A Fact About Fabini That Surprised And Encouraged Me...

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...I've been lukewarm about Fabini until I read the following fact from a CNNSI article..."Fabini spent his entire eight-year career with the Jets, starting 114 straight games until he tore a chest muscle Nov. 18 and didn't return. He was released Feb. 22."

Started 114 straight games! This is a great move on our part. The guy can play right or left tackle, so he gives us depth and experience at both tackle spots.

I kind of had in mind he was a broken down old vet. But, in reality, he's only an 8 year vet, who, until his chest injury this past season, was a war-horse who never left the line-up.

He said he is completely healed and ready to start the off-season program tomorrow.

I am really happy with this signing.
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
...I've been lukewarm about Fabini until I read the following fact from a CNNSI article..."Fabini spent his entire eight-year career with the Jets, starting 114 straight games until he tore a chest muscle Nov. 18 and didn't return. He was released Feb. 22."

Started 114 straight games! This is a great move on our part. The guy can play right or left tackle, so he gives us depth and experience at both tackle spots.

I kind of had in mind he was a broken down old vet. But, in reality, he's only an 8 year vet, who, until his chest injury this past season, was a war-horse who never left the line-up.

He said he is completely healed and ready to start the off-season program tomorrow.

I am really happy with this signing.

Yep..he is solid and is only 31-32 so he has a few years left in the tank as an OL player. He is not injury prone, it appears to have been serious enough of an injury to interrupt his 114 games but he stated he is healthy and ready for training. :)
 

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I'm going to reserve judgement till I see him on the pitch. Last year we had 3 FA busts and one or two the year before. Odds are one or two players that they picked up will be useless.
 

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Anguillidae said:
Fabini was injured i 1999, where he missed nine games. But he still dosn't seem injury prone.


I don't see how anyone can use the term "injury prone" with a guy who started 114 straight games in the NFL and then suffered 1 injury.

Also 32 years old is not that old for an OL.

We have to always remember, this type of signing is today's NFL. You exchange certain parts year to year. When Fabini slows down we exchange the part for another player that can fill that spot.

This isn't the NFL I grew up with, where 90-95% of your team were home-grown and stayed with you for the entire careers.
 

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Fabini has been used in the past to describe the prototypical Parcells player. He is really tough as nails and plays through pain. He's a battler who seldom gets beat because he fights nonstop through the whistle.

Obviously he's no spring chicken but the Jets would have loved to keep him at the rate we signed him for. I guarantee you BP called him up and got him in here.
 

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jterrell said:
Fabini has been used in the past to describe the prototypical Parcells player. He is really tough as nails and plays through pain. He's a battler who seldom gets beat because he fights nonstop through the whistle.

Obviously he's no spring chicken but the Jets would have loved to keep him at the rate we signed him for. I guarantee you BP called him up and got him in here.


Yes, no question about Parcells contact. Good analysis of the type of player Fabini seems to be. The anti-Jacob Rogers. :)

BTW, did you see McGinest talking about Parcells on the NFL network this week?

He said he was talking with Bill, (said they talk a lot about life, everything), and said he called Bill when he was in Cleveland and said "what a great fit" it seemed to be for him there, "they were really interested", etc.

He said Bill told him that it sounded like Cleveland was where he needed to be.

My translation of that is McGinest talks to Bill to see what kind of $$ the Boys can/will pay him. Bill says they won't be able to go that high, (remember unknown to all of us at the time, T.O.'s $10,0000,00 contract was in the works), so Bill tells McGinest to stay right there with Romeo in Cleveland and get his $$.

You can just tell Parcells develops some real close bonds with a lot of his players.
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
I don't see how anyone can use the term "injury prone" with a guy who started 114 straight games in the NFL and then suffered 1 injury.

Also 32 years old is not that old for an OL.

We have to always remember, this type of signing is today's NFL. You exchange certain parts year to year. When Fabini slows down we exchange the part for another player that can fill that spot.

This isn't the NFL I grew up with, where 90-95% of your team were home-grown and stayed with you for the entire careers.
I didn't say he was injury prone (just the opposite). But he hasn't startet 114 straight games. But he has started all 114 games he has played in.
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
Yes, no question about Parcells contact. Good analysis of the type of player Fabini seems to be. The anti-Jacob Rogers. :)

BTW, did you see McGinest talking about Parcells on the NFL network this week?

He said he was talking with Bill, (said they talk a lot about life, everything), and said he called Bill when he was in Cleveland and said "what a great fit" it seemed to be for him there, "they were really interested", etc.

He said Bill told him that it sounded like Cleveland was where he needed to be.

My translation of that is McGinest talks to Bill to see what kind of $$ the Boys can/will pay him. Bill says they won't be able to go that high, (remember unknown to all of us at the time, T.O.'s $10,0000,00 contract was in the works), so Bill tells McGinest to stay right there with Romeo in Cleveland and get his $$.

You can just tell Parcells develops some real close bonds with a lot of his players.

Yup. I'd bet dollars to donuts TO spends the rest of his life saying BP was the best coach he ever had.

And he'll do it on ESPN gameday or somesuch when he retires because the guy has personality galore and a love for all things camera related.

I think McGinest is out because Dallas wants to continue building youth on defense.
 

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Anguillidae said:
I didn't say he was injury prone (just the opposite). But he hasn't startet 114 straight games. But he has started all 114 games he has played in.


Oh, I really didn't mean to sound like I was saying that for you. I knew what your point was. Just anyone who would criticize him and say that.

But the article did say "straight games". Are you saying that it's "straight" games he was available to play in?

114 games over a 16 game schedule would be 7+ years. He's only an 8 year vet, so it has to be pretty close to an accurate statement, doesn't it?
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
Oh, I really didn't mean to sound like I was saying that for you. I knew what your point was. Just anyone who would criticize him and say that.

But the article did say "straight games". Are you saying that it's "straight" games he was available to play in?

114 games over a 16 game schedule would be 7+ years. He's only an 8 year vet, so it has to be pretty close to an accurate statement, doesn't it?
Okay, I wont take it personal :) I agree with you. I think it's a great signing.

But he did miss nine games in 1999, so the article is wrong about "straight". http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12356
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
...I've been lukewarm about Fabini until I read the following fact from a CNNSI article..."Fabini spent his entire eight-year career with the Jets, starting 114 straight games until he tore a chest muscle Nov. 18 and didn't return. He was released Feb. 22."

Started 114 straight games! This is a great move on our part. The guy can play right or left tackle, so he gives us depth and experience at both tackle spots.

I kind of had in mind he was a broken down old vet. But, in reality, he's only an 8 year vet, who, until his chest injury this past season, was a war-horse who never left the line-up.

He said he is completely healed and ready to start the off-season program tomorrow.

I am really happy with this signing.

ME to! I have been hoping we would land Fabini since the season ended and rumors started that he might be released.

I will say it.... We now have a SOLID RT....
 

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jterrell said:
Yup. I'd bet dollars to donuts TO spends the rest of his life saying BP was the best coach he ever had.

And he'll do it on ESPN gameday or somesuch when he retires because the guy has personality galore and a love for all things camera related.

I think McGinest is out because Dallas wants to continue building youth on defense.
I think that's right on the mark. If you read the Combine reports it sounds like we're very high on Manny Lawson. That's a heck of a bookend with DeMarcus Ware. Haven't seen anything potentially like that in a 3-4 scheme since Greg Lloyd and Kevin Greene.
 

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I think that's right on the mark. If you read the Combine reports it sounds like we're very high on Manny Lawson. That's a heck of a bookend with DeMarcus Ware. Haven't seen anything potentially like that in a 3-4 scheme since Greg Lloyd and Kevin Greene.


Hos,

I heard the same thing about Lawson.

One thing interesting to me about Lawson is he was voted by the players and coaches as the MVP of their DL the past 2 seasons and that's with Williams at the other end.

Also, I don't know if this is accurate, but I read a report that said he had a vertical jump one time that couldn't be measured on the scale! I was like....WHAT!? :D

He does sound like an amazing athlete. I could very well see him being the pick at #18. One thing's for sure, it won't be a WR.
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
...I've been lukewarm about Fabini until I read the following fact from a CNNSI article..."Fabini spent his entire eight-year career with the Jets, starting 114 straight games until he tore a chest muscle Nov. 18 and didn't return. He was released Feb. 22."

Started 114 straight games! This is a great move on our part. The guy can play right or left tackle, so he gives us depth and experience at both tackle spots.

I kind of had in mind he was a broken down old vet. But, in reality, he's only an 8 year vet, who, until his chest injury this past season, was a war-horse who never left the line-up.

He said he is completely healed and ready to start the off-season program tomorrow.

I am really happy with this signing.


Research is a wonderful thing, isn't it?? I have my preconceived notions, but I try to make it a point to go look at the numbers before runnin' off at the mouth... I find out my preconceived notions are on occasion rather ridiculous...
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
...I've been lukewarm about Fabini until I read the following fact from a CNNSI article..."Fabini spent his entire eight-year career with the Jets, starting 114 straight games until he tore a chest muscle Nov. 18 and didn't return. He was released Feb. 22."

Started 114 straight games! This is a great move on our part. The guy can play right or left tackle, so he gives us depth and experience at both tackle spots.

I kind of had in mind he was a broken down old vet. But, in reality, he's only an 8 year vet, who, until his chest injury this past season, was a war-horse who never left the line-up.

He said he is completely healed and ready to start the off-season program tomorrow.

I am really happy with this signing.

There is no difference between this situation and Rivera. He started tons of games then he got hurt and some really soured on him. He will be fine just like Fabini. Players get hurt in this league you know.
 

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And as much as people have soured on Rivera, I'd like to see what he's capable of with a year to heal from his injury and an experienced RT next to him. Last year he seemed to be doing fine until Flo went down. The whole LINE seemed to be palying well until that point (yes including Pettiti). I'm not quite ready to write Rivera off just yet.

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Hostile said:
I think that's right on the mark. If you read the Combine reports it sounds like we're very high on Manny Lawson. That's a heck of a bookend with DeMarcus Ware. Haven't seen anything potentially like that in a 3-4 scheme since Greg Lloyd and Kevin Greene.
Bookend OLB's that will terrorize offenses for years.

I have NO problem with that.
 

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I was looking at his Stats Inc stats and his footballoutsiders.com stats. His best years where his first four seasons where he didn't allow for many sacks. After that he was giving up about 8 sacks a season. However, he was a very, very good run blocker.

Remember, in his first three years he was basically in the Parcells type offense where they use man-to-man block. Afterwards, they went to the WCO with the zone blocking. That *might* be a reason why his play dipped. I figure he'll play right tackle instead of LT, so they may just wind up with a very productive RT here.

I think the big thing is that he stays healthy. While Parcells has made some questionable personnel decisions on the O-Line, they have been a bit unlucky due to injuries. In reality, if Ryan Young's knee holds up, he'd still be the starter at RT.


Rich........
 
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