5 Scouts Break-Down Top 55 Players

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Based on interviews with executives in personnel for five teams, it is possible to narrow down just a little bit the pool of players that might be considered by the Green Bay Packers regardless of position if they exercise their current 30th selection in the first round of the NFL draft April 30.

Prospects are conservatively divided into three categories: As Good As Gone — barring negative developments, these players have virtually no chance of reaching No. 30; Probably Gone — players who appear to have no better than a 50-50 chance of remaining on the board at No. 30; and The Next Level — players who figure to fall next.

The Packers have their own selection in all seven rounds. They're also likely to be awarded at least one compensatory pick next month for the losses of center Evan Dietrich-Smith (Tampa Bay) and wide receiver James Jones (Oakland).

Here's an early look at 55 players who figure to fit into these layers of the draft (underclassmen are denoted by asterisk).

AS GOOD AS GONE (10)
Amari Cooper*, WR, Alabama:
6-1, 211. In 2014, he broke the Southeastern Conference single-season record for receptions (124) and was second all-time in receiving yards (1,727). "Dynamic player," one scout said. "Quick, fast, agile, good hands. Difference-maker." Third-year junior with 228 receptions for 3,463 yards (15.2) and 31 TDs. "One of the better route runners to come out in a long, long time," another scout said. "Very skilled, explosive and fast." On Saturday, he ran 40 yards in 4.42 seconds.

Kevin White, WR, West Virginia: 6-3, 215. Junior-college player for two years. "He's more of a Larry Fitzgerald-type receiver in that he doesn't have great speed," said one scout. "I never see him beat people deep. But if he is even with them he's going to get the ball. Very good player." Caught 35 passes in 2013 for Mountaineers before breaking out with 109 for 1,447 yards (13.3) and 10 TDs in '14. "He's got another level to his game that I don't think we've seen yet," another scout said. Admits that he loves trash-talking opponents. Made a ton of money with 40 time of 4.35.

Brandon Scherff, T, Iowa: 6-4 1/2, 319. Part-time starter at LG as a redshirt freshman in 2011 before starting at LT from 2012-'14. "I like (Bryan) Bulaga, but I think this guy is better," said one scout. "I didn't think Bulaga could play left tackle, but I think this guy can. Everybody thinks he's the best guard, but I'd keep him at tackle and have him disprove he can't play there. He got hurt early last year and never missed a practice or a game." Like Bulaga, his arm length (33 3/8 inches) will be an issue for some teams. Massive hands (11 inches). "Real tough guy and can really run," another scout said. "Good technician. Little stiff. Kind of straight-line. Not real good change of direction. But when he gets you he mauls you. This guy is a lot stronger than Bulaga. He's tight and can't use his length. I think guard will be his best position." His 40-yard dash time was 5.05.



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this is excellent. McGinn is great, glad he is still doing his hing since Goose and other shave fallen off to nonsense and drivel.

can't imagine how many additional page views they get for this seasonal stuff.
 

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Sammy Coates won't get drafted in the 1st two rounds is my prediction.

Stone hands and poor route runner. Way over valued.
 

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Sammy Coates won't get drafted in the 1st two rounds is my prediction.

Stone hands and poor route runner. Way over valued.

I agree. I was expecting him to run about like Kevin White did. There is a big big difference between 4.35 and 4.43. I consider him to be a 3rd round player now.
 

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Strength of the draft i sOL and WR.

For me, this draft is all about DL and WR. I personally think there are only two OL worthy of the 1st round--Scherff and La'El Collins.

I know a lot of people on this board are really high on Flowers, but I don't see him having the feet to be a good pass blocker. Same thing with Peat. Clemmings has talent, but has so many technical deficiencies, it could take two years for him to be a reliable contributor.

I can see why people compare Flowers with Eric Williams given how powerful both are, but IMO, Flowers doesn't have the feet Williams had--at least before Williams wrecked his car. Flowers has the feet Williams had post-accident.
 

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Liking Goldman a lot. As well as la'el Collins.
 

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Always love these reads this guy puts together.

It is also fun to read how scouts will say opposite things about a player in this things.
For one player one scout will say...has all the instincts while another scout says the same player has no instincts lol.
 

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I can never tell if scouts are just stupid...or if they dont know how to write.

Kevin White, WR, West Virginia:"... he doesn't have great speed," said one scout... with 40 time of 4.35.

Earth to scouts....4.35 is great speed.
 

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I like Arik Armstead more and more as I read about him. Same with Vic Beasley.

Not sure if either one is really a fit, but I like both of those guys.
 

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I can never tell if scouts are just stupid...or if they dont know how to write.

Kevin White, WR, West Virginia:"... he doesn't have great speed," said one scout... with 40 time of 4.35.

Earth to scouts....4.35 is great speed.

Some scouts have said he would not get separation...and in some cases that was true even though he would get in front and jump up and fight for the ball. I will say though the 4.35 speed surprised me. I watched every game this year and saw him getting in front of many defenders but it did not look like he had 4.35 speed...if anything I thought the other starting WR, Mario Alfred, was the faster of the two.
 

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Some scouts have said he would not get separation...and in some cases that was true even though he would get in front and jump up and fight for the ball. I will say though the 4.35 speed surprised me. I watched every game this year and saw him getting in front of many defenders but it did not look like he had 4.35 speed...if anything I thought the other starting WR, Mario Alfred, was the faster of the two.

separation is one thing...and that would make sense...but to call a 4.35 runner slow is hilarious.
 

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separation is one thing...and that would make sense...but to call a 4.35 runner slow is hilarious.

Yes it is not slow...but it is much faster than most people thought.

I thought maybe it was just me but I looked in on the wvu message board and My thoughts were pretty much common among WVU fans. Everyone thought that the other WR, Mario Alford, was the one who would be the fastest between the two. However to be fair, sometimes taller WRs tend to look slower with longer strides than the smaller WRs so maybe that was what it was.

Either way, I love how Kevin White plays...he plays hard each play and fights for the ball. Amari has the edge when it comes to route running...I take white for everything else.
 

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I can never tell if scouts are just stupid...or if they dont know how to write.

Kevin White, WR, West Virginia:"... he doesn't have great speed," said one scout... with 40 time of 4.35.

Earth to scouts....4.35 is great speed.

Keep in mind that these are comments that a reporter or reporters recorded from multiple scouts and the reporter generally added the times. Some of the comments were probably before the times had been recorded.

I do agree that some of the things they say sound stupid.
 
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