5 must address positions

Killerinstinct

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This is a list of what I believe are the 5 positions that must be addressed in the draft and the top pick slated at each of our first 5 picks Rd 1 through 4 and the 4th round comp.

There are going to be differing opinions on priorities and it is sure to be controversial that I don't have QB listed as one of them but there are 5 positions that I believe are absolute must haves.

1. MLB - Hitchens is not a starting caliber MLB and Mcclain is not likely to be here.
2. DT - For far too long we have trotted out a D-line with a major hole in it.
3. CB - I think this one is obvious.
4. SS - Church and Wilcox are just not getting it done.
5. RB - Mcfadden had a good year but we need another option as he is injury prone.

QB, WR, TE, DE, OT, OG, C are all positions that need help but each can be addressed by either re-signing our own F.A.'s or the usual stop gap rotational type of F.A. signings from other teams. For QB RGIII, Manziel or other F.A. can be signed.

1st rd
MLB Reggie Ragland looks like the only 1st rd MLB in the draft. Jack and Jaylon Smith could be considered but I think putting them at MLB is putting them out of their best position. Pick 4 is too high for Ragland but maybe on a trade back.

DT A'shawn Robinson gets the nod and would make an intriguing pick.

CB - Hargreaves III looks like the cream of the CB crop.

SS - S'ua Cravens looks like a potential SS convert and probably the only one worthy of first rd consideration. Pick 4 is way too high but maybe on a trade back situation.

RB - Ezekiel Elliott looks like the best of the bunch but pick 4 looks too high and again maybe on a trade back.

2nd Rd
MLB- Kentrell Brothers - highly productive player in college and likely a major upgrade over Hitchens. Likely a day one starter. Our 2nd rd pick is probably high for him so maybe on a pullback.

DT - Austin Johnson - There should be a few 2nd rd DT's available but he looks like he will probably be the best left once our 2nd round pick comes around.

CB - Eli Apple - Extremely gifted but incredibly young and possibly not a day 1 starter although on this team I would put him out there. He may even be a 1st rd pick. Probably the best we could hope for at our 2nd rd pick.

SS- Jeremy Cash - As long as his wrist has healed with no problems he would make an excellent pick for us IMO. He needs to gain a little weight but would be a major upgrade at SS.

RB - Derrick Henry - could be pushed into the 1st but the highest candidate that might be there when we pick in the 2nd. I personally am not a big fan but he does offer some size and power that may compliment Mcfaddens style but I believe there are better options.

3rd RD
MLB - Tyler Matekevich is possibly my favorite MLB in this draft. Not a great physical specimen but a natural leader and a guy that flies all over the field making plays. Sometimes it's not all about physical skills but heart and desire instead. I would be thrilled if we drafted this guy.

DT- Sheldon Rankins is a guy that is currently slated as a 3rd round prospect by some draft pundits but he might move up. He is already great against the run and is developing pass rushing skills. He is a high motor guy that doesn't take plays off. If he is still there in the 3rd he deserves consideration. IMO

CB- Artie Burns is a CB that might be available with our 3rd rd pick. He's a track guy that has some skills as a CB. Played a little Safety as well. Needs more development but there is a lot to work with.

SS- Karl Joseph is a SS that might be there in the 3rd. He needs to gain a little weight but he is already very physical and could only be more dangerous with a little weight. He is the type that can cover receivers and blow up RB's. He hits violently enough to create fumbles. One of my favorite prospects in the draft.

RB- Kenneth Dixon is a RB that some are projecting for early 3rd consideration. He may move up a little higher before the draft. Plays hard. Not the most physically gifted RB with not a lot of size or explosiveness but runs well in crowds and does all of the little things as well. Just a good football player.

4th RD
MLB - Dominique Alexander - I think he would be more of a project to develop. IF we want a starting caliber MLB it probably has to happen in the first 3 rds. Some sights list Scooby Wright III in the 4th but I highly doubt he is still available this late. Injury history or not.

DT - Vernon Butler - If Butler is still on the board in the 4th I hope we jump on him. I think he could be a day one starter and to get one of those in the 4th rd is a major coup. Much better than Hayden and plays hard the entire game. Very strong upper body and good balance.

CB- Zach Sanchez is a CB that might still be on the board in the 4th. He makes some big plays and has good instincts but his mechanics need work. Probably a decent prospect to teach and maybe some day become a starter.

SS- Kevin Byard is a SS that will probably be available in the 4th. A little short but an interception machine and good with the ball in his hands after picks. He played against small school competition and we have been down that road before but unlike Wilcox he has played the position for years. If the SS position is not addressed earlier I would be happy to see Byard picked.

RB Paul Perkins is a RB that might still be there with our early 4th rd pick. This is another chance to grab a major contributor in the 4th rd. A guy that can see the field and contribute. He has an explosive burst whcih even some higher rated RB's are lacking. He is a little slight and unable to run through LB's but played very well against top notch competition. A solid 4th rd pick. IMO!

4th Comp
MLB- Cassanova Mckinzy is a LB that could still be on the board this late. Great size and moves well with good range. Sometimes takes bad angles and misses tackles. A decent prospect to work with but probably not a starter anytime soon. Again, an instant contributor at LB probably has to come in the first 3 rounds.

DT - Adam Gotsis could be there in the 4th comp area. From Australia and still learning but very athletic and could make a good prospect to teach up and has enough athleticism that I wouldn't be surprised if he flashes enough to see the field his rookie season.

CB- DJ White is a CB that could conceivably still be on the board here. Smallish frame with good ball skills and a surprisingly good tackler for his size. Has natural coverage and ball skills. A very good candidate to teach up that has enough upside he could end up being a starter down the road.

SS- Miles Killebrew is an interesting prospect that might still be on the board. Big and fast with the ability to not only hit hard but excellent in coverage. 6-3 230 lbs with a 4.45 40. I highly suspect he will be moving up draft boards. The only real knock on him is that he hasn't played against top notch competition but this kid looks like a player. If he go's where currently slated he could be the steal of the draft. Keep this one a secret. LOL! Could develop into a starter as soon as his second year and on this team I could see him getting playing time the first year if no other safety's are taken sooner. I see him moving into the 3rd rd but I hope he is still there in the 4th and the team has him on the radar.

RB - AAron Green is a RB that might still be on the board with our 4th comp pick. Neither blazing fast nor powerful but productive. . Could be a contributor in his first year. I view the RB position as one that can add help to the team this late in the draft and there are several other RB's in this range that would make good candidates to split some time with the current crop of RB's. They most likely wont be instant impact players that other teams have to prepare for but solid contributors that result in your 4th comp not being a wasted pick.


What I see from looking at prospects in the first 4 rounds plus comp area for the 5 positions that I think would make the most immediate impact on the team is that if you want a player that can contribute right away certain positions must be addressed early.

Your MLB better come in the first 3 rounds. SS the same. CB too. You can find a solid contributor at DT in the 4th and the same can be said for RB. With that said, here is my attempt to find 5 contributors with the first 5 picks in the draft.

1. Vernon Hargreaves III CB
2.Jeremy Cash SS
3. Tyler Matekevich MLB
4. Vernon Butler DT
5. AAron Green RB

with the 6th rd comps you can find a speedy WR, and linemen to groom. With F.A. a mobile QB that can pick up first downs with his legs as well as learn from Romo and reach the potential everyone knows is there. What we can't do is walk away from this draft with one or two guys only that see the field.

IMO! What say you?
 

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I think people need to accept that BOTH Church and Wilcox are not going to be cut/benched. 1? Sure, but I'd bet a lot of $ that 1 of those 2 will be our starting SS next year. Not what I want, but I just see it going that way. They'll probably draft a guy at some point for depth, but I'd be surprised if it's before the 4th.

MLB and RB are definite areas of need, but I would consider both of them relatively easy positions to fill compared to others. Wouldn't consider either position in the 1st round. MLB I actually wouldn't hate bringing in a FA vet to solidify the position, haven't looked too far into who's available that route yet though. Matekevich would be an awesome get though OP. That kid eats sleeps and breathes football.,,,,RB I have 5-7 guys I'd like to see us get 1 of with either our 2nd or 3rd. Alex Collins, Ken Dixon, Devontae Booker, Jordan Howard, CJ Prosise, Paul Perkins, and Kenyan Drake. I have varying degrees of interest and they all aren't feature backs, but all are very talented and would bring a different dimension to the backfield. I believe it will McFadden's job to lose next year.

DT- Again, those expecting radical changes are going to be disappointed. It's not just some weird obsession with Hayden, Marinelli just doesn't think he needs much at the position. I'm really hoping we add either a vet or a 3rd/4th round pick but I'm not holding my breath on it. Vernon Butler and Nile Lawrence-Stample are 2 of my favorites to upgrade the position in the middle rounds.

CB- Probably the #1 need. Mo is probably a goner and Carr will at best be asked to take a pay cut, if not he's probbaly a goner too. Scandrick will be nice to have back, but with any knee injury nothing is guaranteed. Unfortunately I don't see a clear cut lock down CB available top 5. Ramsey
is extremely talented but reminds a little too much of Byron Jones, I have questions if either can play CB full time. Hargreaves' size scares me. He looks like he'd measure 5'10 190 lbs to me on tape, he has nice cover skills but his lack of size keeps him from being elite to me. Definitely have to add a CB sometime before the 3rd round though. Need young talent there. But again, this is a position that makes a lot of sense to fill in free agency to avoid rookie growing pains. Of course have to be smart about the contract.

QB- If Goff is there it's a no brainer to me. Have to take him. Lynch...ehh I go back and fourth on him. He's probably my #4 option with the 4th pick as of right now. 1,Goff 2, Bosa 3,trade down and 4 would be Lynch. Hackenberg still on the board at the top of the 2nd would seriously interest me if we don't go QB in 1.

DE- This is a position that is going way overlooked by a lot of people here. Hardy is looking more and more like he'll be gone (not worth the headache). So that leaves us with Lawrence, Gregory and Russell as DE's under contract...yikes. And I wouldn't count on Gregory being anything but a situational rusher. We need A LOT more at this position. Bosa at 4 would almost instantly solve the problem, but not sure he makes it there. Big fan of Shaq Lawson also, but only after a trade down. Thankfully after that I still see a decent amount of guys we could draft that would help right away. Naasib, N Spence, J Bullard, and J Allen could all be there at the top of the 2nd and guys like Tapper, Kaufusi, and Zettle are interesting later.Yet again, it would make sense to bring in a vet to replace Hardy with (no where near the $ tag tho).
 

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I think people need to accept that BOTH Church and Wilcox are not going to be cut/benched. 1? Sure, but I'd bet a lot of $ that 1 of those 2 will be our starting SS next year. Not what I want, but I just see it going that way. They'll probably draft a guy at some point for depth, but I'd be surprised if it's before the 4th.

MLB and RB are definite areas of need, but I would consider both of them relatively easy positions to fill compared to others. Wouldn't consider either position in the 1st round. MLB I actually wouldn't hate bringing in a FA vet to solidify the position, haven't looked too far into who's available that route yet though. Matekevich would be an awesome get though OP. That kid eats sleeps and breathes football.,,,,RB I have 5-7 guys I'd like to see us get 1 of with either our 2nd or 3rd. Alex Collins, Ken Dixon, Devontae Booker, Jordan Howard, CJ Prosise, Paul Perkins, and Kenyan Drake. I have varying degrees of interest and they all aren't feature backs, but all are very talented and would bring a different dimension to the backfield. I believe it will McFadden's job to lose next year.

DT- Again, those expecting radical changes are going to be disappointed. It's not just some weird obsession with Hayden, Marinelli just doesn't think he needs much at the position. I'm really hoping we add either a vet or a 3rd/4th round pick but I'm not holding my breath on it. Vernon Butler and Nile Lawrence-Stample are 2 of my favorites to upgrade the position in the middle rounds.

CB- Probably the #1 need. Mo is probably a goner and Carr will at best be asked to take a pay cut, if not he's probbaly a goner too. Scandrick will be nice to have back, but with any knee injury nothing is guaranteed. Unfortunately I don't see a clear cut lock down CB available top 5. Ramsey
is extremely talented but reminds a little too much of Byron Jones, I have questions if either can play CB full time. Hargreaves' size scares me. He looks like he'd measure 5'10 190 lbs to me on tape, he has nice cover skills but his lack of size keeps him from being elite to me. Definitely have to add a CB sometime before the 3rd round though. Need young talent there. But again, this is a position that makes a lot of sense to fill in free agency to avoid rookie growing pains. Of course have to be smart about the contract.

QB- If Goff is there it's a no brainer to me. Have to take him. Lynch...ehh I go back and fourth on him. He's probably my #4 option with the 4th pick as of right now. 1,Goff 2, Bosa 3,trade down and 4 would be Lynch. Hackenberg still on the board at the top of the 2nd would seriously interest me if we don't go QB in 1.

DE- This is a position that is going way overlooked by a lot of people here. Hardy is looking more and more like he'll be gone (not worth the headache). So that leaves us with Lawrence, Gregory and Russell as DE's under contract...yikes. And I wouldn't count on Gregory being anything but a situational rusher. We need A LOT more at this position. Bosa at 4 would almost instantly solve the problem, but not sure he makes it there. Big fan of Shaq Lawson also, but only after a trade down. Thankfully after that I still see a decent amount of guys we could draft that would help right away. Naasib, N Spence, J Bullard, and J Allen could all be there at the top of the 2nd and guys like Tapper, Kaufusi, and Zettle are interesting later.Yet again, it would make sense to bring in a vet to replace Hardy with (no where near the $ tag tho).


We agree on a lot and disagree on a few. SS-This is the year to get an SS. There are so many good options. With Jones Moving to FS why not overhaul it now and improve the entire secondary. Cutting church would save on salary and Wilcox could be depth/special teams.

QB I personally would pass on both of them at 4 but at least with Goff your getting the best QB in the draft. I would hate to see Lynch picked.

DE I suspect Jack Crawford is re-signed and David Irving should get some reps. I would think one or two rotational types for depth should suffice but I would not be surprised if they do draft one. Mincey could even be brought back. If they take a DE in the 2nd then I think we probably lose our best chance to get a CB in the draft and they are incredibly expensive in F.A.

It will be interesting to see what direction the team go's.
 

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We agree on a lot and disagree on a few. SS-This is the year to get an SS. There are so many good options. With Jones Moving to FS why not overhaul it now and improve the entire secondary. Cutting church would save on salary and Wilcox could be depth/special teams.

QB I personally would pass on both of them at 4 but at least with Goff your getting the best QB in the draft. I would hate to see Lynch picked.

DE I suspect Jack Crawford is re-signed and David Irving should get some reps. I would think one or two rotational types for depth should suffice but I would not be surprised if they do draft one. Mincey could even be brought back. If they take a DE in the 2nd then I think we probably lose our best chance to get a CB in the draft and they are incredibly expensive in F.A.

It will be interesting to see what direction the team go's.

Like I said, not what I want, but just how I see it going. I have many posts on this board ripping the FO for under valuing the S position for years. They failed to adapt to the changes of the NFL in needing more athletic coverage guys deep. Thankfully they addressed FS with Jones(possibly unintentionally), but I highly doubt they go complete over haul on the position. Church seems very well liked within the organization as a professional and they have had a fascination with Wilcox ever since drafting him. Those 2 are most likely going to continue to see playing time, and honestly, while those 2 aren't ideal by any means they also aren't going to be the reason this team wins or loses at the end of the day in my opinion.

Crawford and Irving are nice depth guys with some versatility, but neither should be counted on at DE imo...and with the unlikelihood that Gregory is anywhere near physically ready to play DE full time in the NFL I still see a big hole at DE. Especially when we are talking about a D line that was still near the bottom of the league in getting to the QB, even with Hardy. Myself and others have said it a million times, but it's a point worth repeating over and over. It doesn't matter who is in your secondary if you can't get pressure on the QB.
 

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Lots of great thought and info OP

IMO there is no way you pass up Goff or Lynch if they are there. This solves the future qb and the back up qb problems

Other positions of need IMO are

1-T DT- a difference-maker would have the biggest impact on our defense

Veteran safety next to jones

MLB

Speed WR/KR/ PR- we have ignored this for too long and have had some of the worst starting field positions

RB

There are many other needs (like RT) but these are the top ones
 
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