A lesson learned from Jimmy circa 1991?

[john van brocklin]

Troy was the unquestioned starter and had been the 1989 overall first round draft pick for the Cowboys
heading into the 1991 season.

During the season he hurt his knee and Steve Buerloin (sp) came in and lead the Cowboys on a long
winning streak.

Troy was healthy and ready to play, but Jimmy went with the hot hand and kept Troy on the bench.

Was Jerry paying attention ???

We will see !

 

[SAboys889]

Troy was the unquestioned starter and had been the 1989 overall first round draft pick for the Cowboys
heading into the 1991 season.

During the season he hurt his knee and Steve Buerloin (sp) came in and lead the Cowboys on a long
winning streak.

Troy was healthy and ready to play, but Jimmy went with the hot hand and kept Troy on the bench.

Was Jerry paying attention ???

We will see !

Hmm, doesn't seem like a great comparison. If Steve Beuerlien had won the super bowl in 1991, or won three in future years, then maybe I can see your point. I don't believe Jimmy was sold on Troy (or Smith as the rb), so that situation is completely different and they were both young qb's at the time.

I'm a huge Romo supporter and he and Irvin are the two players I'd love to meet someday.

However, if Dak plays well and beats GB and the Eagles, then I don't think they should make a change. If he plays poorly and they lose both games, then bring back Romo. If they go 1-1 and he plays decent, then I'll need to drink a bit before making that decision. Coaches will be ridiculed either way if things don't pan out.

 

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[john van brocklin]

The comparison I was trying to make is that you don't change QB's when the one you got is hot and the team is on a roll.

 

[CowboyChris]

isn't that the year we rode Beurlein into the playoffs, beat Chicago, and then put Aikman in only to get crushed by the Lions the next week?

 

[DandyDon52]

isn't that the year we rode Beurlein into the playoffs, beat Chicago, and then put Aikman in only to get crushed by the Lions the next week?

yes, Detroit was a good team that year, Buerlein was playing and getting beat so jimmy put aikman in and detroit won anyway.
Buerlein did good winning, but he didnt look like dak.

 

[CowboyChris]

I dont think Beurlein started that game if I remember correctly...i could be wrong

 

[DandyDon52]

The best comparisons are with brady replacing bledsoe, and bellichek had to decide go back to bledsoe, or stay with the rookie.
We all know how that worked out. And brady got hurt , bledsoe played the next game, a playoff game and won, then bellichek
put brady back in.

The other was Curt warner with the Rams, the main QB was Green? and he was hurt knee I think, so they had to go with this not rookie,
but unknown drifter who I think had been the # 3 in TC, and the # 2 got hurt, similar to kellen getting hurt, and then
curt played great and they won the SB.
Brady won the SB too,
And if they dont let dak finish, I will always think he would have led cowboys to the SB, and if they pull him for romo
they change history and they blow a chance at another SB victory.
And If Dak did take team to SB tony and witten would get rings.
And a ring like that for tony, is better than no ring at all.
Then they could let tony have 2017.

I Think they will put Tony back in, and insanely it is against philly, who has the or one of the best defenses in nfl right now.

If they pull Dak the mess up the whole wave of synergy going, and if tony gets hurt and they go back to dak, it wont be the same.
And if tony plays bad , they wont pull him , like some think, and if they do it is the same thing, the energy has been ruined,
and it wont be the same as it is now.

I feel like their is a little magic involved, magical energy, that carried brady and warner to their SB wins, and jerry is going to
throw that in the trashcan when he goes back to romo.
I think bret farve and others see this too, and that is why they say sit tony till daks magic fades, and if it doesnt , ride it all the way.

If you went to vegas and lost your "lucky dice", and got a new set to play around with, and you won roll after roll, and were winning big,
would you then go back to your other old lucky dice or stay with this new set of hot dice that was winning every time?
Most would stay with the new hot dice.

I also dont care what they are paying romo, he gets paid to play or be bkup, and I say let him be bkup, he earned the salary.
But what I dont like is lets put romo in he deserves a "chance" to win a SB, he is the better QB, blah blah blah.

Deserve has nothing to do with it, it is a team sport and the thing is to win as a team, not cater to one player.
The better QB is debatable, again it isnt about stats and # of passing td's it is about WINNING !

 

[john van brocklin]

isn't that the year we rode Beurlein into the playoffs, beat Chicago, and then put Aikman in only to get crushed by the Lions the next week?

I think Beurlein started, they were losing , and Troy came off the bench ?

 

[plymkr]

The best comparisons are with brady replacing bledsoe, and bellichek had to decide go back to bledsoe, or stay with the rookie.
We all know how that worked out. And brady got hurt , bledsoe played the next game, a playoff game and won, then bellichek
put brady back in.

The other was Curt warner with the Rams, the main QB was Green? and he was hurt knee I think, so they had to go with this not rookie,
but unknown drifter who I think had been the # 3 in TC, and the # 2 got hurt, similar to kellen getting hurt, and then
curt played great and they won the SB.
Brady won the SB too,
And if they dont let dak finish, I will always think he would have led cowboys to the SB, and if they pull him for romo
they change history and they blow a chance at another SB victory.
And If Dak did take team to SB tony and witten would get rings.
And a ring like that for tony, is better than no ring at all.
Then they could let tony have 2017.

I Think they will put Tony back in, and insanely it is against philly, who has the or one of the best defenses in nfl right now.

If they pull Dak the mess up the whole wave of synergy going, and if tony gets hurt and they go back to dak, it wont be the same.
And if tony plays bad , they wont pull him , like some think, and if they do it is the same thing, the energy has been ruined,
and it wont be the same as it is now.

I feel like their is a little magic involved, magical energy, that carried brady and warner to their SB wins, and jerry is going to
throw that in the trashcan when he goes back to romo.
I think bret farve and others see this too, and that is why they say sit tony till daks magic fades, and if it doesnt , ride it all the way.

If you went to vegas and lost your "lucky dice", and got a new set to play around with, and you won roll after roll, and were winning big,
would you then go back to your other old lucky dice or stay with this new set of hot dice that was winning every time?
Most would stay with the new hot dice.

I also dont care what they are paying romo, he gets paid to play or be bkup, and I say let him be bkup, he earned the salary.
But what I dont like is lets put romo in he deserves a "chance" to win a SB, he is the better QB, blah blah blah.

Deserve has nothing to do with it, it is a team sport and the thing is to win as a team, not cater to one player.
The better QB is debatable, again it isnt about stats and # of passing td's it is about WINNING !

I would agree with everything you said if this was a decision to start Romo in the playoffs after Dak went 14-2 or 13-3. I think we're too early for this decision. Here's why, let's say Romo comes in against Philly or Cleveland and doesn't give up the starting job and we do whatever the rest of the season I feel that would be better for Dak's magic. One scenario I do not want to have happen is Dak being benched for Romo due to his play. So I'd rather have Dak lose his starting job to Romo because Romo is returning from injury then Dak playing poorly and the Dak's magic fades and then we put in Romo and limp into the playoffs.

I want Dak to go into the offseason believing he's the man, what I don't want is our young QB going into the offseason after being benched because he played poorly. You mentioned the "Dak's Magic" and that's a perfect way to describe what Dak is doing. I don't want that magic to fade and then he's benched. I want the Dak Magic going as far and as long as possible. Romo had the magic in 2006 and that fumbled snap started the media against him and labeled him a choker. I would have rather not made the playoffs that year then go out like that and have the play on Romo's psyche. I don't want anything like that to happen to Dak.

But if we were starting the playoffs Sunday and had to decide between bringing Romo of the bench because he's finally healed or go with Dak then I'd be all about Dak. But with half the season left, I'd like to see Dak go onto the bench 6-1 or 5-2 and still have the magic feel to him then risk Dak hit a dry streak play bad and lose confidence going into the offseason and future seasons.

 

[DandyDon52]

I would agree with everything you said if this was a decision to start Romo in the playoffs after Dak went 14-2 or 13-3. I think we're too early for this decision. Here's why, let's say Romo comes in against Philly or Cleveland and doesn't give up the starting job and we do whatever the rest of the season I feel that would be better for Dak's magic. One scenario I do not want to have happen is Dak being benched for Romo due to his play. So I'd rather have Dak lose his starting job to Romo because Romo is returning from injury then Dak playing poorly and the Dak's magic fades and then we put in Romo and limp into the playoffs.

I want Dak to go into the offseason believing he's the man, what I don't want is our young QB going into the offseason after being benched because he played poorly. You mentioned the "Dak's Magic" and that's a perfect way to describe what Dak is doing. I don't want that magic to fade and then he's benched. I want the Dak Magic going as far and as long as possible. Romo had the magic in 2006 and that fumbled snap started the media against him and labeled him a choker. I would have rather not made the playoffs that year then go out like that and have the play on Romo's psyche. I don't want anything like that to happen to Dak.

But if we were starting the playoffs Sunday and had to decide between bringing Romo of the bench because he's finally healed or go with Dak then I'd be all about Dak. But with half the season left, I'd like to see Dak go onto the bench 6-1 or 5-2 and still have the magic feel to him then risk Dak hit a dry streak play bad and lose confidence going into the offseason and future seasons.

I see what your saying , but only dak knows how he really feels about being pulled and when.
If he gets pulled, and he thinks he could have gone all the way, it will have a negative effect.
The other thing is depending on how Romo plays , and if he stays healthy, Romo may be the starter next season too.
So after a year and 1/2 or longer they then go with dak, it might not be the same, and for sure the magic will be gone.
He may still play good, but it wont be the same as if he was allowed to finish this year.

The Romo fumble, in 2006, is part of Romo's bad luck it seems to follow him.
Dak seems to have good luck, and that helps.

About dak playing poorly, he wont play poorly as long as he keeps playing, if they pull him after that I dont know.

 

[rpntex]

Troy was the unquestioned starter and had been the 1989 overall first round draft pick for the Cowboys
heading into the 1991 season.

During the season he hurt his knee and Steve Buerloin (sp) came in and lead the Cowboys on a long
winning streak.

Troy was healthy and ready to play, but Jimmy went with the hot hand and kept Troy on the bench.

Was Jerry paying attention ???

We will see !

Bad comparison. Troy gor hurt in week 11, and Buerlein came in and won five straight. The first game Troy was cleared to play was the first playoff game. If Troy had been hurt in week 1, or the preseason, and Buerlein had played weeks 2-6, Troy would have gone back in when healthy.

Now put that scenario in play here. If Dak comes in during week 12, plays well, and Tony is declared healthy for the playoffs, you'd still roll with Dak.

Timing makes a huge difference.

 

[plymkr]

I see what your saying , but only dak knows how he really feels about being pulled and when.
If he gets pulled, and he thinks he could have gone all the way, it will have a negative effect.
The other thing is depending on how Romo plays , and if he stays healthy, Romo may be the starter next season too.
So after a year and 1/2 or longer they then go with dak, it might not be the same, and for sure the magic will be gone.
He may still play good, but it wont be the same as if he was allowed to finish this year.

The Romo fumble, in 2006, is part of Romo's bad luck it seems to follow him.
Dak seems to have good luck, and that helps.

About dak playing poorly, he wont play poorly as long as he keeps playing, if they pull him after that I dont know.

Yeah I see what you're saying. I'm glad I personally don't have to make this decision. A lot is riding on it.

 

[Clove]

Bad comparison because none of those guys were injury prone and old.