9 key guys with 9 or more years of experience

[ravidubey]

We've got 9 key guys with 9 or more years of experience this year. All starting at critical positions (alright, I added Coleman as ten since he's the starting FS).

Starting QB: Drew Bledsoe - 13
Starting $.05 CB: Aaron Glenn - 12
Starting FS: Marcus Coleman -11
Starting WR: Terry Glenn - 10
Starting WR: Terrell Owens - 10
Starting RG: Marco Rivera - 10
Starting ROT: Jason Fabini - 9
Starting NT: Jason Ferguson - 9
Starting SOLB: Al Singleton - 9
Starting K: Mike Vanderjagt - 9

What's the plan for phasing these guys out. It has to be at least partially addressed with this draft, but we're talking maybe three off seasons counting this one. When does which player get replaced?

 

[theebs]

We've got 9 key guys with 9 or more years of experience this year. All starting at critical positions (alright, I added Coleman as ten since he's the starting FS).

Starting QB: Drew Bledsoe - 13
Starting $.05 CB: Aaron Glenn - 12
Starting FS: Marcus Coleman -11
Starting WR: Terry Glenn - 10
Starting WR: Terrell Owens - 10
Starting RG: Marco Rivera - 10
Starting ROT: Jason Fabini - 9
Starting NT: Jason Ferguson - 9
Starting SOLB: Al Singleton - 9
Starting K: Mike Vanderjagt - 9

What's the plan for phasing these guys out. It has to be at least partially addressed with this draft, but we're talking maybe three off seasons counting this one. When does which player get replaced?

To be fair, Vanderjagt is a kicker and they can play well into their 40s.

Singleton will most likely be a backup, coleman most likely will be bit player, nickel safety and offensive lineman can play well into their 30s.

qb and wr though could be an issue.

 

[Alexander]

We've got 9 key guys with 9 or more years of experience this year. All starting at critical positions (alright, I added Coleman as ten since he's the starting FS).

Starting QB: Drew Bledsoe - 13
Starting $.05 CB: Aaron Glenn - 12
Starting FS: Marcus Coleman -11
Starting WR: Terry Glenn - 10
Starting WR: Terrell Owens - 10
Starting RG: Marco Rivera - 10
Starting ROT: Jason Fabini - 9
Starting NT: Jason Ferguson - 9
Starting SOLB: Al Singleton - 9
Starting K: Mike Vanderjagt - 9

What's the plan for phasing these guys out. It has to be at least partially addressed with this draft, but we're talking maybe three off seasons counting this one. When does which player get replaced?

Not too worried about Bledsoe. We have several young ones behind him.
A. Glenn: We might get a corner if we decide to move Reeves.
T. Glenn: Not this year. No value at the position. We might take a WR late, at least one who could threaten Crayton for the return job.
Rivera: I would be amazed if we don't address our guard depth early.
Fabini: Willing to bet that we are okay with Petitti and Columbo in reserve. I don't agree with that, but whatever. Besides, any guard we get should have some tackle experience (Colledge, Joseph, Spencer) and help us out.
Ferguson: We can get any fat fellow late or after the draft. It certainly isn't crucial we dig one up early.
Singleton: I would guess we get his replacement very early.
Vanderjagt: Kickers don't age.

 

[MrPhil]

Starting QB: Drew Bledsoe - 13

I am somewhat concerned about QB. Bledsoe is as tough as they come but, he ain't gettin any younger. I am hopeful that either Romo or Henson will prove to be the heir apparent at QB. I am also not nutty enough to put all my eggs in either the Romo or Henson basket. I think it is time to get another young QB in here via the draft. Maybe not this year but, definitely next year. You've got to hedge your bets at this position IMO.

My guess: 2007 Draft

Starting $.05 CB: Aaron Glenn - 12

Not really concerned about CB to be honest. Love Henry and Newman as the starters and we have Reeves as a young up and comer. Will eventually need to bring in someone else but, I don't see it as a high priority right now. Maybe next year.

My guess: late rounder in 2006, mid-rounder in 2007

Starting FS: Marcus Coleman -11

Even with Davis, Coleman and potentially Barry-O at FS, I still don't have the warm and fuzzies here. Would love to get a young guy like Pat Watkins or Ko Simpson in here.

My guess: Early to mid-round pick in 2006

Starting WR: Terry Glenn - 10
Starting WR: Terrell Owens - 10

WR is one of my biggest concerns, not for the present but, for the near future. WRs take time to develop and IMO, we are playing with fire depending on two guys like Glenn and Owens without a couple of young guys with potential waiting in the wings. I love Crayton's potential but, we need another young guy back there with him. I am hoping we spend a mid round pick on one this year and a HIGH pick on one next year.

My guess: Mid-round pick in 2006 and High pick in 2007

Starting RG: Marco Rivera - 10
Starting ROT: Jason Fabini - 9

I put OL in the same category as WR as far as need. We may be ok for the immediate future but, we need to bring some more young guys in here to prepare for the future. I hope Kosier can nail down one OG spot for years but, I don't know anything about him. Our two OT are 30+ and coming off season ending injuries. I am optimistic about Pettiti but, we still need one more young guy.

My guess: Mid-round picks in 2006 and 2007

Starting NT: Jason Ferguson - 9

NT is a moderate concern of mine. Think we will be ok with what we have. Would like to see a late round BIG body drafted cause depending on Fergy is kind of a scary prospect and Pepper is not yet proven.

My guess: Late rounder in 2006 and mid-rounder in 2007

Starting SOLB: Al Singleton - 9

Assume this will be addressed with a HIGH draft pick this year. Once that happens, I think we are set at OLB this year.

My guess: Early pick in 2006

Starting K: Mike Vanderjagt - 9

Not especially concerned about K since they can kick well into they 30's. It might be a good idea, as has been suggested, to bring in a young guy with a strong leg for kickoffs that could take over for our "idiot kicker" after he retires.

My guess: Late rounder or FA in 2006 or 2007.

 

[Alexander]

I put OL in the same category as WR as far as need. We may be ok for the immediate future but, we need to bring some more young guys in here to prepare for the future. I hope Kosier can nail down one OG spot for years but, I don't know anything about him. Our two OT are 30+ and coming off season ending injuries. I am optimistic about Pettiti but, we still need one more young guy.

I think OL and WR are close as you stated, but there is a difference. OL take more time to develop and it is difficult to simply draft one and have them perform well right away.

At most, we have two or three years left of time with both Rivera and Adams. That's two starters needed for 2007/2008 and that's assuming Kosier is the real deal and that either Petitti or Columbo can take over in a year or two from Fabini, which is debateable at best. Having two picks practically bust from 2004 has really set us back a little. It was an issue then and it is still an issue.

That's some serious guesswork. WR is way down on my list in comparsion because you can get a rookie to perform well quickly and don't need years of refinement.

 

[chinch]

We've got 9 key guys with 9 or more years of experience this year. All starting at critical positions (alright, I added Coleman as ten since he's the starting FS).

Starting QB: Drew Bledsoe - 13
Starting $.05 CB: Aaron Glenn - 12
Starting FS: Marcus Coleman -11
Starting WR: Terry Glenn - 10
Starting WR: Terrell Owens - 10
Starting RG: Marco Rivera - 10
Starting ROT: Jason Fabini - 9
Starting NT: Jason Ferguson - 9
Starting SOLB: Al Singleton - 9
Starting K: Mike Vanderjagt - 9

What's the plan for phasing these guys out. It has to be at least partially addressed with this draft, but we're talking maybe three off seasons counting this one. When does which player get replaced?

wow this takes the cake

only yankee and cowboy fans worry about "phasing out" guys we just signed for big contracts (who are performing GREAT nevertheless).

yah... lets worry about replacing TO and Vanderjagt.

ugh.

 

[Alexander]

wow this takes the cake

only yankee and cowboy fans worry about "phasing out" guys we just signed for big contracts (who are performing GREAT nevertheless).

yah... lets worry about replacing TO and Vanderjagt.

ugh.

But they are both OLD! DON'T YOU GET IT????

OLD, HE'S SAYING!!!

 

[MrPhil]

I think OL and WR are close as you stated, but there is a difference. OL take more time to develop and it is difficult to simply draft one and have them perform well right away.

At most, we have two or three years left of time with both Rivera and Adams. That's two starters needed for 2007/2008 and that's assuming Kosier is the real deal and that either Petitti or Columbo can take over in a year or two from Fabini, which is debateable at best. Having two picks practically bust from 2004 has really set us back a little. It was an issue then and it is still an issue.

That's some serious guesswork. WR is way down on my list in comparsion because you can get a rookie to perform well quickly and don't need years of refinement.

You may be right about OL taking longer to develop than WR but, I tend to believe that they both take a little while to "master" if you will and that we need to start planning ahead.

IMO the OL, in general, is more important to a team than WR however, I think we are slightly closer to needed to new WRs.

Either way, I think we need to start drafting some replacements for both OL and WR THIS year.........AND next year.

 

[Falcon]

The one thing I noticed is that we did not draft any of those guys. Point to absolutely dismall drafting over most of the last 10 years.

 

[ravidubey]

The one thing I noticed is that we did not draft any of those guys. Point to absolutely dismall drafting over most of the last 10 years.

Ditto and bang on. Go Ireland !

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

I don't think the Cowboys have anyone ready to go behind any of those vets. Patrick Crayton is about as close as we have to a young player who showed some type of success at those positions. Singleton could easily be replaced with the right 1st round draft pick this year.

I also wouldn't consider Coleman the starter. I still think Davis wins the job.

 

[theogt]

Singleton and Coleman won't be starting by week 3 hopefully. Vanderjagt doesn't count. Nickle CB isn't really counted as a starter (or at least as a "key guy"). Therefore we have 5 key starters is 9+ years under their belts. Yeah, looks like we're an old team.

 

[Idgit]

I don't think the Cowboys have anyone ready to go behind any of those vets. Patrick Crayton is about as close as we have to a young player who showed some type of success at those positions. Singleton could easily be replaced with the right 1st round draft pick this year.

I also wouldn't consider Coleman the starter. I still think Davis wins the job.

Bah. We can agree to disagree about the potential of our backup QBs, but, come on. We've got K Davis at FS, JReeves at CB, Petitti at RT, *maybe* Peterson at one G position, T Johnson at NT, and Burnett at OLB. If you don't develop young players who have shown flashes into starters at some positions, you don't deserve to be successful.

Considering we can count on signing 3-5 FAs/season to fill holes that present themselves, and supplement the rest through the draft, there's nothing at all to be especially concerned about re: our depth. We're as solid from top to bottom of the roster as I can remember, counting from the start of the free agency period.

Now, to be a really good team, you need superstars on both sides of the ball. Those almost always have to come through the draft, which means we need to continue to develop players like R Williams, D Ware, J Jones, J Witten. Hitting it big on a QB somewhere along the line and eventually replacing TO with a young game changing WR are the biggest long-term questionmarks, but then, how many teams have superstars waiting in the wings at those positions? I mean, not counting Washington. *cough*