about those depth issues....

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do we still have zero depth whatsoever, as the chicken little's cried last week?

our backups kicked the crap out of Tennessee's guys

I suppose someone will contend it was a fluke
 

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dbair1967;2897252 said:
do we still have zero depth whatsoever, as the chicken little's cried last week?

our backups kicked the crap out of Tennessee's guys

I suppose someone will contend it was a fluke
It was a fluke. our back-ups stink.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2897257 said:
Everyone played great tonight. Other than ST I don't see how someone could be negative.


You'd be surprised.... you'd be surprised.



Well probably not... somebody will find something. A few always do.
 

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dbair1967;2897252 said:
do we still have zero depth whatsoever, as the chicken little's cried last week?

our backups kicked the crap out of Tennessee's guys

I suppose someone will contend it was a fluke

What killed me was listening to that idiot Buck gush over Tennessee's depth the entire game. What was so special about those guys? He barely said a positive thing about how Dallas' 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams basically dismantled the Titans.

The lack of respect this Cowboys team is getting is astounding. Honestly, I think it's a good thing since this team needs a kick in the *** and maybe this underdog thing will help motivate them. On the other hand, I seriously don't know what all these "experts" are looking at when they lump us down with the average teams in the league. Last year was injury-riddled and had its share of heartbreaking losses...and we still had a winning record. Our roster is not much different from '07 when we were the best in the conference. This team seems more focused than last year's, they had a good camp, and their starting 22 matches up well with just about any in the league.

I am really looking forward to this team shutting A LOT of people up.
 

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dbair1967;2897252 said:
do we still have zero depth whatsoever, as the chicken little's cried last week?

our backups kicked the crap out of Tennessee's guys

I suppose someone will contend it was a fluke

Were you one that said the score board wouldnt be hit or Jenkins was a better starter than Orlando? Either ways, go rub your nose somewhere else. So the second teamers had a week to correct their mistakes, want a cookie?
 

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Everlastingxxx;2897318 said:
Were you one that said the score board wouldnt be hit or Jenkins was a better starter than Orlando? Either ways, go rub your nose somewhere else. So the second teamers had a week to correct their mistakes, want a cookie?

guess you were one of said chicken little's eh?

On Jenkins, if the coaches are starting him, doesnt that answer your question?

Have no idea what you are talking about with the scorebaord? What does that have to do with the price of cheese on the world market?
 

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dbair1967;2897331 said:
guess you were one of said chicken little's eh?

On Jenkins, if the coaches are starting him, doesnt that answer your question?

Have no idea what you are talking about with the scorebaord? What does that have to do with the price of cheese on the world market?

Everyone has said the depth is an issue, but you chose to pound your chest like you are some smart ***. Dude you know crap about football. Jerry Jones has Jenkins starting because he is a first round pick, Scan has out played him all training camp. So go thump your chest somewhere else.
 

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dbair1967;2897252 said:
do we still have zero depth whatsoever, as the chicken little's cried last week?

our backups kicked the crap out of Tennessee's guys

I suppose someone will contend it was a fluke

Plenty of people were concerned at our depth last week - probably because we were so bad against a not great Raiders team. Better performance this week.......but that does not change last weeks performance.
 

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Proctor still sucks

but I was impressed with Free, although he still struggles with strength, but that is only occasionally, and McQ looked good, you can tell those 2 are good athletes, and why Parcells was so high on McQ, and why the current staff is so high on Free, Holland is a former starter, so you already know what you're going to get from him

Jason Williams looked alot better this week

not that worried about the WRs anymore, although I've always been high on Crayton, Hurd and Austin, Ogletree ran some pro routes tonight, which I think is what really seperates him from Stanback, Isaiah is just still too raw

sucks that Brandon Williams keeps getting hurt

and of course Bobby Carpenter looks like he'll make a nice nickel backer

haven't been too impressed with D'Angelo Smith and my boy Michael Hamlin, Victor Butler hasn't stood out either, but all 3 play fast
 

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Everlastingxxx;2897336 said:
Everyone has said the depth is an issue, but you chose to pound your chest like you are some smart ***. Dude you know crap about football. Jerry Jones has Jenkins starting because he is a first round pick, Scan has out played him all training camp. So go thump your chest somewhere else.

To stick my nose into this little argument, I'll just say that I have respect for dbair's opinions... over time, he has proven to be a good, knowledgeable poster... we have argued in the past (mildly), but I generally find myself in agreement with him...

His point, of course, was to mock the knee-jerk, utterly predictable overreactions of the Chicken Littles in here after last week's PRESEASON game... and his point is quite valid; even after the total butt-kicking the Boys put on the Titans (a very good team) tonight, I'm still reading more negative threads than positive...

Seems there's no pleasing some Cowboys fans... if they ever did play the perfect game that some folks seem to demand, that crew would probably be pissed that they didn't have anything to whine about...
 

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silverbear;2897370 said:
To stick my nose into this little argument, I'll just say that I have respect for dbair's opinions... over time, he has proven to be a good, knowledgeable poster... we have argued in the past (mildly), but I generally find myself in agreement with him...

His point, of course, was to mock the knee-jerk, utterly predictable overreactions of the Chicken Littles in here after last week's PRESEASON game... and his point is quite valid; even after the total butt-kicking the Boys put on the Titans (a very good team) tonight, I'm still reading more negative threads than positive...

Seems there's no pleasing some Cowboys fans... if they ever did play the perfect game that some folks seem to demand, that crew would probably be pissed that they didn't have anything to whine about...

Sure the second/third teamers played better tonight. But to come and quickly start two threads thumping your chest making fun of those that worry about depth on this team. There is still concern about depth no matter the result. Its one game, just like last week was just one game. I just don’t understand why he has to come and try to mock everyone else.
 

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Free did a fine job tonite - but he does not get that first punch into the D player

he always get pushed a yard or two back needs more leg an upper body strength

I say once guy fake to the outside an bam he was inside of Free

I still say we draft a LT next year first

he could be a fine swing tackle back up with another season under his belt

and Bright played tonight he looked ok to me

Adams - Kozier - Gurode - Davis - Columbo

Free - Procter - Bright - Mcq - Holland

maybe we keep Nine O Linemen

Holland looked slow tonite
 

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Everlastingxxx;2897391 said:
Sure the second/third teamers played better tonight. But to come and quickly start two threads thumping your chest making fun of those that worry about depth on this team. There is still concern about depth no matter the result. Its one game, just like last week was just one game. I just don’t understand why he has to come and try to mock everyone else.
You were talking about cookies so, do you want some cheese with that whine?
 

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Everlastingxxx;2897391 said:
Sure the second/third teamers played better tonight. But to come and quickly start two threads thumping your chest making fun of those that worry about depth on this team. There is still concern about depth no matter the result. Its one game, just like last week was just one game. I just don’t understand why he has to come and try to mock everyone else.

Agreed. Who is the impostor who has taken the normally levelheaded dbair's place? The radical personality change is unsettling, not to mention unexpected.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2897391 said:
Sure the second/third teamers played better tonight. But to come and quickly start two threads thumping your chest making fun of those that worry about depth on this team. There is still concern about depth no matter the result. Its one game, just like last week was just one game. I just don’t understand why he has to come and try to mock everyone else.

Some of us get sick of the Chicken Littles, especially the ones who don't understand the concept of PRESEASON... you know, that time where coaches deliberately put rookies in situations where they might be outmatched, to see how they react...

Preseason is, or should be, all about evaluating your talent... wins and losses are secondary to that goal... thus, I don't care about the Boys being handled easily by a bad Faiders team, especially not when our starters against theirs was advantage, Dallas...

I also don't care about waxing a very good Titans team tonight, what I care about is the way our starters fared against theirs... I was, however, pleased to see our depth show a bit more than they did last week...

Again, I understood the point of dbair's original post in this thread... it was intended to make (sarcastic) fun of the posters in here who don't have the first clue what preseason is all about...

Looking at tonight's game, my negative issues consist of two things, basically-- the number of penalties, and we're not getting many sacks... we do, however, seem to be getting pressure, it's just a wee bit late... I might be worried about Folk missing two FGs early in preseason, but I have faith in him...

I'll also note that for all the worry about our blitz pickups, in two games now Cowboys QBs have been sacked once, and were hurried once in the Faiders game (haven't seen the stats yet for hurries in tonight's game)... seems to me the QBs have been getting good time in the pocket... it also seems that our running game isn't there yet, though you can't have any complaints about the run defense tonight (particularly gratifying after a weak effort against the run last week)...

I just took the time to analyze our pass defense and our pass offense in the first two preseason games... the comparison is interesting because the Boys have attempted 67 passes, and had 67 passes attempted against them... here's how the numbers break down:

Cowboys-- 67 attempts, 47 completions (70.1 per cent)... 512 yards (7.6 yards per attempt)... combined quarterback rating of 101.1... 256.0 yards per game...

Opponents-- 67 attempts, 36 completions (53.7 per cent)... 431 yards (6.4 yards per attempt)... combined quarterback rating of 77.4... 215.5 yards per game...

Last year, a 70.1 per cent completion rate would have ranked 1st in the NFL, 256 yards per game would have ranked 5th, 7.6 yards per attempt would have ranked 8th, and a 101.1 QBR would have ranked 2nd...

Conversely, the 53.7 completion percentage allowed would have ranked 2nd in the league, 215.5 YPG would have ranked 18th (highly mediocre), the 6.4 YPA would have ranked 6th and the 77.4 QBR would have ranked 11th...

Obviously, this is a small sample size, and obviously, there were some players on both teams involved in those numbers who won't be around come opening day... but so far, the Boys' pass offense has been highly efficient (you've got to love FIFTEEN different receivers catching passes tonight), and their pass defense has been decent to good...

These are the kinds of things you want to look for in preseason, not wins and losses... after the first two games have played out, I have concerns about backup C, and about backup NT... the Boys need to upgrade both positions, IMO...
 

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I was surprised by Steve Octavien. I thought he was all over the place.

Jason Williams really showed his speed. Gave a glimpse into what he can become.

And the backup corners actually, well, covered.

All the quarterbacks seemed to have ample time. Romo got dinged once. It seemed like no one else ever hit the turf lol.
 

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RainMan;2897530 said:
All the quarterbacks seemed to have ample time. Romo got dinged once. It seemed like no one else ever hit the turf lol.

Fine pass blocking, still not quite there in the run blocking department... for all the talk about our three headed running back monster, we may once again be looking at a team that passes the ball better than it runs it...

Or maybe the Boys are just keeping the wraps on the running game, saving it for the regular season... but y'know, I don't really care how the Boys move the ball, so long as they move it consistently...
 

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dbair1967;2897252 said:
do we still have zero depth whatsoever, as the chicken little's cried last week?

our backups kicked the crap out of Tennessee's guys

I suppose someone will contend it was a fluke

So that game solved the depth problems for you on the Offensive Line? OLB? and CB?

Cause it didn't for me.

Proctor still can't snap. McQuistan and Holland would still be targets if they had to start. The rookie OLB's are still unproven and one now may be hurt for a period of time. And I cringe thinking of Courtney Brown or Mike Mickens having to cover anyone.

And let's remember who was playing QB for the Titans.

Vince Young may be on his way to a 3rd team QB and then out of league in a short time. He's only hanging on now because of his name.
 
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