A thought about our great punting.

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Just over at BTB.com and reading OCC's post regarding our special teams. One thing that's been bugging me a bit is how much folks love to say we were great at downing punts inside the 20.

To me, that's disgusting. Yes its a huge deal if you are punting and creating a short field. It's another thing entirely if you look at your offense chewing up yards like crazy and then punting a short field instead of getting another 15 yards and attempting the field goal.

Example, and it's just only that. McBriar's average net punt was something like 40 yards, but he has a great number of those downed inside the 20. That return man is inside the 20, 15, or 10 yard line waving for the fair catch. Point being, our offense might just have chewed up 35 yards of the field and our empty victory of the drive is a good net punt average and downed ball at the 14?

I love the field position battle and hidden yardage, but think in our case there is a problem with throwing petals at the feet of McBriar when the offense was 30-45 feet from attempting points.
 

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I don't believe thats McBriars fault, so long may the petal throwing continue.
 

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Instead of trying to kick field goals between 45-49 yds, we should just go for it.
 

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CowboyFan74;3275736 said:
Instead of trying to kick field goals between 45-49 yds, we should just go for it.

I'd rather get a kicker who makes the kicks between 45-49 a high precentage of the time, those 3's add up which is why most every team will take them when their drive stalls
 

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Doomsday101;3275745 said:
I'd rather get a kicker who makes the kicks between 45-49 a high precentage of the time, those 3's add up which is why most every team will take them when their drive stalls

Sure, as long as the guy has a high percentage of success. Kicking that far with Suishank was dumb...
 

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Doomsday101;3275745 said:
I'd rather get a kicker who makes the kicks between 45-49 a high precentage of the time, those 3's add up which is why most every team will take them when their drive stalls

Ditto. Pretty much a no-brainer here.
 

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CowboyFan74;3275809 said:
Sure, as long as the guy has a high percentage of success. Kicking that far with Suishank was dumb...

He just missed it, had plenty of distance but slid outside.I don't think it was a bad call. For the record I would not have question going for it either. I clearly understand wanting to put up points early on in a game.
 

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A 40 yard punt that is fair caught at the 10 means the lines of scrimmage was at the 50 yard line. Gain 15 more yards(or a mere 45 feet) to put the ball at the 35 yard line and that creates a 52 yard FG attempt. Those aren't gimmees.
 

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SaltwaterServr;3275307 said:
Just over at BTB.com and reading OCC's post regarding our special teams. One thing that's been bugging me a bit is how much folks love to say we were great at downing punts inside the 20.

To me, that's disgusting. Yes its a huge deal if you are punting and creating a short field. It's another thing entirely if you look at your offense chewing up yards like crazy and then punting a short field instead of getting another 15 yards and attempting the field goal.

Example, and it's just only that. McBriar's average net punt was something like 40 yards, but he has a great number of those downed inside the 20. That return man is inside the 20, 15, or 10 yard line waving for the fair catch. Point being, our offense might just have chewed up 35 yards of the field and our empty victory of the drive is a good net punt average and downed ball at the 14?

I love the field position battle and hidden yardage, but think in our case there is a problem with throwing petals at the feet of McBriar when the offense was 30-45 feet from attempting points.


IS your complaint with McBriar doing a good job or the team not getting an easy first down to keep teh chains moving?

Getting McBriar to make those punts and our ST play keeping the offense pinned down like that says a lot about Coach D's ST work. I think except for kicker he did a fine job his first year compared to last year.
 
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SaltwaterServr;3275307 said:
Just over at BTB.com and reading OCC's post regarding our special teams. One thing that's been bugging me a bit is how much folks love to say we were great at downing punts inside the 20.

To me, that's disgusting. Yes its a huge deal if you are punting and creating a short field. It's another thing entirely if you look at your offense chewing up yards like crazy and then punting a short field instead of getting another 15 yards and attempting the field goal.

Example, and it's just only that. McBriar's average net punt was something like 40 yards, but he has a great number of those downed inside the 20. That return man is inside the 20, 15, or 10 yard line waving for the fair catch. Point being, our offense might just have chewed up 35 yards of the field and our empty victory of the drive is a good net punt average and downed ball at the 14?

I love the field position battle and hidden yardage, but think in our case there is a problem with throwing petals at the feet of McBriar when the offense was 30-45 feet from attempting points.

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I'm not seeing your point. Is it that instead of commending McBriar for a job well done we should be criticizing the offense for not keeping him off the field in the first place?

If so, I'd have to agree with that; 2nd in the NFL in yards per game but only 14th in scoring. That has to improve.
 

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The Dodger;3275953 said:
I'm not seeing your point. Is it that instead of commending McBriar for a job well done we should be criticizing the offense for not keeping him off the field in the first place?

If so, I'd have to agree with that; 2nd in the NFL in yards per game but only 14th in scoring. That has to improve.

It does. Dallas also finished 21st in number of punts attempted, which shows that their scoring failures weren't always resulting in punts by McBriar.
 

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joseephuss;3275960 said:
It does. Dallas also finished 21st in number of punts attempted, which shows that their scoring failures weren't always resulting in punts by McBriar.


Sounds like we were attempting to many field goals with spotty kickers...
 
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