A Better Option than Drafting a CB

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I have seen so many drafts come and go over the years where i research a player that i feel dallas is in need of. Like this years need to strengthen the CB position on our roster.
But i no longer feel that drafting a player late in the 1st round is a very smart gamble.
We all know that we need a CB. But instead of drafting a player that has a better chance of sucking than being a pro bowler why not trade the pick you would have used and get an established probowl player.
My solution... Lito Sheppard. He is a legit probowl corner that will not play in philly this year. For some reason players just do not have the value they should have. People act like a draft pick is gold. we could probably get him with a 2nd round draft pick. If not then use the 1st (28th) to get him.

Please i am welcoming people to convince me i am wrong on my evaluation of the draft. I want to enjoy the draft but it seems like its the biggest gamble in sports.
 

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superonyx;2004266 said:
I have seen so many drafts come and go over the years where i research a player that i feel dallas is in need of. Like this years need to strengthen the CB position on our roster.
But i no longer feel that drafting a player late in the 1st round is a very smart gamble.
We all know that we need a CB. But instead of drafting a player that has a better chance of sucking than being a pro bowler why not trade the pick you would have used and get an established probowl player.
My solution... Lito Sheppard. He is a legit probowl corner that will not play in philly this year. For some reason players just do not have the value they should have. People act like a draft pick is gold. we could probably get him with a 2nd round draft pick. If not then use the 1st (28th) to get him.

Please i am welcoming people to convince me i am wrong on my evaluation of the draft. I want to enjoy the draft but it seems like its the biggest gamble in sports.

With Lito it would be an issue of money.
 

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A Better Option than Drafting a CB is, drafting two in the First Round.. We gonna need them when Henry or Newman pull up lame.
 

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Not to mention Philly wont be thrilled about trading a proven pro-bowler to us.
 

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Tell Phily to trade us Dawkins also,,, no way in the world Phily trades a good player to us.... Also Lito basically has reach his potential, a rookie with no ceiling is the way to go right now and a trade for Pac/man
 

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philly wont be thrilled about letting an angry probowl player sit on the bench and sour their locker room when they gave Assante Samuel enough money to keep Lito, and Westbrook happy for 5 more years.

For a good draft pick they may consider letting the pride go and improving their team and locker room chemistry.

hey for us it sure beats drafting a corner or two that have better odds of sucking than contributing.
 

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Q_the_man;2004278 said:
Tell Phily to trade us Dawkins also,,, no way in the world Phily trades a good player to us.... Also Lito basically has reach his potential, a rookie with no ceiling is the way to go right now and a trade for Pac/man

thanks for the sarcastic Dawkins reply. I didnt know philly was shopping Dawkins. But thanks anyway....

Lito is a legit probowl corner. A rookie with no ceiling has about a 5-10% chance of reaching the level that Lito is already at.
 

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DBoys;2004268 said:
With Lito it would be an issue of money.

Ross from the NYG got a 13.5 million dollar contract last year.
I would rather trade for Lito to be Henry's long term replacement than pay a rookie 15 million who has a good chance of sucking.
 

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superonyx;2004284 said:
Ross from the NYG got a 13.5 million dollar contract last year.
I would rather trade for Lito to be Henry's long term replacement than pay a rookie 15 million who has a good chance of sucking.

Break that up over the length of Ross's contract and it is not that much. Lito is a pro bowler and would cost bookoo bucks.
 

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superonyx;2004266 said:
I have seen so many drafts come and go over the years where i research a player that i feel dallas is in need of. Like this years need to strengthen the CB position on our roster.
But i no longer feel that drafting a player late in the 1st round is a very smart gamble.
We all know that we need a CB. But instead of drafting a player that has a better chance of sucking than being a pro bowler why not trade the pick you would have used and get an established probowl player.
My solution... Lito Sheppard. He is a legit probowl corner that will not play in philly this year. For some reason players just do not have the value they should have. People act like a draft pick is gold. we could probably get him with a 2nd round draft pick. If not then use the 1st (28th) to get him.

Please i am welcoming people to convince me i am wrong on my evaluation of the draft. I want to enjoy the draft but it seems like its the biggest gamble in sports.

Two main problems with this scenario:

1. Division teams NEVER trade with each other concerning vets, only draft picks.

2. Lito is going to want Samuel money and we can afford to pay him and Newman that type of coin. If there was no salary cap, it wouldnt be an issue, but that is not the reality of the situation. We have less than $4 mill.
 

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Sheppard may want big bucks, but answer this, who would you pay the big bucks to, Sheppard a 26 year old, multiple pro bowler or Newman, a 31 year old, one time pro bowler?
 

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Mr Cowboy;2004306 said:
Sheppard may want big bucks, but answer this, who would you pay the big bucks to, Sheppard a 26 year old, multiple pro bowler or Newman, a 31 year old, one time pro bowler?
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Newman is 29, not 31. And I'd rather pay newman b/c he is the better cornerback and nfl deals arent guaranteed so it wont matter if he starts to decline 4 years into it.
 

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Vinnie2u;2004272 said:
A Better Option than Drafting a CB is, drafting two in the First Round.. We gonna need them when Henry or Newman pull up lame.

I would like to see the Cowboys draft two corners in Rds. 1-3 for that very reason, but hopefully not both in the first.

Give me DRC in the first round and Justin King in the second.
 

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Beefullo;2004335 said:
I would like to see the Cowboys draft two corners in Rds. 1-3 for that very reason, but hopefully not both in the first.

Give me DRC in the first round and Justin King in the second.

Would Like to get the following out of this Draft 2 CB's, WR, RB, SS, OT, NT
 

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superonyx;2004266 said:
We all know that we need a CB. But instead of drafting a player that has a better chance of sucking than being a pro bowler why not trade the pick you would have used and get an established probowl player.
My solution... Lito Sheppard.
Sounds interesting but would Filthy really trade him to us and of course there is the money issue.
 

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We don't need an OT; we already got 3 young OTs to develop unless we move one of them to OG.
 

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Lito is a great player but I'd rather invest in our future by drafting a young stud cb or two.
 

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I think it's an interesting point superonyx, and I think others have pin-pointed some good reasons why such a trade wouldn't probably be made.

My biggest reasons "why-not" are:

1. We're right up against the cap right now, and Sheppard is going to want a renegotiated contract where ever he eventually ends up.

2. When Henry/Newman can start, they seem pretty effective, how do you think it would make Henry feel that he's suddenly the #3 corner? Especially, since we paid him big bucks to be here. He would probably request a trade and the locker room atmosphere would suffer.

3. Sheppard wouldn't come here to be a #3 corner.

4. To win more than for a year or two, you need young players to grow into capable starters. The fact is no team can win long term if their draft picks don't come through. And if the Cowboys don't then they don't deserve to win long term either.
 
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