93 vs 2016 O-line

[ringmaster]

I was watching this segment on the NFL youtube channel about which o-line was more dominant the 93 o-line which consisted of Tunei, Gogan, Stepnoski, Newton, and Williams or the 2016 oline consisted of Smith, Leary, Frederick, Martin, and Free. Which offensive is better to you guys?

 

[Longboysfan]

At this point 2016 as they seem to be able to keep a clean pocket for Dak to pass from more than I remember the 93 group being able to do.

 

[ringmaster]

At this point 2016 as they seem to be able to keep a clean pocket for Dak to pass from more than I remember the 93 group being able to do.

That's cool @hipfake08 what is interesting about both of these monster offensive lines is that the 93 o-line only gave up 29 sacks all season and this 2016 group only gave up 28 sacks all season a sack less than the 93 group. This is how I look at both offensive lines when it comes to straight power and mauling people the edge goes to the 93 group they perfected the man blocking scheme and when it comes to athleticism and running both man and zone blocking the edge goes to the 2016 group so imo it's a toss up.

 

[d_dub88]

'93 was meaner. '16 technically more sound. I love our line now but I want to see them play a first place schedule with a real QB before I put them over the '90s wall. BTW Leary is one of my favorite players because he's the only one that I think would fit right in with the '90's wall. He wants to start a fight every game it seems.

 

[ghosttown cowboy]

The only player from 93 that I would want is Erik Williams...I think everyone else on the 2016 line is a better player than their 1993 counterpart...

 

[CWR]

'93 was meaner. '16 technically more sound. I love our line now but I want to see them play a first place schedule with a real QB before I put them over the '90s wall. BTW Leary is one of my favorite players because he's the only one that I think would fit right in with the '90's wall. He wants to start a fight every game it seems.

Leary is the meanest son of a gun on that line. Why is it Collins cant play tackle? Im guessing its a speed/arm length issue? I really wish we could retain Leary after this season and make that work. Ive also read Free is the club house leader and brings some intangibles that may be difficult to replace. (dont bother flaming me, im aware of his struggles)

Its nice to be in a place with this roster where we actually have so many talented players that we cant keep them all.

 

[ringmaster]

'93 was meaner. '16 technically more sound. I love our line now but I want to see them play a first place schedule with a real QB before I put them over the '90s wall. BTW Leary is one of my favorite players because he's the only one that I think would fit right in with the '90's wall. He wants to start a fight every game it seems.

Understandable @d_dub88 and you're correct about both o-lines the most interesting thing is that the 93 o-line didn't have one 1st rounder in that group all of them were late round draft picks and the 2016 group consist of 3 1st rounders with the execption of Leary, Free, and Collins and if I could pull one of those o-lineman from the 93 squad to add to this 2016 squad it would be Erik Williams over Doug Free and it's not even close as for the 1st place schedule imo Dak is that real QB you're talking about but as you mentioned the 90s wall won 3 SBs and this squad has yet to taste a SB but they have a chance and it starts Sunday against Green Bay.

 

[KJJ]

I was watching this segment on the NFL youtube channel about which o-line was more dominant the 93 o-line which consisted of Tunei, Gogan, Stepnoski, Newton, and Williams or the 2016 oline consisted of Smith, Leary, Frederick, Martin, and Free. Which offensive is better to you guys?

Hard to argue against an OL that ended up helping the Cowboys to 3 SB wins and Emmitt Smith becoming the NFL's all-time leading rusher. Case closed!

 

[ringmaster]

The only player from 93 that I would want is Erik Williams...I think everyone else on the 2016 line is a better player than their 1993 counterpart...

Yes @ghosttown cowboy Williams was one mean SOB and he was definitely the enforcer most of that 93 o-line was mean but the 2016 group is definitely more technically sound and consist of 3 1st rounders with the 93 group having late round guys and afterthoughts by the NFL that is what makes the 93 group very interesting.

 

[ringmaster]

Leary is the meanest son of a gun on that line. Why is it Collins cant play tackle? Im guessing its a speed/arm length issue? I really wish we could retain Leary after this season and make that work. Ive also read Free is the club house leader and brings some intangibles that may be difficult to replace. (dont bother flaming me, im aware of his struggles)

Its nice to be in a place with this roster where we actually have so many talented players that we cant keep them all.

I wish they can keep Leary after this season as well but I see him getting a bigger contract with another team and Collins will catch on to be a very good LG in this league and the Cowboys also has to sign Martin to an extension after the 2017 season.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Right now I'll take the one with the rings. In 5 years maybe not.

 

[Ring Leader]

Right now I'll take the one with the rings. In 5 years maybe not.

The 90s line never had 3 All-pros. I'll take this new group.

 

[rags747]

Understandable @d_dub88 and you're correct about both o-lines the most interesting thing is that the 93 o-line didn't have one 1st rounder in that group all of them were late round draft picks and the 2016 group consist of 3 1st rounders with the execption of Leary, Free, and Collins and if I could pull one of those o-lineman from the 93 squad to add to this 2016 squad it would be Erik Williams over Doug Free and it's not even close as for the 1st place schedule imo Dak is that real QB you're talking about but as you mentioned the 90s wall won 3 SBs and this squad has yet to taste a SB but they have a chance and it starts Sunday against Green Bay.

I think I take Eric Williams over any ol we have today...Thats how good he was.

 

[Teague31]

Any group with Doug Free loses

 

[T-RO]

I don't recall the 90's group ever blocking well downfield. And we weren't much good at screen plays where the maulers had to be athletic and work in space. I like this group best.

 

[HomeBiscuit]

Current group. They are making our rivals and the rest of the league change the way they build their teams if you haven't noticed.

 

[d_dub88]

Leary is the meanest son of a gun on that line. Why is it Collins cant play tackle? Im guessing its a speed/arm length issue? I really wish we could retain Leary after this season and make that work. Ive also read Free is the club house leader and brings some intangibles that may be difficult to replace. (dont bother flaming me, im aware of his struggles)

Its nice to be in a place with this roster where we actually have so many talented players that we cant keep them all.

I'd like to see Collins at RT. I don't dismiss who Free is or what he brings to the team, he is what he is and he would be an upgrade on many teams. I just think Collins is younger and has better feet. Arm length may be an issue but that didn't hurt Larry Allen when he moved to tackle and it wasn't a big issue while Collins was at LSU.

Don't torch me for saying Collins can do what LA did. I know he ain't LA.

 

[Bullflop]

Current group. They are making our rivals and the rest of the league change the way they build their teams if you haven't noticed.

I'm not sure about the rest of the league but they sure did with respect to the Giants. I think it's a tossup between the '93 and 2016 OLs, though.

 

[d_dub88]

Understandable @d_dub88 and you're correct about both o-lines the most interesting thing is that the 93 o-line didn't have one 1st rounder in that group all of them were late round draft picks and the 2016 group consist of 3 1st rounders with the execption of Leary, Free, and Collins and if I could pull one of those o-lineman from the 93 squad to add to this 2016 squad it would be Erik Williams over Doug Free and it's not even close as for the 1st place schedule imo Dak is that real QB you're talking about but as you mentioned the 90s wall won 3 SBs and this squad has yet to taste a SB but they have a chance and it starts Sunday against Green Bay.

Yeah, Dak is the real QB I'm talking about. 2015 the line played well but didn't have a QB that could win a game. Those '90s lines beat up great defenses in the NFC East as well as teams like San Fran and Green Bay every year. When you are winning against a stacked schedule every year that's special.

 

[xwalker]

I was watching this segment on the NFL youtube channel about which o-line was more dominant the 93 o-line which consisted of Tunei, Gogan, Stepnoski, Newton, and Williams or the 2016 oline consisted of Smith, Leary, Frederick, Martin, and Free. Which offensive is better to you guys?

Difficult question to answer.

Pass Blocking: About even. Free is terrible but the other 2016 guys are better.

Short Yardage Run Blocking: The early nineties OL was probably the best ever. They averaged over 320 pounds back when DLinemen were smaller on average than they are now. Erik Williams is the only OLineman that I've even seen basically take over a game the way some skill position player might take over a game. There was a game where they went the length of the field and I think every play was a run. They might have had 1 pass but I think it was all runs. EW would blow up his guy and then proceed to pummel a couple of other defenders who were often just ducking for cover.

Overall Run Blocking: Probably similar effectiveness but different styles. Power running with man blocking vs precision blocking with both man and zone.

Unfortunately Erik Williams (pre-wreck) and Larry Allen only played a few games together during LA's rookie year. EW was never the same after the car wreck.

Exception: In 2014 when Parnell replaced Free, the 2014 OL was the best in history.