7 reasons Garrett is entering a best case scenario

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JG is stepping into a win/win situation, IMO.


1. No one will be expecting immediate or incredible results from him. There will be plenty who will say he was taking over a bad football team, midseason, built by someone else. No one will hold this year against him so he's essentially getting a practice run before his first year.
2. It's not like he's taking over a bunch of losers that need an entire overhaul. This team has been playing way below it's ability and alot of talent is there. This team could go from laughing stock to dominant with just the right simple focus.
3. He's already familiar with the setting, the players/staff and what hasn't worked. He's not being brought into a new environment like many first timers.
4. Jerry wants him succeed. Jerry's own reputation is on the line for paying JG the big bucks as a coordinator. He'll give JG every opportunity (and then some) to prove him right and save his own face.
5. The current environment demands a renewed approach and attention to detail. He may have been a little more relaxed/complacent if he took over an average/above average team (as was planned previously). But the current situation has likely lit that extra fire beneath him and strengthened his (and everyone in the organization's) resolve.
6. The team is likely upset about the situation and losing Wade. I don't think the team dislikes their previous head coach, unlike many teams who find themself in this position. Therefor, they'll want to succeed for Wade, as well as for the present. And as soon as possible.
7. No starting QB. Romo's absence is the ultimate excuse for underachieving. No one would expect a coach to succeed until he has his primary field general in action.

This season is a wash. For us. And for Jason Garrett. He will be the head coach next year and that's when his real clock will begin.
 
The more I listen to JJ's interview regarding JG, etc. the more I think Garrett will be the HC of the Cowboys on a permanent basis.

Honestly, I'm not expecting much from the team this year other than fighting and competing every game.

I just hope Garrett can get the coaching staff he needs to be successful next year. Not that they won't work for him, but rather that the guys Garrett wants are available.
 
It depends on ratings and how the house is filled the rest of the year and especially how the players compete. If we're playing to win then I'd say the chance is at least 50/50. Jerry may be forced to bring in a big gun though despite how the team responds.
 
I think Jerry Jones genuinely cares about winning as much if not more than the Cowboys business/brand. He was legitimately distraught about being 1-7 and being embarrassed on Sunday night. You can say a lot of things about Jerry, but you can't say he doesn't care about his team.

Anyway, what I was getting at was that JG will have to prove he gives the team the best chance to win. I think he doesn't just have to show minor improvements over Wade Phillips, he has to win like the team was expected to if he expects to stay the head coach.

It's not a horrible situation for him, though. If he succeeds and stays the HC, then he's got his dream job. If not, I don't think it necessarily hurts his chances of being the HC somewhere else.
 
I agree with this post. I was saying the same thing. The team is playing poorly but we thought at the beginning of the year we would win most of the last 8 games. He could get them to just be competitve and look like a great HC
 
Spectre;3693728 said:
JG is stepping into a win/win situation, IMO.


1. No one will be expecting immediate or incredible results from him. There will be plenty who will say he was taking over a bad football team, midseason, built by someone else. No one will hold this year against him so he's essentially getting a practice run before his first year.
2. It's not like he's taking over a bunch of losers that need an entire overhaul. This team has been playing way below it's ability and alot of talent is there. This team could go from laughing stock to dominant with just the right simple focus.
3. He's already familiar with the setting, the players/staff and what hasn't worked. He's not being brought into a new environment like many first timers.
4. Jerry wants him succeed. Jerry's own reputation is on the line for paying JG the big bucks as a coordinator. He'll give JG every opportunity (and then some) to prove him right and save his own face.
5. The current environment demands a renewed approach and attention to detail. He may have been a little more relaxed/complacent if he took over an average/above average team (as was planned previously). But the current situation has likely lit that extra fire beneath him and strengthened his (and everyone in the organization's) resolve.
6. The team is likely upset about the situation and losing Wade. I don't think the team dislikes their previous head coach, unlike many teams who find themself in this position. Therefor, they'll want to succeed for Wade, as well as for the present. And as soon as possible.
7. No starting QB. Romo's absence is the ultimate excuse for underachieving. No one would expect a coach to succeed until he has his primary field general in action.

This season is a wash. For us. And for Jason Garrett. He will be the head coach next year and that's when his real clock will begin.

It occurs to me that optimism always brandishes itself in the bright nave of morning sunlight after the storm.
We are better off and survived and will do great.
Upon the blather of Jerra and the media and the fans there are the underlying messages of renewal. But there will be none. Not this year.

JGarrett is entering into a worst-case scenario.
He is trying to win on the road, against a rejuvenated Giants team, with a subpar INT-prone QB and a running game that has not worked.

Think about it. On the road. Giants. The Cowboys with malfunctioning components that may or may not suddenly mesh within a week's time.

The big puzzle is why Garrett would allow to be placed in an untenable position such as this.
And the answer, citizens of the world, is that Garrett had no other choice.
He is a good employee and he takes the challenge. He will try to succeed. If not he will coach in Buffalo or Cleveland or Carolina or Jacksonville. Simple as dat.

Yes, Garrett hears and reads the names: Billick, Dungy, Gruden, Rivera, Fox, Cowher.
And now this son of Princeton goes on a recital with a bad-news QB and a shaken team.

Nay! No, I say. I say this is a bad scenario, overall, for Garrett. These same talented players wont change their culture or outlook in a week.

Jerra, boy of the red dirt region north of godd's Country, give unto thou own fans the promise that Garrett will be given a decent chance at this long recital/audition.

When Icarus flew too close to the moon and got a sunburn, that was a message. Too, we fans need to adjust to Garrett and he needs 2 years at least to prove himself.

Jerra, you threw Garrett into the fire, give him an assist with your generous hand of friendship and support.
 
Woods;3693747 said:
The more I listen to JJ's interview regarding JG, etc. the more I think Garrett will be the HC of the Cowboys on a permanent basis.

Honestly, I'm not expecting much from the team this year other than fighting and competing every game.

I just hope Garrett can get the coaching staff he needs to be successful next year. Not that they won't work for him, but rather that the guys Garrett wants are available.


Not only that, but Garrett will have a lot of influence in who we draft next year to help complete his offense.

Bottom-line, just like when Jerry passed on Moss in the '98 draft, and when Jerry let Sean Payton go, who has won it all in N.O., Jerry drafts Dez Bryant (our own non-psychotic version of Moss) and replaces Wade mid-season with Jason Garrett who many in the NFL ranks are high on, much like they were with Payton.

Let's see what we get the second half of this season.
 
I hope Garrett hits it out of the park and leaves no doubt. I think it would be a huge mistake if for some reason Jerry is not 100% convinced and let's him go due to fan pressure or selling seats.
 
I like the idea of JG just dont think he has the experience, and I guess this pitiful year will help him
 
tecolote;3693940 said:
I hope Garrett hits it out of the park and leaves no doubt. I think it would be a huge mistake if for some reason Jerry is not 100% convinced and let's him go due to fan pressure or selling seats.


Jerry paid Garrett to stay to be eventual HC.

If he makes the decision to let him go after 8 games then its just another mistake by Jerry. Add it to his top 10 list.

Not signing Garrett to long term HC deal would be irresponsible.
 
Another reason to keep Garrett for a look-see: Jeff Fischer supposedly comes available after next season.

Next season is going to be pretty unsettled, no matter what. Garrett's probably the best guy, considering...
 
YoMick;3693997 said:
Jerry paid Garrett to stay to be eventual HC.

If he makes the decision to let him go after 8 games then its just another mistake by Jerry. Add it to his top 10 list.

Not signing Garrett to long term HC deal would be irresponsible.

Which means, more than everything else involved, Jason WILL be the headcoach for several years. I hope Garrett kicks some serious *** so we're not stuck with yet another 'Top 10".


BTW - Garrett won't have had a fair shake if he's let go after this season, IMO.
 
It's true. It doesn't matter what happens this season. For the reasons I cited above, JG will be our head coach next year NO MATTER WHAT. And that's fine with me considering his unknown ability versus the alternatives.
 
Spectre;3694114 said:
It's true. It doesn't matter what happens this season. For the reasons I cited above, JG will be our head coach next year NO MATTER WHAT. And that's fine with me considering his unknown ability versus the alternatives.
A lot of people do not like reading logical reasoning. You're absolutely right on almost every point.

I will say this though, I expect some results too. Not 8-0 or even 7-1, but this team will play harder and smarter and win some games now. With Romo gone, it is not enough.
 
The ONLY thing that I would caution people on is this....

JJ stressed thge word "Interim" during the PC...we all heard it...if you didn't, go back and listen to it.

JJ came out earlier and said that a couple of SB winning coaches showed interest in it.

JJ mentioned fans showing up for games during the PC.

JJ is a businessman.....bottom line. Would I like any other owner? I don't think so. Bash me if you will, but I think he wants to win more than most any other owner.

So, taking those things into account....would it surprise anyone if he believes that he has just as good a shot at having a coach who is #1, a bigger name than JG...#2, provides the same chance in winning than JG?

Is this a post, saying that JG shouldn't be the HC next year? Nope. Just saying that JJ is a businessman and you should NEVER put anything past that.

It wouldn't surprise me one way or the other...what WOULD surprise me is if JG won 5 or so games in this span and didn't get the HC gig for the next 3-4 years.

Don't forget, most people have no idea who JG is....everybody knows who Gruden, Cowher, etc. is. He knows this...he's not stupid.

He brought BP in here to build a stadium....he wanted butts in the seats.

WE know who JG is....and if JG wins this year so will everybody else. THAT is JG's best chance to hold onto the HC job right now.
 
Hostile;3694117 said:
A lot of people do not like reading logical reasoning. You're absolutely right on almost every point.

I will say this though, I expect some results too. Not 8-0 or even 7-1, but this team will play harder and smarter and win some games now. With Romo gone, it is not enough.
I think you're right. I mean, this team has to improve, right?
I think the Giants may be the first unsuspecting bully who's about to meet the picked-on kid that's reach his limit. ALL the pressure is on them at this point.
 
Jimz31;3694141 said:
The ONLY thing that I would caution people on is this....

JJ stressed thge word "Interim" during the PC...we all heard it...if you didn't, go back and listen to it.

JJ came out earlier and said that a couple of SB winning coaches showed interest in it.

JJ mentioned fans showing up for games during the PC.

JJ is a businessman.....bottom line. Would I like any other owner? I don't think so. Bash me if you will, but I think he wants to win more than most any other owner.

So, taking those things into account....would it surprise anyone if he believes that he has just as good a shot at having a coach who is #1, a bigger name than JG...#2, provides the same chance in winning than JG?

Is this a post, saying that JG shouldn't be the HC next year? Nope. Just saying that JJ is a businessman and you should NEVER put anything past that.

It wouldn't surprise me one way or the other...what WOULD surprise me is if JG won 5 or so games in this span and didn't get the HC gig for the next 3-4 years.

Don't forget, most people have no idea who JG is....everybody knows who Gruden, Cowher, etc. is. He knows this...he's not stupid.

He brought BP in here to build a stadium....he wanted butts in the seats.

WE know who JG is....and if JG wins this year so will everybody else. THAT is JG's best chance to hold onto the HC job right now.
True. Winning sells. JJ will do whatever he feels is necessary to win. For that reason, I think he's rides with Garrett as he believes in him as much, if not more, than some other big-name coach whom he is unfamiliar with. He also knows that those coaches will demand a premium in salary and come with no guarantee- as he's been down that road before. And Garretts successes are JJ's successes all the more as Jerry has more vested interest in him.

Get used to "Red". He's gonna be around a minute.
 
Seven;3694061 said:
Which means, more than everything else involved, Jason WILL be the headcoach for several years. I hope Garrett kicks some serious *** so we're not stuck with yet another 'Top 10".


BTW - Garrett won't have had a fair shake if he's let go after this season, IMO.


Absolutely agree.
 

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