Accept one or two bad years.

[nathanlt]

Clawing tooth and nail for 2nd and 3rd tier players in free agency is not the way to build a really good team. I've always thought that trading down to pick up 4 late first and early to mid second picks would really boost the team, but here's how you REALLY get a good core of players!

1. Trade away some of your superstars for 1st and 2nd round picks in the next year.

2. Give a trade outright of your first round draft pick to a team that has either multiple 1st's the following year, or a 1st and multiple 2nds the following year.

You will have a terrible year, but what does that mean? A high, high first round pick.

If you can stand it repeat the process for the next year.

Then, cash in. You will end up with high caliber talent, all building a teamwork culture at the same time, if you have the right coaching environment. You might end up with 3 to 6 #1's and 3 to 6 #2's, several being top 10 talent.

And picking in the top 10 multiple times gives a team decades of 4 or 5 Pro Bowlers, plus between 4 and 7 really good starters.

I just wish there was a way to fast forward to that scenario, because it would get ugly in the meantime.

Bottom line: A 1st round pick + 1 year of time should not really equal 2 first round picks, but if that's the way trades are done, use time to DOUBLE the value of your resources.

(I think the Dolphins have already done that, and are cashing in this year.)

 

[IrishAnto]

Clawing tooth and nail for 2nd and 3rd tier players in free agency is not the way to build a really good team. I've always thought that trading down to pick up 4 late first and early to mid second picks would really boost the team, but here's how you REALLY get a good core of players!

1. Trade away some of your superstars for 1st and 2nd round picks in the next year.

2. Give a trade outright of your first round draft pick to a team that has either multiple 1st's the following year, or a 1st and multiple 2nds the following year.

You will have a terrible year, but what does that mean? A high, high first round pick.

If you can stand it repeat the process for the next year.

Then, cash in. You will end up with high caliber talent, all building a teamwork culture at the same time, if you have the right coaching environment. You might end up with 3 to 6 #1's and 3 to 6 #2's, several being top 10 talent.

And picking in the top 10 multiple times gives a team decades of 4 or 5 Pro Bowlers, plus between 4 and 7 really good starters.

I just wish there was a way to fast forward to that scenario, because it would get ugly in the meantime.

Bottom line: A 1st round pick + 1 year of time should not really equal 2 first round picks, but if that's the way trades are done, use time to DOUBLE the value of your resources.

(I think the Dolphins have already done that, and are cashing in this year.)

Tell me how picking in the top 10 of the draft; the majority of the time has helped the Loins, Browns etc.?

Be careful what you wish for!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Tell me how picking in the top 10 of the draft; the majority of the time has helped the Loins, Browns etc.?

Be careful what you wish for!

There are always going to be bad organizations to point to but there are also examples of Organizations who have bitten the bullet and have emerged as contenders as well.

Seattle, San Fran, Tampa Bay, just off the top of my head have done this and they are starting to see rewards from it.

 

[xwalker]

How about going All-In the next 3 years and then cutting Romo, Ware, Witten, etc.. In a 1-year time frame you clean up the salary cap and get a top draft pick.

This is basically what the Colts did by releasing Manning and then drafting Luck.

 

[Future]

How about going All-In the next 3 years and then cutting Romo, Ware, Witten, etc.. In a 1-year time frame you clean up the salary cap and get a top draft pick.

This is basically what the Colts did by releasing Manning and then drafting Luck.

I think that's probably the plan.

If in 2 years Dallas doesn't at least get to the Super Bowl, I expect Jerry to be dealing those guys.

 

[Doomsday101]

Clawing tooth and nail for 2nd and 3rd tier players in free agency is not the way to build a really good team. I've always thought that trading down to pick up 4 late first and early to mid second picks would really boost the team, but here's how you REALLY get a good core of players!

1. Trade away some of your superstars for 1st and 2nd round picks in the next year.

2. Give a trade outright of your first round draft pick to a team that has either multiple 1st's the following year, or a 1st and multiple 2nds the following year.

You will have a terrible year, but what does that mean? A high, high first round pick.

If you can stand it repeat the process for the next year.

Then, cash in. You will end up with high caliber talent, all building a teamwork culture at the same time, if you have the right coaching environment. You might end up with 3 to 6 #1's and 3 to 6 #2's, several being top 10 talent.

And picking in the top 10 multiple times gives a team decades of 4 or 5 Pro Bowlers, plus between 4 and 7 really good starters.

I just wish there was a way to fast forward to that scenario, because it would get ugly in the meantime.

Bottom line: A 1st round pick + 1 year of time should not really equal 2 first round picks, but if that's the way trades are done, use time to DOUBLE the value of your resources.

(I think the Dolphins have already done that, and are cashing in this year.)

and the Jerry haters will be hollering louder than ever. Lucky you are not the GM

 

[tm1119]

The core is there on D and with Dez and Murray as weapons on the offense with a LT in place I really don't think the rebuild would be that hard. We just would need a competent GM to know not to resign 30 year olds to long term contracts and draft well. Probably too much to ask for though.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

How about going All-In the next 3 years and then cutting Romo, Ware, Witten, etc.. In a 1-year time frame you clean up the salary cap and get a top draft pick.

This is basically what the Colts did by releasing Manning and then drafting Luck.

The problem with this, IMO, is that we don't really have much to go all in with after we resign Romo and apparently Spencer. We are basically going all in to keep the same team we have. I don't know if that's going to get you any better results.

 

[Nightman]

Clawing tooth and nail for 2nd and 3rd tier players in free agency is not the way to build a really good team. I've always thought that trading down to pick up 4 late first and early to mid second picks would really boost the team, but here's how you REALLY get a good core of players!

1. Trade away some of your superstars for 1st and 2nd round picks in the next year.

2. Give a trade outright of your first round draft pick to a team that has either multiple 1st's the following year, or a 1st and multiple 2nds the following year.

You will have a terrible year, but what does that mean? A high, high first round pick.

If you can stand it repeat the process for the next year.

Then, cash in. You will end up with high caliber talent, all building a teamwork culture at the same time, if you have the right coaching environment. You might end up with 3 to 6 #1's and 3 to 6 #2's, several being top 10 talent.

And picking in the top 10 multiple times gives a team decades of 4 or 5 Pro Bowlers, plus between 4 and 7 really good starters.

I just wish there was a way to fast forward to that scenario, because it would get ugly in the meantime.

Bottom line: A 1st round pick + 1 year of time should not really equal 2 first round picks, but if that's the way trades are done, use time to DOUBLE the value of your resources.

(I think the Dolphins have already done that, and are cashing in this year.)

We got 2 high draft picks recently with Claiborne and Smith and didn't have to tank. Claiborne cost us a 2nd round pick, but he looks like a star. We also got 1st round talents in Lee and Carter by redshirting them. No way Dez Bryant goes 24th if the draft was held again. Drafting well and hitting on some UDFAs doesn't have to come from being terrible. It's first round misses like Bobby Carpenter and Roy Williams and "special teams" drafts like 2009 that really hurt.

 

[xwalker]

The problem with this, IMO, is that we don't really have much to go all in with after we resign Romo and apparently Spencer. We are basically going all in to keep the same team we have. I don't know if that's going to get you any better results.

I agree that they can't do anything big in Free Agency this year; however, I would feel pretty good about his team if they could add 1 Starting Interior OLineman in the draft and do something at Safety.

They have to determine a 3rd LB, but that position is well documented to be the easiest to fill in Kiffin's defense. They need another backup Running back, but there seems to be many of those in the draft.

I'm more worried about players staying healthy than a complete lack of talent. I would just hold players like Ratliff and Witten out of training camp altogether.

 

[WhizKid]

IR
*Barry Church (starting SS, replaced by Danny McCray)
*Sean Lee (starting ILB, replaced by Bruce Carter)
-Bruce Carter( ILB Replaced by Dan Connor)
*Bruce Carter ( Starting ILB, replaced by Ernie Sims)
*Kenyon Coleman ( Starting DE, replaced by Spears)
*Orlando Scandrick

That is just the IR, excluding the injuries that hobbled guys throughout the season, like Ware, Austin, Murray, Jenkins and the rotation at center.

Am I wrong to think that a healthy team this year playing a weaker schedule than the year before will win more than 8 games? If I am, is it safe to say that those injured player, even when healthy equate to an 8 win team, therefore making them equivalents to those who replaced them?

If health alone equates to more wins this year, could the addition of a one FA OG or RT and an addition of one player through the draft to play on the line, MAAAyyBeee two, can add one to two more wins alone by keeping our QB healthy and out of the assumed position of a street *****, sprawled out on his back? We don't need an all star vet to come in, just someone who could the job better than Berny or Livings.

The main problems last year were health and depth. I'm gonna predict we won't be channeling the red cross like we did last year, and that additions through the draft and a couple through FA to provide depth, should not only keep us in contention for the division, but in the playoffs also.

I just don't think it is that impossible to compete, especially when we get healthy, which is what will likely happen.

 

[nathanlt]

and the Jerry haters will be hollering louder than ever. Lucky you are not the GM

They would be hollering for the next decade after that draft, and for good reason. Super Bowl Dynasty. That's really what this is all about.

What if Dallas got to pick #1, #3, #7 and #10, #15, #22 in round one, and similarly in round 2. The dirty dozen in the first 2 rounds.

There are your starters contending for SB MVP, probably their rookie season, and definitely in the future. Consider this chart, and look at the probabilities for hitting on draft pick success. I got it from http://realcavsfans.com/showthread.php?38395-NFL-Draft-Success-by-Round, it really opens your eyes on how a draft should be done.

 

[IrishAnto]

There are always going to be bad organizations to point to but there are also examples of Organizations who have bitten the bullet and have emerged as contenders as well.

Seattle, San Fran, Tampa Bay, just off the top of my head have done this and they are starting to see rewards from it.

And what makes you think that the Cowboys in its current guise are a good organization?


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