A Tip of My Cowboys Cap to Commanders Great George Allen

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Yeah, no kidding.

I've been pondering the death of Jim Johnson of the Eagles a lot. Though I hate the Eagles I always truly respected him as a football coach. I think his blitz packages were among the absolute best I have ever seen. It is very rare for me to have that level of respect for a rival coach. No doubt about it, his Defenses owned us this decade. I tip my cap to you Coach Johnson. Rest in peace, sir.

Don't get me wrong, I respect almost all of the NFL coaches very much. Their jobs are nuts. But now and again, one coach or another rises above the rest in my level of respect.

Such it is with George Allen. I couldn't help but notice that his name is not in the thread among the 50 greatest coaches of all time. I am not saying he should be, because that is a great list, but for me there was something empty about that list because he was not there.

You see, no one, and I really mean no one, ever hated the Cowboys quite like George Allen. I respect that like you cannot even imagine.

George Allen made it vogue to get more amped up to play the Cowboys than any other team. He didn't just cajole his teams to beat the Cowboys he drove his teams. Even when they weren't playing Dallas he constantly talked about what it would take to beat them. Beating the Cowboys was more important to George Allen than winning a Super Bowl. That was the honest to Pete feeling around the NFL in the days of this rivalry.

Guys would come to the Commanders from another team (he was the originator of the get rid of all the Commanders Draft picks for aging veterans) and the first thing he taught them was to obsess about Dallas.

He came to the Commanders from the Rams and when he arrived he traded for some of his Rams players. The first thing they learned upon arriving in Washington, was how to hate the Cowboys. Deacon Jones was one of his Ramskins or Redrams. That was what they called the players who followed him from Los Angeles to DC. Hearing Deacon Jones talk about Allen's obsession with beating the Cowboys is pure entertainment. I wish I had a youtube clip of it.

In those days they called these aging veteran Commander teams, the Over-The-Hill Gang. They loved to parrot Allen's verbal tirades about the arrogance of the Cowboys and their fans. It spurred the hate and fanned the flames of the rivalry more than any other Coach in History.

No one could get inside Tom Landry's head like George Allen. Over the years people wondered if the two of them should just get in a knock down drag out fight. At times Landry was convinced that people at the Practices were spies for George Allen. He had people removed from the field. He imagined people hiding in trees and behind dark glass windows taking notes.

You look around at the thousands of fans watching practice today. That might have driven Landry nuts. If the Commanders were next on the schedule you can bet your shorts it would have.

You are probably asking yourself what this has to do with the Cowboys. I think a little bit of the spirit of George Allen creeped into the NFL in 2008. Once again it was en vogue to get amped up to play the arrogant ("we were 13-3," "the better team didn't win") Cowboys. Make no mistake about it either, the 2008 Cowboys were arrogant. They thought they could flip a switch at any time and be the best team in the NFL and no one could hang with them.

I don't know whether they couldn't find the switch or not, but I do know teams came out punching against us in 2008 like the old days under George Allen. The Cowboys got punched right in the mouth often. George Allen would have loved it.

Part of me does too.

I think pride is a tremendous motivator. This team has been systematically stripped of everything except their pride. Gone is the shroud of invincibility that pervaded the expectations of 2008. Gone is the belief in coaches here and productive players. In their places are questions of leadership, lame duck coaches, and can they live up to a stadium.

Part of me wonders what Jerry was smoking with the new stadium as motivation crap. Another part of me gets it. In 1971 the Cowboys christened the opening of Texas Stadium with their first Super Bowl. In 1971 they were a team coming back from being stripped of everything but their pride. The circumstances were different then, they lost the Super Bowl to a team they felt they were superior to because they kept turning over the ball and making stupid plays in crucial situations.

In 1971 the Cowboys came back with the lingering crown of "Next Year's Champs" firmly back on their heads after consecutive losses to Green Bay in earlier Championship games. They could not win the big one. They were "always the bridesmaid, never the bride."

No one bothered to tell that to the Doomsday Defense. They only rolled into Tulane Stadium in New Orleans pissed off at the world and they took it out on the Miami Dolphins. To get there they protected their own turf by winning all 5 of their games in the brand new Texas Stadium. In the playoffs they added a victory against a very powerful 49ers team. The new stadium became a a feared place for opposing teams to come to.

1971 was a huge year for the Cowboys. Helping the Cowboys create that pissed off attitude was the arrival in our Nation's Capital of a fireball football coach named George Allen. With him he brought the one ingredient the 1971 Cowboys really needed. He utterly despised them.

2009 will depend on a few things. One of them is how much this team is willing to fight for the pride they have left which has been so bruised. I can't help but think it would be easier to stand up to the punches in the mouth if there was a George Allen out there beating the drum.

I tip my hat to you Coach Allen. I didn't realize how much respect I actually had for you until pondering the death of Jim Johnson this week.

Here's hoping a little of the old George Allen hatred for the Cowboys pushes its way into this season and motivates this team the way the 1971 team was motivated.
 

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Nice read. I'm not old enough to have witnessed the craziness/hatred of George Allen for the Cowboys, but i sure do appreciate it.
 

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Great job Hos......Allen was a coach I hated but respected very much and he hated our Cowboys as much I we disliked him.......but, you have to respect these coaches.
 

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I remember the days of Allen and the rivalry, which just isn't the same anymore.

Nice post Hostile, I enjoyed that.

And by the way, for fans who lived through the 70's, was their any more hated Commanders player than Diron Talbot?
 

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Hip Hip Hooray!


JZ is no George Allen by any stretch, and the NFL now is not the NFL from those days (I was 5, we watched Commanders football every sunday, so I am sure Allen's hatred is in me to this day), but the NFC East and the division rivalries are part of what makes this game great.

And I agree Hos, true rivalries bring the beasts in both teams (when there is a beast to be brought out). I hope this next decade brings us back to the 80's when every team in the division was capable of going all the way, and the NFC Championship seemingly always went through the NFC East!
 

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ArmyCowboy;2861631 said:
I remember the days of Allen and the rivalry, which just isn't the same anymore.

Nice post Hostile, I enjoyed that.

And by the way, for fans who lived through the 70's, was their any more hated Commanders player than Diron Talbot?
Not for me there wasn't. We're talking about Cooley mocking Witten like it's some kind of true affront to the man. Diron Talbert hated Roger Staubach and he didn't care who knew it.
 

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I was pretty upset when Allen left the Rams and even more upset that he went to the Commanders. Then he went and traded for one former Ram after another and I began to really dislike him. Then he got the Commanders focused on hating the Cowboys and my hatred for the man grew in proportion to his for my Cowboys.

I couldn't stand his rah-rah stuff, his diatribe against all things pertaining to the Cowboys, and his holier-than-thou attitude about everything. All that said, he was a pretty good HC and got an awful lot out of players that everyone else had given up on.

Only 8 of the starting 22 guys in 1972 had been drafted by the Commanders. He took a bunch of has-beens and never-weres and brought them to the SB.

Although the Commanders never had a losing season under Allen they also never won anything outside of 1972. In fact Allen never had a losing season in his 12 years as a HC with the Rams & Commanders. His teams were 2-7 in the playoffs, with both wins coming in 1972.

I personally don't believe he belongs in the HoF or on the list of the 50 greatest coaches but he does have my respect for creating a great rivalry. His players sure loved playing for him though.
 

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Old lick (George Allen) was a heck of a coach and had no problem getting his team completely pumped up when facing the Cowboys. By the way I call him old lick because you could see Allen constantly licking his fingers on the side lines.
 

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I read a story about Allen somewhere (i can't remember where) that he refused to call one of his players by his first name because his first name was Dallas :laugh2:
 

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Doomsday101;2861696 said:
Old lick (George Allen) was a heck of a coach and had no problem getting his team completely pumped up when facing the Cowboys. By the way I call him old lick because you could see Allen constantly licking his fingers on the side lines.

He always reminded me a of a Third-base coach the way he would lick his fingers, touch his ears, his hat, his hair, lick his fingers again, etc. A very high-energy guy that's for sure.
 

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Doomsday101;2861696 said:
Old lick (George Allen) was a heck of a coach and had no problem getting his team completely pumped up when facing the Cowboys. By the way I call him old lick because you could see Allen constantly licking his fingers on the side lines.
Man, I had forgotten all about the licking.
 

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I only know of his hatred, and passion, through classic games footage, old interviews they show here and there, and what I read here. I wish I could have been around to really see the rivalry back then.
 

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Jimmy Johnson also belongs in that list of top-50 coaches of al ltime because he piggybacked off of his college championship accomplishments to build the greatest dynasty pro football had ever seen in the shortest amount of time during the 1990s.

No to take away the points about George Allen, but once you decide where to slot him in this list of 50, then let's at least place Jimmy Jonson some double-digits higher.

That is all :D
 

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ArmyCowboy;2861631 said:
I remember the days of Allen and the rivalry, which just isn't the same anymore.

Nice post Hostile, I enjoyed that.

And by the way, for fans who lived through the 70's, was their any more hated Commanders player than Diron Talbot?

Funny thing is he and his brother were friends of many Cowboy players during the off season and hung out with guys like Ditka. They also had reputation for getting out of control once trashing Ditka bar in Dallas where the 2 brothers got into a fight with some patrons. A lot of things player could get away with back then without the 24 hours news cycle we see today. :laugh2:
 

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Great post, and not because it is Commanders/Cowboys related. But because it is out of respect for the game, the coach, and the rivalry.

Allen was a coach that would bait his players and feed into their egos (kinda like Jimmy), but at the end of the day they all understood that it was his team and his plan.

Thanks Hos.
 

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Doomsday101;2861806 said:
Funny thing is he and his brother were friends of many Cowboy players during the off season and hung out with guys like Ditka. They also had reputation for getting out of control once trashing Ditka bar in Dallas where the 2 brothers got into a fight with some patrons. A lot of things player could get away with back then without the 24 hours news cycle we see today. :laugh2:

Was his brother Don Talbert? If so he played for the Cowboys in the early 60s and again in 1971. That might explain the friendship with the Dallas players.
 

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THUMPER;2861857 said:
Was his brother Don Talbert? If so he played for the Cowboys in the early 60s and again in 1971. That might explain the friendship with the Dallas players.

His brother was Don and they both went to the University of Texas so this was home for them. I think there are bonds that get formed in the league even today with players regardless if they play for a rival or not.
 

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Doomsday101;2861876 said:
His brother was Don and they both went to the University of Texas so this was home for them. I think there are bonds that get formed in the league even today with players regardless if they play for a rival or not.

Ah, a couple of UT boys, that would explain it a little more then.
 

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THUMPER;2861878 said:
Ah, a couple of UT boys, that would explain it a little more then.

I know from Walt Garrison's book these guys where a couple of wild characters
 
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