A Thread of Hope for All Cowboys Fans

[Chuck 54]

Maybe this move is to guarantee ourselves the #1 pick and Arch Manning next year.

Schottenheimer’s hire makes a lot more sense when looked at under the context that we want to lose games.

I hope not. Manning hasn’t even won a starting job in college yet.

 

[kskboys]

Happy fans and fans that hope for the best and don't quit, before the season even starts. I can't do anything about BS other than hope he surprises us and delivers. I suppose I could throw a tantrum, and while part of me wants to, I won't...that's not me anymore....I find it to be more fun and tolerable this way. It's not for everyone, but it works for me. Can't wait to wake up tomorrow to a few JJ hate threads....good reading on the throne! Lol

Make sure to toss some doughnuts in the pot so the little Jerry's you're dropping off don't drown!!!!!!

 

[Chuck 54]

Doesn’t matter.

The front office refuses to give the staff the players they need to succeed.

Until that happens, failure is the destiny. At least TRYING to win is a simple decision.

That was the whole point of the OP?

 

[TINGS21]

In any major decision, the process is more important than the result because if your process is right you are going to get results even if you dont this time but if the process is wrong then it is very very unlikely you will be successful

I have no idea if Schotty will be successful but i know for certain that the process is garbage

interviewing some of the top candidates and even Deion would have went a long way. But here we are

 

[ShiningStar]

Because that's about how long we're going to suck

what was the last 30 years?

 

[_sturt_]

mismanaging of the McCarthy situation

I'm not automatically critical of Jerry like the vast, vast, vast majority of Cowboys fans tend to be. And even here, I'm not so much critical of Jerry alone, but Stephen as well.

It feels like there was some inclination that, "If we talk about football-related things first, then that sets us up to have a conversation about what an extension should look like, and we can get Mike to take the deal we want to give him. He's going to come face to face with some of the major concerns we have, and that's going to limit his hubris, and we'll be able to persuade him that our shorter term contract is reasonable."

If I'm right about that... and I might not be, but that generally correlates with conventional wisdom, I think... that was short-sighted... stating the obvious.

However... I absolutely recoil at these suggestions that it actually ended up affecting the new hiring process in any tangible way. I think those taking those shots are just Jerry haters, and not all that interested to accommodate the facts of the context. Ben Johnson? Clearly, there was never any question in his mind that he wanted to be in CHI. Now maybe you could have gotten Aaron Glenn to be somewhat interested, but his situation played out similarly to Johnson's, and is indicative of a guy who already had mapped out which job opening he most coveted, and it wasn't here.

So, that much is illegitimate to criticize... Joneses never really stood much of a chance based on what we saw play out. Both guys made a bee line to their preferred cities, and didn't even act like they wanted to see an auction develop for their services.

To the contrary... there really wasn't anyone else worthy of high regard that wasn't going to have to be waited for, due to NFL rules... to my point then, Joneses didn't lose out on anyone that they plausibly could have had. Pete Carroll? Reportedly, Jerry talked with him. He wasn't hired yet. Had there been some great enthusiasm to pursue Carroll, that could have happened at any point until this morning. Again... didn't lose out on anyone they plausibly could have had.

So, no, really the only thing that was lost by how they managed the McCarthy situation was... they lost McCarthy. Just that. Only that. Nothing else. That is a big deal. But it's not so all-encompassing as others have been making it out.

 

[ShortRound]

No one is excited about Schottenheimer, but I do like the Eberflus hire for DC. I recall him as one of our best position coaches, and some fans wanted him promoted prior to him getting the head coaching job in Chicago. Maybe this is a glimmer of hope.

My greatest hope? Considering the words Jerry chose to introduce his new coach, “Brian Schottenheimer is known as a career assistant … He ain’t Brian no more. He is now known as the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys,” I would say Jerry was much more defiant than complimentary. My hope is that after all the criticism in the media for his destruction of the 2024 roster by his inactivity and neglect, along with the even greater criticism of his mismanaging of the McCarthy situation which led to missing out on even interviewing all the top candidates who were interviewed while he twiddled his thumbs, maybe, JUST MAYBE, Jerry will be so determined to prove himself right and everyone else wrong, that he will step up quickly and make some of the moves that will create more CAP room than he would ever spend, and he will actually be more active in free agency, at least with second and third tier free agents, that several of our needs and depth will be addressed and set so that we can draft playmakers early at WR, RB, and DL.

Cross your fingers and hope Jerry’s stubbornness, arrogance, and pride will cause him to act out of character to try and prove himself correct. We all know the value of a good coach, but I think we also know that our biggest problem has been the guy building the roster (or not building it) than who was coaching.

We want it all, but what is really the fastest road to improvement? The head coach with Jerry doing what he always does, or Jerry stepping up and bringing in better players in free agency, even role players so that we can draft real playmakers instead of trying to fill all the holes.

I‘ll take better players and a more balanced team (offense that runs and passes; defense that can stop the run and play the pass) over any new coach.

 

[zerofill]

Any players that actually care about winning... I suggest you try and get released somehow.

 

[zerofill]

Lucky for me... I don't see any hope anymore. This franchise is just done.

 

[ShortRound]

Lucky for me... I don't see any hope anymore. This franchise is just done.

4yr contract ... 86 yrs old

 

[_sturt_]

Maybe the players are more important than the coach.

 

[Bobhaze]

Oh I was hoping for a press conference announcing the sale of the team.

 

[kskboys]

what was the last 30 years?

Thin k Campo years. In that era we were dogged by a huge lack of talent and no 1st round draft picks. In this one we'll be haunted by a lack of talent and overpaid contracts.

 

[Starforever]

Maybe this move is to guarantee ourselves the #1 pick and Arch Manning next year.

Schottenheimer’s hire makes a lot more sense when looked at under the context that we want to lose games.

What's so special about Arch Manning?

 

[zerofill]

Oh I was hoping for a press conference announcing the sale of the team.

I wish they would find something that forced him to sell the team.

 

[visionary]

posted in Shottenheimer thread…..

For the fans on here who are always saying 12 win seasons mean nothing without playoff wins, the logical question would be, “Can he be any worse than what we’ve seen from every coach since Barry Switzer?”

• Chan Gailey and Bill Parcells were both 0-2 in postseason games
• McCarthy was 1-3 in the postseason during his record three 12 win seasons in a row
• Wade Phillips was 1-2 in the postseason despite having the #1 NFC seed one year
• Jason Garrett is the big winner, going 2-3 over most of a decade.

Yet the coach we love to make fun of, Barry Switzer went 5-2 in his first two seasons as coach.

Maybe the players are more important than the coach.

Yeah but we dont have the players on this team
This team is led by a cliche spouting average QB paid like an elite QB and a podcasting media ***** LB pretending to be a DE
Next season will be a disaster

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

But why four years, then? That's a long-term commitment.

Longer than he was willing to give MM.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

If we were your family we'd stage an intervention for you stat.

 

[Cowboys5217]

posted in Shottenheimer thread…..

For the fans on here who are always saying 12 win seasons mean nothing without playoff wins, the logical question would be, “Can he be any worse than what we’ve seen from every coach since Barry Switzer?”

• Chan Gailey and Bill Parcells were both 0-2 in postseason games
• McCarthy was 1-3 in the postseason during his record three 12 win seasons in a row
• Wade Phillips was 1-2 in the postseason despite having the #1 NFC seed one year
• Jason Garrett is the big winner, going 2-3 over most of a decade.

Yet the coach we love to make fun of, Barry Switzer went 5-2 in his first two seasons as coach.

Maybe the players are more important than the coach.

Yeah, and why did he have that record? Think hard... it was Jimmy's team with Aikman coaching from the huddle.

 

[MikeT22]

But why four years, then? That's a long-term commitment.

Four years is because thats how long we are stuck with Dak. With wont draft a QB early in the next few years.