A Draft To Make You Think

NeonDeion21

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With the report from Mike Fisher that the Cowboys could pass on Vaccaro if there, I wanted to do a realistic trade down mock to get people to think about other possible scenarios.

Let's assume SF does decide to move up to grab a falling player.

Dallas trades #18 and #47 (1330) to SF for #31, #34, #93, #164 (1314)

#31-TE Tyler Eifert - Notre Dame

Again, this is NOT my ideal draft. It is just a drill to make each of us think outside the box because every year we are surprised by what Dallas does on draft day. There have been some reports out there that Jason Garrett loves Eifert and wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on him. A TE in the first would make fans go crazy, but maybe Garrett is worrying about Witten breaking down.

A base offense with Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Tyler Eifert and DeMarco Murray? You could certainly do worse.

#34- DT Jesse Williams - Alabama

The Garrett-Saban ties help get Williams here. Williams can play the 1 technique and could be rotated with Jason Hatcher on passing downs. Williams plays well against double teams and always plays hard. Williams also allows Dallas to play multiple fronts as Williams could play NT or DE like Red Bryant does in SEA.

#80 - QB Tyler Wilson - Arkansas

The Cowboys have been looking to find a young developmental QB behind Romo for at least two years now. Garrett would have drafted both Andy Dalton or Colin Kaepernick if they were available in the 2nd round. Wilson falls here because of the depth at the QB position. I believe Geno, Nassib, Manuel, and Barkley all go before Wilson.

#93 - OC Brian Schwenke - Cal

With Dallas exploring the RT market in FA, it makes me believe they won't go RT in the draft. Instead, they select the best zone-center in the draft and he starts Day 1.

#114 - RB Stephfan Taylor - Stanford

Taylor can do a little bit of everything. He can protect Tony and he can catch the ball out of the backfield. He isn't flashy, but can produce as a #2 RB in the league.

#151 - S T.J. McDonald - USC

McDonald falls because of a bad senior season and because he is a true in the box safety. Maybe he competes with McCray in camp to be the 4th safety on the team.

#164 - DE Lavar Edwards - LSU

Dallas adds another rotational pass rusher to their front. Edwards has long arms and the potential to develop into a nice edge rusher.

#185 - CB Khalid Wooten - Nevada

Long armed, rangy CB that best fits in a cover-2 defense.


This mock isn't anything we could ever expect, but just something to think about if we get wiped out at #18.
 

NeonDeion21

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IAmLegend;5048981 said:
I would puke.

:laugh2: Listen, I wouldn't be happy. But, weird things happen every year. I'm just trying to get some different players on the board for us to consider.
 

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Yup this got me thinking. Of course my first reaction is to hate it since its different lol but I appreciate the effort and explanation for picks. A better Safety and DT is what concerns me with this draft. Don't think Edwards would be there at #164 but I wouldn't complain.
 

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I agree that we need to start thinking outside the box.

Eifert will be long gone though.

Swap Williams for somebody else and I'm ok w that draft.
 

NeonDeion21

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AsthmaField;5048986 said:
Yeah, not that weird.

Maybe not. But what happens if you do trade down to #31 and Eifert is the BPA? Do you pass on him to select a lesser player? Isn't that what has gotten Dallas in trouble?
 

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NeonDeion21;5048990 said:
Maybe not. But what happens if you do trade down to #31 and Eifert is the BPA? Do you pass on him to select a lesser player? Isn't that what has gotten Dallas in trouble?

Yet, on the other side of the coin, do you use a first round choice to select not only a backup, but a third string TE? Felix Jones redux.
 

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M'Kevon;5048994 said:
Yet, on the other side of the coin, do you use a first round choice to select not only a backup, but a third string TE? Felix Jones redux.

Not sure. That's why I proposed this scenario. It is obvious that JJ has wanted that other TE.

To me, I don't hate the idea of Eiffert late 1 or early 2. Replacing Vickers/Phillips with Eiffert is a big upgrade. Is that better than drafting Cooper/Warmack and replacing Livings? No. But again, just another thing to think about.
 

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Who says Eifert would be 3rd string? He is a far superior player to Hanna who has alot to prove and couldnt block me. People keep forgetting Witten is 31 with alot of miles on those tires also. If he went down it wouldnt be pretty.
 

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NeonDeion21;5048995 said:
Not sure. That's why I proposed this scenario. It is obvious that JJ has wanted that other TE.

To me, I don't hate the idea of Eiffert late 1 or early 2. Replacing Vickers/Phillips with Eiffert is a big upgrade. Is that better than drafting Cooper/Warmack and replacing Livings? No. But again, just another thing to think about.

Yeah, I understand trying to decode JJ's wants and needs. But I'd take Williams at 31. Much bigger need to the team. BPA can't justify everything.
 

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RS12;5049002 said:
Who says Eifert would be 3rd string? He is a far superior player to Hanna who has alot to prove and couldnt block me. People keep forgetting Witten is 31 with alot of miles on those tires also. If he went down it wouldnt be pretty.

Eifert may eventually outplay Hanna, but right now, he's a year down in experience. Plus, his blocking is as suspect as Hanna's.

I'd rather fill obvious holes on the team, than play "what if."
 

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If we draft Eifert in round 1...It doesn't matter how good Hana is...and it doesn't matter how bad Eifert is. Eifert is playing over him, period. There isn't even anything to discuss here
 

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If everyone we thought was even nearly worth the 18th pick was gone, I at least like the idea of that trade.

Not the players taken though.
 

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I actually love it. Everyone has their eyes on Cooper, Warmack and Vaccaro, that we're ignoring a ton of other good prospects as well.

And I think it's realistic as well.

Tyler Wilson is one of like 3 QBs in this draft that I like. I love Jesse Williams, Stepfan Taylor, and Brian Schwenke. A combination of those 3 is a win, even with the TE pick in the first (which isn't a bad idea in itself). I really believe in BPA. Drafting for particular positions in the past has got us guys like Ebenezer Ekuban. Taking BPA got us Carter, Lee, Murray.
 

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If we made that trade, I just can't see using your first pick on a back-up when there are other, more dire needs...I love eifert, being a Notre Dame fanatic, but not while we have witten.

#31: Cyprien (SS) - need to get better there, espcially with the new scheme
#34: Armstead (OT) - perhaps a little early, but you have to get an OL within our first two picks and there is a big gap until our next
#80: Williams,B (DT) - the motor on him is terrific
#93: Schwenke (C) - might be the best C in the draft..at least in the discussion
#114: Gholston (DE) - more rotational guys fo the DL
#151: Barner (RB) - ultimate change of pace guy - change the "a" to a "u" in his name
#164: Boyce (WR) - more speed for the offense
#185: Williams (TE) - the blocking TE that they need

If we pulled the deal with SF, I would be very happy with this draft...fills a lot of holes...we would still need to go and grab a FA OLine guy like Moore...
 

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If San Fran wants to move up to get our pick 18 then why do we have to give them equal value? I would want both 31,34 and another selection for pick 18. We should control what we receive to trade back.
 

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kevinhickey;5049089 said:
If San Fran wants to move up to get our pick 18 then why do we have to give them equal value? I would want both 31,34 and another selection for pick 18. We should control what we receive to trade back.

Because virtually every trade last year was within 10% of the trade chart value. We do not "control" what we get back, and why would you suggest that the OP be unreasonable in a hypothetical?

Conversely, I'd rather have SF 61st pick than what the OP proposed.
 

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With regard to the mock, I love every pick except for the Williams and Wilson picks.

Referring to Eifert as a "backup" is somewhat nonsensical considering our base set with him would shift to a two TE formation. Is Aaron Hernandez a "backup" in NE? Eifert, unlike any other singular player in this draft aside from maybe Austin, provides the possibility of completely reforming our offensive philosophy. He would also be an amazing value at 31.

I'm not a big fan of the Jesse Williams pick because he provides absolutely no pass rush ability. I'd rather we go Warford, Moore, or Watson.

Not a huge fan of Wilson, and I'm not a huge fan of having a QB on the board after the Romo extension. Winters, Bailey, or Jenkins would be solid choices here.

Other than those minor complaints, good job on creating a very original mock.
 
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