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and we still only put up 27. The titans have 321 yards and put up 34. When are we going to realize turnovers and penalties cannot be overcome, no matter how well you can move the ball? We averaged 6.1 yards per rush, with NO negative runs.

We punted the ball only twice, forced 5 punts, and still lost.

12 penalties for 133 yards.

How can you not make a coaching change when this is the same crap the team goes through every single week? It starts at the top. This team is not afraid of wade phillips and will continue to play like this as long as there are no consequences. I was thrilled when i saw davis benched yesterday. But columbo should have been benched as well.

But wade is the head coach because of his defensive mind. Well the defense is playing like crap and has the same problem every year of not being able to force turnovers. Now they make cutler and vince young look like all pro quarterbacks. The way this defense came out, after a bye, and stunk it up from the get go, how can you not blame the gameplan?

This team is just so frustrating. Its let down after let down. Bottom line is they are going nowhere this year with wade phillips at the helm. I'll never understand why cletis gordon was cut either. He was a turnover machine in training camp, yet he was cut and we kept only 3 true corners. The reason we kept so many safeties was for special teams. Well, our special teams has sucked so far. It seems like you would want someone who can force turnovers like gordon on the team. But thats just me
 
It seems like every team we play becomes All-Pros. I'm astonished at how we allowed Vince Young to put up 35 points.
 
The fact that we didn't really run Barber in the red zone is mind boggling.
 
tomsanders921;3610972 said:
and we still only put up 27. The titans have 321 yards and put up 34. When are we going to realize turnovers and penalties cannot be overcome, no matter how well you can move the ball? We averaged 6.1 yards per rush, with NO negative runs.

We punted the ball only twice, forced 5 punts, and still lost.

12 penalties for 133 yards.

How can you not make a coaching change when this is the same crap the team goes through every single week? It starts at the top. This team is not afraid of wade phillips and will continue to play like this as long as there are no consequences. I was thrilled when i saw davis benched yesterday. But columbo should have been benched as well.

But wade is the head coach because of his defensive mind. Well the defense is playing like crap and has the same problem every year of not being able to force turnovers. Now they make cutler and vince young look like all pro quarterbacks. The way this defense came out, after a bye, and stunk it up from the get go, how can you not blame the gameplan?

This team is just so frustrating. Its let down after let down. Bottom line is they are going nowhere this year with wade phillips at the helm. I'll never understand why cletis gordon was cut either. He was a turnover machine in training camp, yet he was cut and we kept only 3 true corners. The reason we kept so many safeties was for special teams. Well, our special teams has sucked so far. It seems like you would want someone who can force turnovers like gordon on the team. But thats just me

Very well said. My sentiments exactly.
 
Which speaks to the fact that maybe Garrett isn't as bad as people think. An offense that puts up those kind of numbers is obviously able to move the ball. If not for penalties, we win...no question about it.

I was impressed with our offense and play-calling yesterday. There's no way we shouldn't win with those kind of numbers.
 
First this team always has a long field to drive due to lack of turnovers. Norm had a stat two weeks ago about how all our drives start within the 25 yard line. Second, we continue make mistakes that makes our drives even longer. It is amazing how spoiled I have become expecting Romo to consistenly make 2nd and 20's happen. That is not the formula for winning football.
 
chicago JK;3611100 said:
First this team always has a long field to drive due to lack of turnovers. Norm had a stat two weeks ago about how all our drives start within the 25 yard line. Second, we continue make mistakes that makes our drives even longer. It is amazing how spoiled I have become expecting Romo to consistenly make 2nd and 20's happen. That is not the formula for winning football.

And you don't see teams with good coaching continuously commit those penalties over and over. If a player continues to make mistakes, put them on the bench. Can't express how happy i was that davis got benched yesterday. First time i have seen something like that from this coaching staff. How columbo continues to get a pass though is beyond me. He is dreadful. Only problem is alex barron is every bit as bad. But there has to be a better option somehow though
 
I think the Cowboy organization should petition the league to do away with scoring and have games decided on total yardage stats. We'd be 4-0. Woo Hoo!!!!!!
 
Coaching is all important, but the players have to lay the blame on themselves. Until every player looks at himself and vows to stop doing dumb stuff, it doesn't matter who the coach is. They did this same crap under Parcells. It's the players. I don't agree with some of the playcalling and some of the decisions made by the coaches, but the players must execute. The Cowboys don't realize they're in a game until they're behind. At that point, mistake-free execution is necessary. Well, you know the rest...
 
Boyzmamacita;3611158 said:
Coaching is all important, but the players have to lay the blame on themselves. Until every player looks at himself and vows to stop doing dumb stuff, it doesn't matter who the coach is. They did this same crap under Parcells. It's the players. I don't agree with some of the playcalling and some of the decisions made by the coaches, but the players must execute. The Cowboys don't realize they're in a game until they're behind. At that point, mistake-free execution is necessary. Well, you know the rest...

Until there are consequences for their stupid play, it will continue. That's where the problem with Wade lies.
 
Star4Ever;3611164 said:
Until there are consequences for their stupid play, it will continue. That's where the problem with Wade lies.

Losing should be consequence enough. If these players truly cared about winning they would stop with the stupid penalties.

The play calling and defensive game plan at times have been bad as well. So both the coaches and players are to blame for this start. Simply changing the coaching staff will not make these players stop committing the penalties.

I don't know what to do anymore. Nothing seems to change this teams approach unless they are completely written off. They need to approach every game with that same sense of urgency and not wait until its too late to start playing hard
 
Star4Ever;3611164 said:
Until there are consequences for their stupid play, it will continue. That's where the problem with Wade lies.

There were consequences under Parcells. Still the same problems persisted then as they do now.

Idk, maybe our roster has enough vets to where they can now take on the personality of a hard-nosed coach.
 
Giving up 511 yards, 6.8 yards per play sucks, still winning the game, priceless.

Brought to you by the Tenn. Titans.
 
tomsanders921;3610972 said:
and we still only put up 27. The titans have 321 yards and put up 34.

They started two possessions inside our 5-yard line, you know. And Jenkins' pass interference penalties moved them another 48 yards down the field.

If we had been able to start two possessions inside the Titans' 5 instead of starting all of them inside our own 40 and most of them inside our own 30, I'm sure we would have scored a lot more points (and would have gotten fewer yards because those possessions would have been very short).

The problem is, we almost never put our offense in a good starting field position because we don't get turnovers.
 
AdamJT13;3611792 said:
They started two possessions inside our 5-yard line, you know. And Jenkins' pass interference penalties moved them another 48 yards down the field.

If we had been able to start two possessions inside the Titans' 5 instead of starting all of them inside our own 40 and most of them inside our own 30, I'm sure we would have scored a lot more points (and would have gotten fewer yards because those possessions would have been very short).

The problem is, we almost never put our offense in a good starting field position because we don't get turnovers.

Wrong, we wouldn't have scored cause Buehler would have shanked it! :laugh2:
 
Sobering/Frustrating numbers:

Over the course of 3 games:

Team A:

1,301 Yds
72 First Downs
104:27 Time of Possession
18/40 (45%) 3rd Down Conversion

Team B:

879 Yds
48 First Downs
75:33 T.O.P
8/36 (22%) 3rd Down Conv.


That breaks down to an average of:

434 to 293 yds per game (Difference of 141)
24 to 16 first downs per game (Difference of 8)
34:49 to 25:11 T.O.P. per game (Difference of 9:38)
3rd Down Conversion is 23% Difference.

Team A is Dallas and Team B is their opponents from the 3 games Dallas has lost.
 
tomsanders921;3611208 said:
Losing should be consequence enough. If these players truly cared about winning they would stop with the stupid penalties.

The play calling and defensive game plan at times have been bad as well. So both the coaches and players are to blame for this start. Simply changing the coaching staff will not make these players stop committing the penalties.

I don't know what to do anymore. Nothing seems to change this teams approach unless they are completely written off. They need to approach every game with that same sense of urgency and not wait until its too late to start playing hard
Guess the players only meeting wasn't a lasting reminder to these players to man up and play football without errors.
 
ChldsPlay;3611801 said:
Sobering/Frustrating numbers:

Over the course of 3 games:

Team A:

1,301 Yds
72 First Downs
104:27 Time of Possession
18/40 (45%) 3rd Down Conversion

Team B:

879 Yds
48 First Downs
75:33 T.O.P
8/36 (22%) 3rd Down Conv.


That breaks down to an average of:

434 to 293 yds per game (Difference of 141)
24 to 16 first downs per game (Difference of 8)
34:49 to 25:11 T.O.P. per game (Difference of 9:38)
3rd Down Conversion is 23% Difference.

Team A is Dallas and Team B is their opponents from the 3 games Dallas has lost.

Turnovers and penalties, especially untimely penalties. We're minus-7 in the turnover battle in those games (seven to zero, actually), and we've committed 30 penalties to our opponents' 11, for 274 yards to our opponents' 92 yards. Penalties might not have a high correlation to winning, but I'd bet having three times as many penalties for three times as many yards probably does.

When you lose the turnover battle by exactly three, you have an 11.6-percent chance of winning the game, and we've done that twice already this season. In franchise history, we've lost the the turnover battle by three in 61 games, and we've won only six of them -- and we've lost the past 23. The last time we won a game with a minus-3 turnover ratio was in 1991, when we beat Atlanta 31-27.
 
ChldsPlay;3611801 said:
Team A is Dallas and Team B is their opponents from the 3 games Dallas has lost.
You didn't have to tell us this part. It's as clear as day.
 

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