A Different Draft Strategy

[plasticman]

This draft:

1. Trade the #1 pick for a package that includes their #1 pick for the following season.
2. In all other rounds, BPA or trade down.

Subsequent drafts:

1. Draft a lineman in the first round or trade down.
2. In all other rounds, BPA or trade down.
3. Draft a QB every two years.

What is the best case scenario when the Cowboys make their selection at the #12 overall spot?

Obviously, they pick a guy that balls out day #1, rookie of the year, etc., etc, right?

Then what? Two or three seasons later he is holding out for the max contract at his position.

Of course there are several negative possibilities. He suffers consecutive injuries like Overshown. He is a bust like Morris Claiborne, drafted 6th overall in 2012. Why put all your eggs in one basket?

What I am saying is that the Cowboys don't need another superstar. They need a group of good players capable of forming a great team. They need meaningful contributors. They need depth. they need valid competition at key positions which will make the entire squad stronger.

The Cowboys don't just have the #12 selection in the 1st round, they have the same in each and every round. Each round there is always talent that seems to trickle down from the previous round.

There is sure to be a QB available at #12 and there are some team that may be desperate enough to make a trade. This is just one example of the possibilities.

The Jones's constantly lose draft value when they reach. There is a measurable difference when choosing another player other than BPA. This measurable difference adds up for a draft when you combine that with previous drafts. There is no such thing as being "set" at a particular position, anyway. Didn't this season prove that?

The Cowboys were "set" at DE with Parsons and Lawrence starting, backed up by promising Sam Williams and rookie Marshawn Kneeland.

The Cowboys were "set" at CB with two former 1st team All-Pros starting along with dependable Jourdan Lewis and backed up by promising rookie Caelon Carson.

Targeting a specific position for a draft is futile. You have what you have at kickoff for regular season game #1 and not before. There is absolutely no telling where the injury bug is going to hit and the only protection is depth, real depth and not just a warm body covered in hope.

Trade the #12 pick. It has immense value that could eventually get you at least 3 really good contributors.

 

[McKDaddy]

They need a group of good players capable of forming a great team. They need meaningful contributors. They need depth.

bravo

 

[FanofJerry]

if the next two drafts are supposedly stacked in talent like i have read on here...(dont care if its true or not)

then i would devise a plan targeting the potential studs you might find in the 2nd and 3rd round of this draft and next and if you think there are quite a few guys you like...only then would i trade down.

but i am only going but what i have read...i dont research drafts or know if what i read was correct.

maybe the start of the 2 year run is next years draft...but thats projecting out a lot of talent...so I assume its this draft that starts 2 years of deep talent(generally speaking)

 

[plasticman]

if the next two drafts are supposedly stacked in talent like i have read on here...(dont care if its true or not)

then i would devise a plan targeting the potential studs you might find in the 2nd and 3rd round of this draft and next and if you think there are quite a few guys you like...only then would i trade down.

but i am only going but what i have read...i dont research drafts or know if what i read was correct.

maybe the start of the 2 year run is next years draft...but thats projecting out a lot of talent...so I assume its this draft that starts 2 years of deep talent(generally speaking)

This is one of the reasons I would like the Cowboys to trade down, perhaps pick up their #1 or early #2, another draft pick, and next year's #1 pick. I really think they are at the point where they need to consider volume, and these next two drafts would be target rich.

 

[Tabascocat]

Dallas does need many positions filled but at what cost? One blue chip player(if available) is worth a lot more than a few unknowns. By trading down, players like Micah, Zach, CD, etc would be overlooked. If a day one impact player is there, draft him. If the draft doesn’t fall in their favor, then explore trading out.

 

[FanofJerry]

Dallas does need many positions filled but at what cost? One blue chip player(if available) is worth a lot more than a few unknowns. By trading down, players like Micah, Zach, CD, etc would be overlooked. If a day one impact player is there, draft him. If the draft doesn’t fall in their favor, then explore trading out.

It's a case by case thing, obviously, with each draft.

If the reports are true about next two drafts...I would try and collect some additional picks somehow.

It's a numbers game, but yeah, no one is going to argue against the blue chip angle...it's the safest for acquiring talent.

If I didn't say it or wast clear, I was talking about less expensive moves than first round, blue chip guys...like accumulate late second and later picks if you have a bunch of guys you know have to fall because there is so much talent

 

[Cowboyny]

This draft:

1. Trade the #1 pick for a package that includes their #1 pick for the following season.
2. In all other rounds, BPA or trade down.

Subsequent drafts:

1. Draft a lineman in the first round or trade down.
2. In all other rounds, BPA or trade down.
3. Draft a QB every two years.

What is the best case scenario when the Cowboys make their selection at the #12 overall spot?

Obviously, they pick a guy that balls out day #1, rookie of the year, etc., etc, right?

Then what? Two or three seasons later he is holding out for the max contract at his position.

Of course there are several negative possibilities. He suffers consecutive injuries like Overshown. He is a bust like Morris Claiborne, drafted 6th overall in 2012. Why put all your eggs in one basket?

What I am saying is that the Cowboys don't need another superstar. They need a group of good players capable of forming a great team. They need meaningful contributors. They need depth. they need valid competition at key positions which will make the entire squad stronger.

The Cowboys don't just have the #12 selection in the 1st round, they have the same in each and every round. Each round there is always talent that seems to trickle down from the previous round.

There is sure to be a QB available at #12 and there are some team that may be desperate enough to make a trade. This is just one example of the possibilities.

The Jones's constantly lose draft value when they reach. There is a measurable difference when choosing another player other than BPA. This measurable difference adds up for a draft when you combine that with previous drafts. There is no such thing as being "set" at a particular position, anyway. Didn't this season prove that?

The Cowboys were "set" at DE with Parsons and Lawrence starting, backed up by promising Sam Williams and rookie Marshawn Kneeland.

The Cowboys were "set" at CB with two former 1st team All-Pros starting along with dependable Jourdan Lewis and backed up by promising rookie Caelon Carson.

Targeting a specific position for a draft is futile. You have what you have at kickoff for regular season game #1 and not before. There is absolutely no telling where the injury bug is going to hit and the only protection is depth, real depth and not just a warm body covered in hope.

Trade the #12 pick. It has immense value that could eventually get you at least 3 really good contributors.

You better have a player that another team is willing to give up a future 1 for, there isn't one in this draft class.

 

[J-man]

if the next two drafts are supposedly stacked in talent like i have read on here...(dont care if its true or not)

then i would devise a plan targeting the potential studs you might find in the 2nd and 3rd round of this draft and next and if you think there are quite a few guys you like...only then would i trade down.

but i am only going but what i have read...i dont research drafts or know if what i read was correct.

maybe the start of the 2 year run is next years draft...but thats projecting out a lot of talent...so I assume its this draft that starts 2 years of deep talent(generally speaking)

If I am the Titans, Browns or Giants this is what I'm doing. A top 3 pick would net them a a boat load of picks, including a next year's #1. Which they could then use to move up (if need be) to get a top flight QB instead of one of these hacks.

 

[FanofJerry]

If I am the Titans, Browns or Giants this is what I'm doing. A top 3 pick would net them a a boat load of picks, including a next year's #1. Which they could then use to move up (if need be) to get a top flight QB instead of one of these hacks.

That's what I am thinking.

If there is no stud you must have this draft, trade back, accumulate, and next draft you have the ability to move up for some one.

Again, that's assuming there is no must have guy on your wish list at the top of this draft

 

[plasticman]

You better have a player that another team is willing to give up a future 1 for, there isn't one in this draft class.

QB-hungry teams get kind of desperate around that point in the 1st round. The Cowboys had the 22nd pick in the 2007 draft when Brady Quinn was still in the "green room". They got the Browns 1st round pick, #26 overall, their 3rd round pick and their 1st round pick for the 2008 draft. That was for the 22nd pick

Or, there could be a top-rated player that just slips a little. That particular player could just be that "last piece" in the mind of some GM who had only dreamed of acquiring him.

QB's always take a massive leap up about a month before the draft. We never know.....

 

[FanofJerry]

QB-hungry teams get kind of desperate around that point in the 1st round. The Cowboys had the 22nd pick in the 2007 draft when Brady Quinn was still in the "green room". They got the Browns 1st round pick, #26 overall, their 3rd round pick and their 1st round pick for the 2008 draft. That was for the 22nd pick

Or, there could be a top-rated player that just slips a little. That particular player could just be that "last piece" in the mind of some GM who had only dreamed of acquiring him.

QB's always take a massive leap up about a month before the draft. We never know.....

Can you please define your stance on the current QB market?

Is it easy for you to understand why it is so high or not?

 

[Cowboyny]

QB-hungry teams get kind of desperate around that point in the 1st round. The Cowboys had the 22nd pick in the 2007 draft when Brady Quinn was still in the "green room". They got the Browns 1st round pick, #26 overall, their 3rd round pick and their 1st round pick for the 2008 draft. That was for the 22nd pick

Or, there could be a top-rated player that just slips a little. That particular player could just be that "last piece" in the mind of some GM who had only dreamed of acquiring him.

QB's always take a massive leap up about a month before the draft. We never know.....

The qb class this year is terrible, any of substance will be long gone

 

[cnuball21]

This draft:

1. Trade the #1 pick for a package that includes their #1 pick for the following season.
2. In all other rounds, BPA or trade down.

Subsequent drafts:

1. Draft a lineman in the first round or trade down.
2. In all other rounds, BPA or trade down.
3. Draft a QB every two years.

What is the best case scenario when the Cowboys make their selection at the #12 overall spot?

Obviously, they pick a guy that balls out day #1, rookie of the year, etc., etc, right?

Then what? Two or three seasons later he is holding out for the max contract at his position.

Of course there are several negative possibilities. He suffers consecutive injuries like Overshown. He is a bust like Morris Claiborne, drafted 6th overall in 2012. Why put all your eggs in one basket?

What I am saying is that the Cowboys don't need another superstar. They need a group of good players capable of forming a great team. They need meaningful contributors. They need depth. they need valid competition at key positions which will make the entire squad stronger.

The Cowboys don't just have the #12 selection in the 1st round, they have the same in each and every round. Each round there is always talent that seems to trickle down from the previous round.

There is sure to be a QB available at #12 and there are some team that may be desperate enough to make a trade. This is just one example of the possibilities.

The Jones's constantly lose draft value when they reach. There is a measurable difference when choosing another player other than BPA. This measurable difference adds up for a draft when you combine that with previous drafts. There is no such thing as being "set" at a particular position, anyway. Didn't this season prove that?

The Cowboys were "set" at DE with Parsons and Lawrence starting, backed up by promising Sam Williams and rookie Marshawn Kneeland.

The Cowboys were "set" at CB with two former 1st team All-Pros starting along with dependable Jourdan Lewis and backed up by promising rookie Caelon Carson.

Targeting a specific position for a draft is futile. You have what you have at kickoff for regular season game #1 and not before. There is absolutely no telling where the injury bug is going to hit and the only protection is depth, real depth and not just a warm body covered in hope.

Trade the #12 pick. It has immense value that could eventually get you at least 3 really good contributors.

I can’t get behind a draft strategy where a big part of it is a future pick.

We have a franchise QB, we should be doing everything possible to add talent as quickly as possible.

Now if we can trade down and add additional picks this year count me in.