ABQ's "All The Big Uglies Are Gone Draft"

ABQCOWBOY

Regular Joe....
Messages
58,929
Reaction score
27,716
Have thought about this draft and while I would love to get an impact OL or DL at 18, I just think that they are going to be gone. With that in mind, here you go.

Edit: As a caveat, if one of the impact OLs or DLs are there, obviously this changes and we take that player at 18. This is based on the very real possibility that all of those players are gone.

1st Rd (Pick 18) - Jamar Taylor CB/FS Boise St University 5'11" 192 lbs.

[youtube]DMHLTcEs3bI[/youtube]


I gave a considerable amount of thought to this pick and while I would have liked to have gotten an impact Lineman here, I believe that the three biggest needs are interior OL, DT and Safety. It's possible that Vaccaro may be on the board here but I am doubtful of that and I believe that Taylor will end up being a better fit for what we are trying to do in the Tampa2. I've watched this player his entire College Career. He is, IMO, the best DB prospect that has come out of Boise St. in recent years. I believe he can play CB in the NFL and be pretty decent at that. Having said that, I believe his best fit is Safety for us. He can do it all. Cover, play in space, tackle, blitz, intercept the ball and bring it to the house. He's a 4.37 DB with excellent agility, excellent strength and superior football intellect. He's also a leader on and off the field. He's not a guy you are going to have to worry about seeing on ESPN for the wrong reasons. You take him and he is the FS you are looking for to run your Defensive Backfield in a Tampa2. If Church and Johnson work out, then you have depth at both Safety and CB. Because he's also a starting quality CB that will allow you to either move Carr or play him in the slot if you so choose. Will give you some flexibility because you can now consider moving one of the high priced CBs we currently have on the roster via trade or release. Many of you won't like this pick but I think he's likely the best talent available at 18 and he also fits a need for us. There is no downside to this pick.



2nd Rd (Pick 49) - Jessie Williams DT University of Alabama 6'4" 323 lbs.


[youtube]HpHJB0z-lt8[/youtube]

Originally, I thought that Jessie Williams would be a 1st round pick and he still may be but I have a feeling he's going to slide. I suspect that the 3techs are all going to go ahead of Williams and he will be there at 47. Excellent size and massive strength. He is ideal for the 1 Tech, which is what our DL desperately needs. He has no quit in him. You can say that this DT or that DT has better quicks but none of them work harder then Williams. He still has a very long way to go in his development, he is just scratching the surface of what he can be in the NFL. He does not have the quick twitch penetration moves you might see from some of the other DTs but he can push the pocket back into the face of the QB and he can wall off penetration in the running game. He also practiced everyday against NFL caliber talent at Alabama, to say nothing of SEC competition. I suspect that once Williams has a chance to receive NFL Coaching, his pass rush will improve significantly as well. He is not a bad athlete by any means. For a 324 pound man, his agility numbers are impressive and you don't find many Rookie Lineman, on either side of the ball, able to push up 600 lbs plus. He needs to work on his lower body strength and his technique but the things that are important are there. Size, strength, agility, desire and intelligence.



3rd Rd Pick (Pick 80) - Kyle Long OG/OT University of Oregon 6'6" 313 lbs.


[youtube]bKE7PwX9zDs[/youtube]

There are some concerns with Long. He's had a DUI when he was younger and he wasn't really serious about academics while at FSU. He hasn't played much football and there are still things he needs to work on. Didn't really help that he had to change positions in the middle of the year. However, it did show that he has the versatility to play OT and OG. Very mobile, can reach multiple targets, can pull, looks to be ideal for a zone scheme. He could be a RT or he could be a LG but you can see the effort and the desire. All he needs are reps and he will continue to improve. The question I would have is strength. Obviously he will need to improve but with the expectation of the Cowboys possibly signing a RT in FA, I think drafting Long would do three things. 1) It allows time for the Cowboys to develop him the way they should. Would give him a season or two where he can just get stronger and work on his technique. 2) Allows the Cowboys to see if he's really figured it out yet or not. Obviously, if he develops into the player I think he might be, the Cowboys can see up close and personal how he handles himself. See if he's past the stuff in his past and decide if he's worth a big money contract. 3) It allows the Cowboys the possibility of getting out from under an FA contract if/when Long is able to step in as a starter. I don't know if Long will start at Tackle or Guard but I am pretty sure that he's going to be a starter somewhere.


4th Rd Pick ( Pick 114) - Stephan Taylor RB Stanford University 5'9" 214 lbs.

[youtube]_00ziPxn0Os[/youtube]

I seriously considered Bell here but what can I tell you, I love this player. He's everything good about football IMO. He is a smart, tough, all hart player that does nothing but produce. Yeah, I know everybody is going to say that he doesn't have the speed the other backs do but what I would tell you is that he ran on a sprained ankle at the combine. What I would tell you is that he still ran a low 4.56 at the combine. What I would tell you is that he seems to run away from a lot of guys at Stanford. What I would tell you is that he is an everydown back that can carry the load, can pick up the blitz, can catch the ball, can run inside or outside and does not know what the meaning of quit is and always seems to be stronger in the 4th quarter then he was in the 1st. He's extremely intelligent and ultra productive. A 3 year starter, he rushed for 4000 yards in three seasons, averaged 5.1 YPC and 1679 yards (per season) in those three seasons in combined rushing and receiving yards, along with just over 14 TDs a season. He is a complete back and exactly what we would be looking for to try and complement Murray. I watch him and he reminds me of Curtis Martin. As Cowboys fans, we of all fan bases, should understand that speed is not everything at RB. This kid, IMO, will be a very, very good back in the NFL.



5th Rd Pick (Pick 151) - Hugh Thornton OG University of Illinois 6'3" 320 lbs.


[youtube]gl3W508MQ2c[/youtube]

Thornton is a guy I believe could be an excellent OG in the NFL. A powerful guy who ragdolled people in the Big 10. Good bend, surprisingly good feet for a man his size. Started 7 games at RT as a Freshman along with LG, was moved to LG permanently in his Sophomore year and started there until his Senior year where he was moved to LT and still ended up as 2nd team all Big 10. This is a guy how has a lot of flexibility in his game but I think Guard is where he will fit in the NFL. You look at his numbers and for a 320 pound man, they are pretty impressive. Was the leader of the Illinois OL in his Senior year. No off the field issues. I just wonder how good he could have been if he had played LG in his senior season? I wonder if he would have been in the top 2 or 3 OGs had he stuck to one position? I think this player has a ton of upside. Would fit in a zone blocking scheme and a great value at round 5.


6th Rd Pick (Pick 185) - Jake Knott OLB Iowa State University 6'2" 243 lbs.

[youtube]puJUBRoetWc[/youtube]

This is a very interesting player. Did not run well at the combine or, I should say, he turned in one very good 40 time (4.65) and one horrible 40 time (4.87). However, he ran with hamstring issues so that has to be evaluated. Played on a team that was not very good but never showed an ounce of quit. He was a do it all player for Iowa St. Ultra productive posting seasons of 130 and 115 tackles in his Soph and Jr. years and 79 in his Sr. year before sustaining a shoulder injury. He's not a big sack guy, rather, he plays in coverage a lot and is excellent at it. Has 8 career INTs and 23 PDs. This is a guy who, in a Tampa2, could play all of the LBer positions, including the deep drop MLB position. He can cover, he can tackle, he plays with a great motor, he has hart and he tackles well, which is not something you see a lot of anymore. I love this player, especially for our scheme. At worst, he's a guy who could backup any LB position on the team. At best, he's a starter at one of the LB spots. He is as close to Lee as I've seen in college football this year. This late in the draft, your looking for guys who can make the team and contribute on special teams. Possibly work their way into a backup role or an outside shot at starting down the line. Jake Knott is exactly that kind of guy.


UFA Options:


Sean Renfree QB Duke University - 6'3" 220 lbs.

Mark Harrison WR Rutgers University - 6'3" 231 lbs.
 

RS12

Well-Known Member
Messages
32,529
Reaction score
29,875
Welp, I like picks 4 and 5. Dont see them taking Taylor 18 under any scenario. I think any D lineman has to be more of a pass rusher.
 

Macnalty

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,639
Reaction score
2,162
RS12;5050376 said:
Welp, I like picks 4 and 5. Dont see them taking Taylor 18 under any scenario. I think any D lineman has to be more of a pass rusher.

That would be the steal of the draft to get Kyle Long at that pick.
I like the picks and agree about Taylor I think there are better choices for the boys, IMO too slow for what we want to run. He is a good player I believe we are looking for a quicker runner.
Jake Knott is a football player was injured so he did not perform well at combine, he is a Sean Lee type player which is high praise indeed.
 

tm1119

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,946
Reaction score
8,684
Yeah I think you put a little too much thought into that Taylor pick....

I'm also pretty positive long will go in the top 50, 80 seems like a huge stretch.

Picks 2, 4 and 5 are fine though
 

AsthmaField

Outta bounds
Messages
26,489
Reaction score
44,544
I actually wouldn't mind that at all. I like the first round Taylor and the 4th round Taylor. Long would be great there and Williams would no doubt solidify the front 4 on defense.

A lot of people will hate the first round pick, but really, if you like Vaccaro at 18 you should be more than fine with Taylor at 18, and like you said, he would be more versatile than Vaccaro would be.

You wouldn't find me throwing a fit over that.
 

CowboyMcCoy

Business is a Boomin
Messages
12,749
Reaction score
235
I don't like your first pick, but probably because I'm unfamiliar with the player. You did a bang up job with the vids and the rest of the draft though. Great post! You and I both have Stepfan Taylor going in the 4th, but I'm thinking he may not be there and we may take him in the 3rd. Again, very cool post.

And what's up with footballman175 on youtube? that guy is a beast! :laugh2:
 

CowboyMcCoy

Business is a Boomin
Messages
12,749
Reaction score
235
Macnalty;5050385 said:
That would be the steal of the draft to get Kyle Long at that pick.
I like the picks and agree about Taylor I think there are better choices for the boys, IMO too slow for what we want to run. He is a good player I believe we are looking for a quicker runner.
Jake Knott is a football player was injured so he did not perform well at combine, he is a Sean Lee type player which is high praise indeed.

The funny thing is Taylor really isn't that slow.He definitely isn't football slow. He's very quick and seems to accelerate just fine, which seems to be part of the reason he looks so good. He'd fit our system perfectly. And we need a running back, so Ronald McDonald will stop embarrassing himself in the first half of the game.
 

Gaede

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,165
Reaction score
14,127
Love that draft...only pick I don't like is kyle long...was just thinking about Taylor as a potential FS
 

MonsterD

Quota outta absentia
Messages
8,106
Reaction score
5,803
Gaede;5050409 said:
Love that draft...only pick I don't like is kyle long...was just thinking about Taylor as a potential FS

Would X.Rhodes be a better choice as a FS convert?
 

9darter

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,970
Reaction score
1,571
I really, really like Taylor. Along with Rambo and Cyprien, he's my favorite DB in this draft. But taking him at 18 is too much for me. I'm willing to wait and see if he's still there at 47. He's one of my targets for that pick. As a FS convert.
 

Macnalty

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,639
Reaction score
2,162
CowboyMcCoy;5050405 said:
The funny thing is Taylor really isn't that slow.He definitely isn't football slow. He's very quick and seems to accelerate just fine, which seems to be part of the reason he looks so good. He'd fit our system perfectly. And we need a running back, so Ronald McDonald will stop embarrassing himself in the first half of the game.

Your are correct watching him you do not think slow, IMO we need the quicker twitch type back and that is my only complaint. I really like the back from A&M but think he does not fit the RKG mold.
 

ABQcowboyJR

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,424
Reaction score
494
MonsterD;5050416 said:
Would X.Rhodes be a better choice as a FS convert?

No Rhodes isn't really a fluid athlete like Taylor is. Taylor being so fluid is why the projection to fs isn't a bad one IMO. If he is the #1 guy in the board, take him. I wouldn't be opposed to the pick. I really don't see Jesse Williams sliding that far. I agree that the 3 tech guys will go first, but I see guys like Hankins and Jenkins sliding to us in the second. I think that long should go right where your taking him, but will he.....I don't know. I could see a team reaching for him in the second. I really like the Taylor pick. A do it all football kid. If we could snag Taylor, Lattimore, Franklin, or Bell here I would be happy. Really can't complain too much about Thornton or Knott. I would be happy if it worked out this way.
 

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,202
Reaction score
64,711
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Nice touch having the videos for each pick.

I don't like the mock, except the 4th and 5th round picks.
 

ABQCOWBOY

Regular Joe....
Messages
58,929
Reaction score
27,716
xwalker;5050632 said:
Nice touch having the videos for each pick.

I don't like the mock, except the 4th and 5th round picks.

Honesty is never a bad thing Walker.
 

JackWagon

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,394
Reaction score
114
Wouldnt mind that draft at all ... very logical ... however we know when jj picks .. he defies logic. :)
 

arglebargle

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,373
Reaction score
409
Not so keen on the picks here.

On the other hand, you've probably done lots more research than me. Cross our fingers for one of the good Olineman to fall. All we'll need is an extra QB and TE to go high.....

Format and presentation is great though. Very nice.
 

AsthmaField

Outta bounds
Messages
26,489
Reaction score
44,544
ABQcowboyJR;5050544 said:
No Rhodes isn't really a fluid athlete like Taylor is. Taylor being so fluid is why the projection to fs isn't a bad one IMO.

Taylor being fluid is the reason he would make a good safety? Are you saying that Rhodes isn't fluid and so would make a better corner than a safety? Because typically when corners aren't as athletic and fluid as they need to be, they are projected to safety, where speed and fluidity are less important.

Or are you saying that Rhodes isn't fluid enough to be a safety or corner and you just don't like him as a prospect?

Because this is the first time I've heard of an athlete being fluid enough for corner but not for safety.

If that isn't what you're saying then pardon me for misunderstanding what you meant.
 

ABQcowboyJR

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,424
Reaction score
494
AsthmaField;5051118 said:
Taylor being fluid is the reason he would make a good safety? Are you saying that Rhodes isn't fluid and so would make a better corner than a safety? Because typically when corners aren't as athletic and fluid as they need to be, they are projected to safety, where speed and fluidity are less important.

Or are you saying that Rhodes isn't fluid enough to be a safety or corner and you just don't like him as a prospect?

Because this is the first time I've heard of an athlete being fluid enough for corner but not for safety.

If that isn't what you're saying then pardon me for misunderstanding what you meant.

I meant Taylor is a more fluid athlete and thus a better prospect. I wasn't referring to Rhodes at all in that statement. Because of Taylors athletic ability I believe he could play safety or corner in the NFL. Sorry for the confusion.
 

AsthmaField

Outta bounds
Messages
26,489
Reaction score
44,544
ABQcowboyJR;5051241 said:
I meant Taylor is a more fluid athlete and thus a better prospect. I wasn't referring to Rhodes at all in that statement. Because of Taylors athletic ability I believe he could play safety or corner in the NFL. Sorry for the confusion.


I've been up since 4:30 this morning bro... It was probably my dumb arse misunderstanding plain english.
 
Top