A few top 10 prospects - who is the best fit for Dallas?

[MarionBarberThe4th]

#1 - You don't draft PP to play safety. You can find a good safety later in the draft if you want.

Weve been trying for years now

 

[divot]

That's crazy talk! -B. Urlacher

Malcom Jenkins has transitioned very nicely from a zone corner to safety
But he was selected at the end of the draft not top 10

 

[DIAF]

Fairly is hands down the dirtiest player i've ever seen in College Football. This guy literally tries to hurt players on every play he's on the field and he will be a fine/penalty/suspension machine in the NFL. I despise him and want the Boys to have nothing to do with him.

 

[dbair1967]

Malcom Jenkins has transitioned very nicely from a zone corner to safety
But he was selected at the end of the draft not top 10

He was the 14th pick overall.

 

[jblaze2004]

Fairly is hands down the dirtiest player i've ever seen in College Football. This guy literally tries to hurt players on every play he's on the field and he will be a fine/penalty/suspension machine in the NFL. I despise him and want the Boys to have nothing to do with him.

well i would love to have him on our team. We have too many choir boys helping other team players up. Its like we dont't want to hit somebody and talk trash. No we want to hug and get autographs

 

[jblaze2004]

for some reason Malcom Jenkins from the saints do remind me of Peterson. Both are big and good in run support. I think Peterson might be faster though and maybe alittle bigger.

 

[Avery]

Fairly is hands down the dirtiest player i've ever seen in College Football. This guy literally tries to hurt players on every play he's on the field and he will be a fine/penalty/suspension machine in the NFL. I despise him and want the Boys to have nothing to do with him.

He's nasty for sure. Personally, he will get his arse beat in if he tries to do some of that in the NFL.

If you want a safety, the top of round two will see guys like Rahim Moore if he comes out, Deunta Williams or Quinton Carter.

 

[DIAF]

well i would love to have him on our team. We have too many choir boys helping other team players up. Its like we dont't want to hit somebody and talk trash. No we want to hug and get autographs

Except this guy deliberately tries to put helmets on knees, drills defenseless QBs in the back after the ball is gone for over 3 seconds, and picks people up and drives their shoulders into the ground. No thanks to this piece of human refuse. Personally I hope he gets what is coming to him in the Championship Game or at the next level. A blown knee on a chop block might teach him a lesson.

 

[realtick]

Malcom Jenkins has transitioned very nicely from a zone corner to safety
But he was selected at the end of the draft not top 10

Like it was mentioned, he was drafted at no. 14. He also dropped because he ran a rather pedestrian 40 time.

 

[realtick]

well i would love to have him on our team. We have too many choir boys helping other team players up. Its like we dont't want to hit somebody and talk trash. No we want to hug and get autographs

Me too. This team needs an edge Fairley is a great player and plays with a 'tude, we would do well to draft him in the right scenerio.

 

[btcutter]

I think any one of those players is a fit.

My gut tells me Peterson could make the move to safety without much issue.

I don't like to spend a top 10 pick and move him to another position. CB is much more of a premium than FS. I am not sure I would draft FS in the top 10 unless it's someone like Ronnie Lott.

Spencer obviously under performed like many of his defensive mates. However, given that he HAD produced, I believe he just needs a good DC to maximize skills.

My bigger concern on the front 7 is NT and MLB positions. MLBs are slow and it makes your defense look slow. If Lee can stay healthy and start then ILBs would be lesser of a need. DT is a huge need. We get pushed around way too much and don't generate enough of an interior presence. Ratliff is good but he wears down and can be pushes around. I hope Brent can put on another 20 lbs of muscle and play well at 330-340.

 

[realtick]

I don't like to spend a top 10 pick and move him to another position. CB is much more of a premium than FS. I am not sure I would draft FS in the top 10 unless it's someone like Ronnie Lott.

Spencer obviously under performed like many of his defensive mates. However, given that he HAD produced, I believe he just needs a good DC to maximize skills.

My bigger concern on the front 7 is NT and MLB positions. MLBs are slow and it makes your defense look slow. If Lee can stay healthy and start then ILBs would be lesser of a need. DT is a huge need. We get pushed around way too much and don't generate enough of an interior presence. Ratliff is good but he wears down and can be pushes around. I hope Brent can put on another 20 lbs of muscle and play well at 330-340.

It's likely to happen if we draft guys like Quinn, Peterson or Fairley in the Top 10; Quinn (DE to OLB), Peterson (I'm not sold we would switch him to safety at all...), Fairley (4-3 to 3-4)...

All of the needs you brought up are legit, but the talent in the Top 10 aren't at those positions.

FWIW, Eric Berry was taken 5th overall and is having a great rookie season with the Chiefs. As is Earl Thomas (14th overall) with Seahawks. With more teams emphasizing the pass and incorporating 3/4 WR sets, the safety position has become vital again.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't like to spend a top 10 pick and move him to another position. CB is much more of a premium than FS. I am not sure I would draft FS in the top 10 unless it's someone like Ronnie Lott.

Spencer obviously under performed like many of his defensive mates. However, given that he HAD produced, I believe he just needs a good DC to maximize skills.

My bigger concern on the front 7 is NT and MLB positions. MLBs are slow and it makes your defense look slow. If Lee can stay healthy and start then ILBs would be lesser of a need. DT is a huge need. We get pushed around way too much and don't generate enough of an interior presence. Ratliff is good but he wears down and can be pushes around. I hope Brent can put on another 20 lbs of muscle and play well at 330-340.

Interestingly enough, Ronnie Lott was drafted by the 49ers (1st round - 8th overall pick) as a CB out of USC. He was moved to Safety because he could not play CB well enough in the NFL.

 

[realtick]

Interestingly enough, Ronnie Lott was drafted by the 49ers (1st round - 8th overall pick) as a CB out of USC. He was moved to Safety because he could not play CB well enough in the NFL.

Incorrect.

Ronnie Lott was a Pro-Bowler at cornerback (1981, '82, '83, '84), an All-Pro '81 & '83, and was 2nd in the Rookie of the Year Award, finishing behind Lawrence Taylor.

Lott made the successful switch to safety in '85 and continued collecting accolades at that position as well.

Interestingly enough, he was roughly the same size as Patrick Peterson.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Incorrect.

Ronnie Lott was a Pro-Bowler at cornerback (1981, '82, '83, '84), an All-Pro '81 & '83, and was 2nd in the Rookie of the Year Award, finishing behind Lawrence Taylor.

Lott made the successful switch to safety in '85 and continued collecting accolades at that position as well.

Interestingly enough, he was roughly the same size as Patrick Peterson.

I stand corrected. You are right, he did switch in 85 to FS and then again switched to Strong. Regardless, Ronnie Lott was not a great CB. I've even heard him say this himself. Much better suited to Safety then CB. I don't know if they are the same size roughly or otherwise. Coming out of USC, Ronnie Lott was a 6-0 200 pound DB. According to what I've seen published, Peterson is anywhere from 6-1 210 lbs to 6-1 220 lbs. Which is correct? I don't know.

 

[realtick]

I stand corrected. You are right, he did switch in 85 to FS and then again switched to Strong. Regardless, Ronnie Lott was not a great CB. I've even heard him say this himself. Much better suited to Safety then CB. I don't know if they are the same size roughly or otherwise. Coming out of USC, Ronnie Lott was a 6-0 200 pound DB. According to what I've seen published, Peterson is anywhere from 6-1 210 lbs to 6-1 220 lbs. Which is correct? I don't know.

Wait a minute.

Ronnie Lott made the Pro Bowl at cornerback in four straight seasons beginning his rookie season in '81. Long before the advent of Internet fan voting. Was selected as an All-Pro in '81 & '83

Had 7 interceptions and 3 TD returns (off INTs) his rookie season which was good enough to put him in 2nd to only Lawrence Taylor as Rookie of the Year...

And you're saying he wasn't a good corner?

I could care less what Lott may have said in some moment of humility, the reality was he was a good corner and the rest of the league viewed him that way.

 

[JBS]

Wait a minute.

Ronnie Lott made the Pro Bowl at cornerback in four straight seasons beginning his rookie season in '81. Long before the advent of Internet fan voting. Was selected as an All-Pro in '81 & '83

Had 7 interceptions and 3 TD returns (off INTs) his rookie season which was good enough to put him in 2nd to only Lawrence Taylor as Rookie of the Year...

And you're saying he wasn't a good corner?

I could care less what Lott may have said in some moment of humility, the reality was he was a good corner and the rest of the league viewed him that way.

Why did he move to Safety after being so productive? Not saying you are wrong, just asking because I don't know.

 

[realtick]

Why did he move to Safety after being so productive? Not saying you are wrong, just asking because I don't know.

From what I've gathered from hearing him in past speak on the local radio station here in Bay Area (KNBR), Lott has alluded to the fact the coaches trusted him because he was an extremely intelligent player; a true QB of the defense.

 

[Nirvana]

If Quinn drops to us, you have to take that guy.6-5 265 pnds and sub 4.4 40 speed and extremely strong.
He is next D Ware.
You tube is your friend.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/425166-robert-quinn-the-monster-off-the-edge

Fun fact: His favorite team is the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[realtick]

If Quinn drops to us, you have to take that guy.6-5 265 pnds and sub 4.4 40 speed and extremely strong.
He is next D Ware.
You tube is your friend.

Sub 4.4? Lol, c'mon.