4th in Division?

Philly is elite and Washington has JD and money. Giants look much much better. Thoughts?
I never say this, but I think the Giants are actually improving. Their pass rush might do some damage.

There will be no loafing in the East for awhile. I definitely get the feeling other teams are coming up and we are aging and falling behind. Get me a shinny new QB and id probably feel differently.
 
Eh, I think Eagles are still primed to be #1. But always a bit cautious when ranking a team that overachieved a bit in Washington. Will DCs throw a new trick at Daniels? Will he slump or show he's truly a top QB?

NY for now I don't know if I would say are better than Dallas. Sure, Jones is gone but it's not like they replaced him with Burrows. Defensively, sure they are better. But enough to make some noise?
 
Depends on how good that Giants defense actually is, which could be very good if Abdul Carter is as advertised. I still think the the Cowboys have a better chance at 2nd than 4th though. NY still feels a year away to me, and probably in line for another top 10 pick. Should be a tougher game than they have been in recent years though.
 
I would be surprised if the Giants finish ahead of them.

I thought there was a chance DAllas could win 8-9 this year and just miss the playoffs. I know believe this year will be similar to last year....which was brutal. So maybe if the Giants squeek out some weird wins. It would surprise me to see Dallas in 4th though.
 
Meh. I've been a fan for decades. You have good years and bad years. I think its perfectly reasonable to be thinking this isn't going to be one of the good years. I'm a fan so I hope I'm wrong but acknowledging it doesn't make me not a fan.
No it doesn’t.

But posting things like this when there are 100 other threads kind of makes it silly.

I get it. People are down.

But it it’s makes you miserable it’s no longer fun

After every Giants preseason game people panic and say we are the worst in the division
 
Watching some of the Giants preseason game, they do look like a functional football team, far better than us. They have two backup QBs better than Milton for sure.

But we've played so few of our top players on offense, it's hard to tell. Dak had some good passes and CeeDee was pretty unreal in that practice the other day.

At the least they won't be as easy as sweep as they have been. I'd bet they beat us at least once.
 
Depends on the offensive tackles. If Dak has no time to throw, doesn't matter what receivers you have.
Yeah I agree. This is a major issues that has sort of been swept under the rug by many. Especially with Guyton missing basically all of camp I worry that our tackles may keep this offense from fully reaching its ceiling, and may make it tough for Dak to finish 17 games.
 
At the least they won't be as easy as sweep as they have been. I'd bet they beat us at least once.
The NY games are certainly not gimmes anymore. I'm sure we will be favored when we play them, but the strength of that team is their edge players which isnt good for a weakness of ours in our tackle play. That has to give them a punchers chance at us.
 
No it doesn’t.

But posting things like this when there are 100 other threads kind of makes it silly.

I get it. People are down.

But it it’s makes you miserable it’s no longer fun

After every Giants preseason game people panic and say we are the worst in the division
That's fair. If someone is legitimately unhappy because of what is going on with a football team then they should find something else to do with their time.
 
If Parsons is on the team, we're 2nd. We easily beat Washington twice last year with a healthy roster.
 

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