A question I have, regarding "credit"

[Nav22]

We're 30-14 in the regular season since 2007.

Despite the 0 playoff wins, that regular season record indicates we have a pretty good team.

A team that has disappointed, sure. A team that hasn't "won when it counts". But a pretty good team nonetheless. You can't argue that a team isn't "pretty good" when they're winning 68.2% of its games. You just can't.

So who gets the credit?

Can't be Jerry. He's an idiot. Not a football guy. Can't evaluate talent. Makes horrible personnel move after horrible personnel move. His craving of the spotlight is a huge distraction.

Can't be Wade. He's an idiot. A fat, jolly idiot. A bumpkin with no ability to lead men against the "fire and brimstone" coaches on the opposite sideline.

Can't be Garrett. He's an idiot. Can't call plays. Can't design a real offense. Refuses to run the ball.

Can't be Romo. He sucks. Oh, and he's an idiot. Not a leader. Throws too many picks. Doesn't have his head in the game. Smiles too much. Still has the ability to live a "pretty good life" despite experiencing the tragedy of *GASP* losing a football game.

It's a miracle we've won even ONE game these last 3 years. Every Valley Ranch employee is a sucky idiot.

 

[Cochese]

does it matter?

 

[utrunner07]

blah blah blah...you go ahead and write on home with your regular season record...hang your hat on that...::

We are a slightly above average team, Jerry is ok as an evaluator of talent (not at HC though), Wade is an ok HC, Garrett, is an ok OC, Romo is doing very well here of late...

They are all simply ok-good (with the exception of Romo), nice for the regular season, but when the pressure gets turned up and teams start to play hard and things start to matter, this team can not step it up.

 

[CF74]

The fans of course.

 

[Jimz31]

I'll play along....

"Don't you know that we are winning IN SPITE OF the deficiencies of who owns the team, who's running the D and who is calling the plays?"

 

[Nav22]

blah blah blah...you go ahead and write on home with your regular season record...hang your hat on that...::

So nobody gets the credit, and we've totally sucked since 2007. We've been the Raiders. Got it.

 

[utrunner07]

So nobody gets the credit, and we've totally sucked since 2007. We've been the Raiders. Got it.

Credit for what? A good regular season record? Ok.

We are a slightly above average team, Jerry is ok as an evaluator of talent (not at HC though), Wade is an ok HC, Garrett, is an ok OC, Romo is doing very well here of late...all are incredibly inconsistent (though Romo has made huge strides as of late) and in the end its the inconsistency that gets us, great teams, teams that have success in the supper bowl are consistent game in and game out in December, January when it counts.

They are all simply ok-good (with the exception of Romo), nice for the regular season, but when the pressure gets turned up and teams start to play hard and things start to matter, this team can not step it up.

But guess what...30-14 over the past 3 years or so...might as well have been 15-33. Unless of course there is a championship for the best regular season record (which we still would not win).

Its not a coincidence what happens to this team every year in December.

But go ahead, be thrilled with the regular season, might as well, Im afraid thats all we are going to have again.

 

[RainMan]

So nobody gets the credit, and we've totally sucked since 2007. We've been the Raiders. Got it.

You have to be a simpleton to pretend that all the people you listed never do anything right. And, yes, I know we have a few of those around these parts.

My quick-hitting analysis of the people you listed (Jones, Phillips, Garrett and Romo):

Jerry Jones: Has done a much better job in the personnel department in the post-Parcells era than in the pre-Parcells era. Not even comparable, really. I also think he's been better about occasionally taking a backseat and not forcing things onto the head coach. Sure, he still oversteps the boundaries of the traditional owner, but it's not as bad as it was during, say, the Campo era. My criticism would be that I think his overall philosophy -- ie build around the players, not the system -- is fundamentally flawed. Talent is undeniably important, but I think you need a philosophy in place first. We had that with Parcells, and it never quite worked out, but I would have liked to continue going in that direction. I don't think Phillips brings this.

Wade Phillips: His defense had made huge strides before this week's setback. His regular-season record is tremendous, but his career playoff record (0-4) will forever haunt him until he notches a few postseason wins. Like it or not, that's the way it is for a 60-something-year-old head coach who has been in the league as long as he has. I think he's a pretty impressive early-season coach, but I think his laid-back approach hurts us in December. Granted, we were a bad December team before he got here; but he's also been a bad December coach elsewhere.

I'm a fan of a coach who preaches paying attention to the little things, fretting over every minute thing that could have been executed better (even in wins), isn't easily satisfied and doesn't embrace excuses. I think Wade's a quality coach, but I think his philosophies generally oppose those of the "greats" and will forever limit his playoff successes.

Jason Garrett: I don't think he hurts us nearly as much as people would have you believe, but I'm also not convinced he's all that of an asset. We have had one of the best offensive cores since he's been here, so I don't know how much is him. I think he's too pass happy, but it is a passing league and I don't want a balanced, 50-50 run/pass ratio. I'd prefer he not forget about the run as easily as he does, but the "He passed 59 times!!" argument is overrated. I actually thought he called one of his better games against New York. I loved the way we used Miles and Roy, not to mention Witten.

Tony Romo: The criticisms of this guy are the most absurd. So he's 0-2 in the playoffs. Yeah, that has to change at some point, but you're absolutely insane if you want to cast aside a quarterback who is putting the kind of skins on the wall he is just because he has failed in two playoff games. If he's 0-4 in a few years, then it might be time to worry. Until then, it's a classic case of a guy who hasn't won a playoff game as opposed to a guy who can't.

 

[RainMan]

Credit for what? A good regular season record? Ok.

We are a slightly above average team, Jerry is ok as an evaluator of talent (not at HC though), Wade is an ok HC, Garrett, is an ok OC, Romo is doing very well here of late...all are incredibly inconsistent (though Romo has made huge strides as of late) and in the end its the inconsistency that gets us, great teams, teams that have success in the supper bowl are consistent game in and game out in December, January when it counts.

They are all simply ok-good (with the exception of Romo), nice for the regular season, but when the pressure gets turned up and teams start to play hard and things start to matter, this team can not step it up.

But guess what...30-14 over the past 3 years or so...might as well have been 15-33. Unless of course there is a championship for the best regular season record (which we still would not win).

Its not a coincidence what happens to this team every year in December.

But go ahead, be thrilled with the regular season, might as well, Im afraid thats all we are going to have again.

Our inability to close seasons is maddening, but there's no way anyone will ever convince me that 30-14 with no playoff wins is no matter than 15-33. I know Super Bowls are the only measuring stick for success here, and that everything else is failure. But it's not as if all failures are equal, if you know what I'm saying.

I also don't know that 30-14 is "slightly above average," given that 22-22 would, by definition, be average.

 

[Nav22]

all are incredibly inconsistent (though Romo has made huge strides as of late) and in the end its the inconsistency that gets us, great teams, teams that have success in the supper bowl are consistent game in and game out in December, January when it counts.

Understand that I'm not excusing our short-comings when I say this. But there is no such thing as a "consistent" team in the NFL.

Did you happen to catch the Patriots laying an egg in Miami Sunday? Or the Saints needing Washington to miss a 23 yard FG AND needing a long TD pass just to force OT? How 'bout the Steelers losing at home to Oakland? Or the Vikings laying an egg in Arizona?

And that was just Week 13! Guess we're not the only team "choking in December", eh?

Welcome to the NFL. "Consistency" is dead. The most consistent team we've had in recent years was the 2007 Patriots, and even they weren't quite "consistent" enough in the end, now were they?

They are all simply ok-good (with the exception of Romo), nice for the regular season, but when the pressure gets turned up and teams start to play hard and things start to matter, this team can not step it up.

You're a frustrated fan. I understand the hyperbole. But it's still hyperbole. Dallas has won plenty of games that "mattered" in the last few years. Or do you really believe the Eagles weren't "playing hard" when we beat them at the Linc this year?

But guess what...30-14 over the past 3 years or so...might as well have been 15-33.

30-14 means you have a good team that has a chance. 15-33 means you have a bad team that doesn't have a chance.

If you don't see the difference there, I can't help you. And call me crazy, but I like it when my team's good enough to have a chance at the end. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, so believe me... not every NFL fan has that luxury.

Its not a coincidence what happens to this team every year in December.

I'm hearing a lot of complaining about the December problems, but not many solutions. You know we struggled in December back when we had a disciplinarian running the show too, right?

So what's your solution? Blow the whole thing up and try again? You know the Cardinals lost 3 of their last 4 regular season games before coming inches away from a Super Bowl win last year, right?

There's no formula for a Super Bowl win in 2009. Get to the playoffs and start playing your best football. That's the "formula".

RainMan: two outstanding posts.

 

[zrinkill]

We're 30-14 in the regular season since 2007.

Despite the 0 playoff wins, that regular season record indicates we have a pretty good team.

A team that has disappointed, sure. A team that hasn't "won when it counts". But a pretty good team nonetheless. You can't argue that a team isn't "pretty good" when they're winning 68.2% of its games. You just can't.

So who gets the credit?

Can't be Jerry. He's an idiot. Not a football guy. Can't evaluate talent. Makes horrible personnel move after horrible personnel move. His craving of the spotlight is a huge distraction.

Can't be Wade. He's an idiot. A fat, jolly idiot. A bumpkin with no ability to lead men against the "fire and brimstone" coaches on the opposite sideline.

Can't be Garrett. He's an idiot. Can't call plays. Can't design a real offense. Refuses to run the ball.

Can't be Romo. He sucks. Oh, and he's an idiot. Not a leader. Throws too many picks. Doesn't have his head in the game. Smiles too much. Still has the ability to live a "pretty good life" despite experiencing the tragedy of *GASP* losing a football game.

It's a miracle we've won even ONE game these last 3 years. Every Valley Ranch employee is a sucky idiot.

Post of the Day .... You can tell by the responses that it was spot on.

 

[Doomsday101]

When Dallas was wallowing around at 5-11 we sucked, we currently have a team who can compete at a high level. The 13 years of disappointments should not be on their shoulders they had nothing to do with it. This current group of core players need to get over the hump no doubt about it but they are a good team.

 

[xWraithx]

pretty easy to answer this...

Wade gets credit for building a pretty good regular season team that doesn't have the focus and mentality to play mistake-free (or close to it) football when it matters most (December and the playoffs) and ultimately (as everyone here knows) is when our team fails.

 

[Hoofbite]

I'd say this is a question best left to Slate.

 

[craig71]

pretty easy to answer this...

Wade gets credit for building a pretty good regular season team that doesn't have the focus and mentality to play mistake-free (or close to it) football when it matters most (December and the playoffs) and ultimately (as everyone here knows) is when our team fails.

I think you are right.

The lack of focus and the good is good enough attitude are what hurts this team the most.I think alot of it comes from Wade and his refusal to preach attention to detail.

Craig