A Draft position question if we win vs lose

[Kangaroo]

Ok if we when what is are draft position and if we lose do we stay the say or do we tumble a few spots since we tie with a lot of teams at 9-7 anyone have the answer to this question I have no clue

 

[gollum]

Ok if we when what is are draft position and if we lose do we stay the say or do we tumble a few spots since we tie with a lot of teams at 9-7 anyone have the answer to this question I have no clue

18th if we lose, 20th if we win

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

I dont care what you guys say but I wanna ****en win the last game and punish the rams, just to make a point that we could have turned some heads if we squeaked into the playoffs...

 

[MrPhil]

I dont care what you guys say but I wanna ****en win the last game and punish the rams, just to make a point that we could have turned some heads if we squeaked into the playoffs...

Agreed, for only a two spot swing, I would much rather head into the offseaon with a win.....unless BP decides to go young to see what Romo and/or Henson can do. I can't decide whether it is more important to end on a winning note, or to evaluate those two in a live game.....

 

[Kangaroo]

I did not say that I wanted us to lose I was trying to get an idea of how far we moved up or down in the draft win vs lose. Now if it was for the Reggie Bush ala 1st draft pick this year I wanted us to lose but we are not in that range like the Texans.


I just worried which team is going to show up since no playoff is on the line they could come out flat heck this team came out flat in back to back critical games :bang2:

 

[jazzcat22]

lose 16 to 19, win 19 to 22, depending on strength of schedule to the teams that have the same record as us

 

[Zman5]

I don't want my team to ever play for the draft position. The draft is such a crap shoot.

 

[jazzcat22]

I did not say that I wanted us to lose I was trying to get an idea of how far we moved up or down in the draft win vs lose. Now if it was for the Reggie Bush ala 1st draft pick this year I wanted us to lose but we are not in that range like the Texans.


I just worried which team is going to show up since no playoff is on the line they could come out flat heck this team came out flat in back to back critical games :bang2:

I want to win also, win or lose we pick 16 to 22. Not much difference in players in that range.

 

[gollum]

lose 16 to 19, win 19 to 22, depending on strength of schedule to the teams that have the same record as us

Not true jazz, i've posted the draft order in another post(on page 1 now)

 

[bbgun]

Get JJ his yards and then lose the game (but don't throw it). A win vs the Ginst last year would have cost us Ware.

 

[jazzcat22]

Not true jazz, i've posted the draft order in another post(on page 1 now)

playoff teams are only initially listed 21-31. I posted this on another thread. If they lose in the playoffs, thay fall back to their group of teams with the same record. So depending on strength of schedule we can pick after the Commanders providing we win tonight, and the Skins don't go to the SB.

 

[jazzcat22]

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/DraftOrderFormula.htm

check this out.

Note: Each team in a group with the same win-loss record moves down within the group if it advances further than they do in the playoffs. No team moves outside its group, except that the Super Bowl champion will select 32nd and the Super Bowl loser 31st.

Vikings and Rams made the playoffs last year, but when they lost, they went back to their "group", picked 18 & 19

 

[gollum]

playoff teams are only initially listed 21-31. I posted this on another thread. If they lose in the playoffs, thay fall back to their group of teams with the same record. So depending on strength of schedule we can pick after the Commanders providing we win tonight, and the Skins don't go to the SB.

Actually, I was talking about the 16th place(best we can pick is 18th). But what you said here is not true either. First of all, Washington doesn't have a pick in the 1st round(traded it to Denver). Also, they can't "fall" in front of us anyway...per nfl.com tiebreaking procedures:

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING
If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.
2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule.

If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.

 

[jazzcat22]

Actually, I was talking about the 16th place(best we can pick is 18th). But what you said here is not true either. First of all, Washington doesn't have a pick in the 1st round(traded it to Denver). Also, they can't "fall" in front of us anyway...per nfl.com tiebreaking procedures:

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING
If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.
2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule.

If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.

True, I forgot that about playoff teams for the tie breaker

 

[Chuck 54]

Unless this was for the right to draft a franchise QB, RB, or WR, I want to win....losing and getting an earlier draft pick is not wished for, but lessons the blow a little.