About Bill And Expectations

[gbrittain]

We know in the four years that Big Bill has been here the team's major accomplishments or lack thereof look like this:

10-6 1st season
6-10 2nd
9-7 3rd
9-7 4th

2 Playoff appearances and no wins

0 Division championships

34-32 overall record including playoffs

My question is this and try to answer all three honestly:

1. Do you think that the above accomplsihments have met Jerry Jones expectations?

2. Do you think that the above accomplishments have met Big Bill's own expectations?

3. Has Big Bill met your expectations?

For me the answer is no to all three questions. I clearly thought Dallas would be much better off at this point under BP's tenure.

I know that there are some who still want Big Bill around and I am kind of curious how those that want BP to stick around would answer those questions.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

We know in the four years that Big Bill has been here the team's major accomplishments or lack thereof look like this:

10-6 1st season
6-10 2nd
9-7 3rd
9-7 4th

2 Playoff appearances and no wins

0 Division championships

34-32 overall record including playoffs

My question is this and try to answer all three honestly:

1. Do you think that the above accomplsihments have met Jerry Jones expectations?

2. Do you think that the above accomplishments have met Big Bill's own expectations?

3. Has Big Bill met your expectations?

For me the answer is no to all three questions. I clearly thought Dallas would be much better off at this point under BP's tenure.

I know that there are some who still want Big Bill around and I am kind of curious how those that want BP to stick around would answer those questions.

I dont think you can really slam the 4 seasons together and do a year by year growth chart. We had a different QB every year. This team is probably the closest to what he really wants. Next year will be 2 solid years(for the most part with same unit)...

I dont view them as accomplishments or not... I view it as... we were rebuilding... because we were... Romo was being groomed while BP was using QB fillers.

 

[notherbob]

We know in the four years that Big Bill has been here the team's major accomplishments or lack thereof look like this:

10-6 1st season
6-10 2nd
9-7 3rd
9-7 4th

2 Playoff appearances and no wins

0 Division championships

34-32 overall record including playoffs

My question is this and try to answer all three honestly:

1. Do you think that the above accomplsihments have met Jerry Jones expectations?

2. Do you think that the above accomplishments have met Big Bill's own expectations?

3. Has Big Bill met your expectations?

For me the answer is no to all three questions. I clearly thought Dallas would be much better off at this point under BP's tenure.

I know that there are some who still want Big Bill around and I am kind of curious how those that want BP to stick around would answer those questions.

I agree with everything you say here, but I'm not ready to let BP go as I think the team continues to improve and next year should be stronger, especially in the lines, but they'll still be in the NFC East and will have their work cut out for them.

It's going to be a pretty interesting off-season.

 

[hank2k]

We know in the four years that Big Bill has been here the team's major accomplishments or lack thereof look like this:

10-6 1st season
6-10 2nd
9-7 3rd
9-7 4th

2 Playoff appearances and no wins

0 Division championships

34-32 overall record including playoffs

My question is this and try to answer all three honestly:

1. Do you think that the above accomplsihments have met Jerry Jones expectations?

2. Do you think that the above accomplishments have met Big Bill's own expectations?

3. Has Big Bill met your expectations?

For me the answer is no to all three questions. I clearly thought Dallas would be much better off at this point under BP's tenure.

I know that there are some who still want Big Bill around and I am kind of curious how those that want BP to stick around would answer those questions.

Parcells biggest mistake was in not blowing up the whole team when he 1st came in. He was too eager not to rock the boat and tell Jerry "what you have given me to work with is crap" that he tried to win with it .Im amazed how many "He's been here 4 years and what has he done?" guys never mention this fact. This is really only year 3 of doing things his way. He won with QCarter, THam, and a defense he didnt believe in his first year, but sticking with it in year 2 set us back . BTW ,the choice isnt between Parcells and some hot ,big name replacement. If Jerry forces Bill out he'll (Jerry)go back to running this team Al Davis style through some puppet and we're back to 5-11. Just watch.

 

[gbrittain]

I agree with everything you say here, but I'm not ready to let BP go as I think the team continues to improve and next year should be stronger, especially in the lines, but they'll still be in the NFC East and will have their work cut out for them.

It's going to be a pretty interesting off-season.

As critical of him as I have been, I would not feel as apprehensive about bringing Bill back if not for the fact he is pretty much a lame duck coach. I do not see him coming back for a sixth year regardless of any outcomes.

I just at this point do not see a whole lot of upside in bringing BP back for one more year. I also do not know what will make next year so different from this year.

 

[RoboQB]

I dont think you can really slam the 4 seasons together and do a year by year growth chart. We had a different QB every year. This team is probably the closest to what he really wants. Next year will be 2 solid years(for the most part with same unit)...

I dont view them as accomplishments or not... I view it as... we were rebuilding... because we were... Romo was being groomed while BP was using QB fillers.

I agree with YoMick. The first year they played a last place schedule (I think) and over-achieved. Then Quincy hit the bong and, suddenly, we had a 40 yr. old QB in Vinny. Then in comes Drew Bledsoe to save us. Only, he is not the gunslinging QB that he once was. (Also, Flo gets hurt and Drew spends the rest of the season becoming shell-shocked) Now, in 2006, Drew comes out looking at the pass rush instead of his 2nd route reads and it takes about a game or so too long for Bill to pull the plug. Of course, Bill probably realized that pulling Drew basically ended his career for him. (Drew will call Bill a year or so from now to thank him.) Anyway, in comes this Romo guy and next thing you know we are the hottest team in the NFC. Too much too soon. But now, his dues are paid. Hell, we went to the playoffs with a QB that was 3rd string at beginning of 2005. A new DC will do wonders for us next year. We will win the EAST and host at least one playoff game...and win!

Remember, Bill said he was building this team to be good for several years. Not some flash in the pan, fly by night, one or two year window of opportunity. Once we turn the corner, we will be good for a while. Look at New England. That is the blueprint.

However, we do need to find a man to groom quickly into becoming HC.

 

[kramskoi]

Parcells biggest mistake was in not blowing up the whole team when he 1st came in. He was too eager not to rock the boat and tell Jerry "what you have given me to work with is crap" that he tried to win with it .Im amazed how many "He's been here 4 years and what has he done?" guys never mention this fact. This is really only year 3 of doing things his way. He won with QCarter, THam, and a defense he didnt believe in his first year, but sticking with it in year 2 set us back . BTW ,the choice isnt between Parcells and some hot ,big name replacement. If Jerry forces Bill out he'll (Jerry)go back to running this team Al Davis style through some puppet and we're back to 5-11. Just watch.

well then at some point, given that Parcells won't coach forever in Dallas, we'll still be left with the meddling Jones...maybe this team has the wrong owner at the helm...eventually this team will have to move on without Bill, for better or worse...i'm pretty sure he knew what he had with Dallas before he agreed to the contract...i do think that scrapping the 4-3 midway through his tenure was a miscalculation, and it shows...Zimmer had no previous experience with the alignment...and while having only three years of "doing things his way" is something he can tell himself privately, it won't fly if Jones is looking to put him on the first thing smoking out of Dallas...

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

No...he has not met my expectations.....the REAL problem with this team is that WE CANNOT CONSISTENTLY RUN THE FOOTBALL. That hides weak offensive lineman....that hides a slow defense.....that hides poor gameplans and in game coaching.

How many different RTs have we had? Do you all forget Kurt Vollers and Rob Pettiti. Let's take a look at the Rob Pettiti thing. Parcells plays a 6th round rookie....16 games.....10 of which he should not even have been on the field because of a sprained ankle. And then the following year the guy is cut...and cannot get on the field for another NFL team. Now Parcells LED us to believe he was forcing Pettiti to play in pain, because he saw something in the kid. Right? Well why do we make that kind of investment....then THE VERY NEXT YEAR after the kid spends all offseason healing up and getting stronger, he cannot even get on a NFL field. I bring this up because it is that kind of ish that confirms for me that Parcells is no longer to be trusted. And because Jerry is not a FOOTBALL man, he cannot see through Parcells bs. He was a great coach....and is still a GOOD coach....but there is no denying what Sean Payton, Lovie Smith, heck even what Herm Edwards and the coach of the Jets have been able to accomplish in a short amount of time.

There are many examples I can point to like Rob Pettiti, but that to me just epitomizes the kind of snake oil Parcells is rubbing Jerry down with every year.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Parcells biggest mistake was in not blowing up the whole team when he 1st came in. He was too eager not to rock the boat and tell Jerry "what you have given me to work with is crap" that he tried to win with it .Im amazed how many "He's been here 4 years and what has he done?" guys never mention this fact. This is really only year 3 of doing things his way. He won with QCarter, THam, and a defense he didnt believe in his first year, but sticking with it in year 2 set us back . BTW ,the choice isnt between Parcells and some hot ,big name replacement. If Jerry forces Bill out he'll (Jerry)go back to running this team Al Davis style through some puppet and we're back to 5-11. Just watch.

Bingo. Not many have the patience needed for this team to rebound. We haven't been stellar in any department before Parcells arrival and he was supposed to fix it in THREE years. I don't include year one as "his team".
That was a... let's see what you have, Jerry year IMOP.

I see the team being built for the long haul, that's Parcells style. Not the quick fix for a season or two, that most around here would be happy with.

 

[dbair1967]

I agree with everything you say here, but I'm not ready to let BP go as I think the team continues to improve and next year should be stronger, especially in the lines, but they'll still be in the NFC East and will have their work cut out for them.

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what improvement? The offense was better for some of the season, but was also very inconsistent...the OL has been mediocre for 4yrs

defensively this team is horrible and worse now than it was the day he took over...with Greg Ellis' injury, there is only one player on the defense that Parcells didnt handpick (RW)

David

 

[dbair1967]

:

1. Do you think that the above accomplsihments have met Jerry Jones expectations?

2. Do you think that the above accomplishments have met Big Bill's own expectations?

3. Has Big Bill met your expectations?

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the obvious answer is no on all accounts...the roster's been overhauled, the coaching staff is different...the defensive scheme changed...

but we're still mediocre and no closer to an elite team now than we were the day Parcells took over...defensively this team is a joke, and the OL is still mediocre and cant sustain any sort of running game on a week to week basis

the best thing about Parcells' 4yrs so far I think would have to be Romo's development, but if thats all we can hang our hats on after 4 seasons it hasnt been worth it by any sense of the imagination

David

 

[yesfan]

The answer has to be no on all three.I don't think
the way Jerry throws his money around though, should
factor in as much.I do believe this team is better and
on the right track,what scares me is the future of the
entire coaching staff.The one person i would try to trade
is Roy Williams.This team should have won Saturday and the
one thing they seem to lack is "putting the game away" all
year.I think everyone should feel let down,i can't remember
so many let downs as we've had this year.