Adjusted Hall of Fame by team #'s - updated

[Established1971]

This is a stat I like to figure out, have posted it in the past. Just got around to updating it for new class of 07. Two things make it difficult to compare how many hall of famers each team has. One is the amount of years a team has existed and another is which team do you attribute a given player to when they played with multiple teams. What I did is look at every hall of famer. I used 1960, Dallas' 1st year, as a cutoff. If they played more years from 60 on then I include them. I also take every player and assign him to one team. There is some subjectivity here and a few exceptions. A few players I counted for more than one team like Mike Haynes and Eric Dickerson. So with these adjustments these are the totals now (includes execs and coaches)

12 - Oak, Pitt, GB
10- Dallas
9- Miami
8 - Chicago
7 - Minn, Wash, KC
6 - Colts, SD, Buff
5 - SF, Rams, Oilers
4- NYG, Cards, Browns
3 - Jets, Phil, Det
2 - NE
1 - Den, Sea, TB, Cinn
0 - Car, NO, Ravens, Atl, Jax, Texans

 

[rockj7]

Great Post I always wondered how many teams had players in the Hall. We all know that the boys have been snubbed in the hall so they should be ahead in this tally. I have a question also shouldn't Eric Dickerson be counted only as a Ram do to him getting a bulk of his carries with them.

 

[TheProphet]

This is a stat I like to figure out, have posted it in the past. Just got around to updating it for new class of 07. Two things make it difficult to compare how many hall of famers each team has. One is the amount of years a team has existed and another is which team do you attribute a given player to when they played with multiple teams. What I did is look at every hall of famer. I used 1960, Dallas' 1st year, as a cutoff. If they played more years from 60 on then I include them. I also take every player and assign him to one team. There is some subjectivity here and a few exceptions. A few players I counted for more than one team like Mike Haynes and Eric Dickerson. So with these adjustments these are the totals now (includes execs and coaches)

12 - Oak, Pitt, GB
10- Dallas
9- Miami
8 - Chicago
7 - Minn, Wash, KC
6 - Colts, SD, Buff
5 - SF, Rams, Oilers
4- NYG, Cards, Browns
3 - Jets, Phil, Det
2 - NE
1 - Den, Sea, TB, Cinn
0 - Car, NO, Ravens, Atl, Jax, Texans

We should be number one on this list....we have many players who have been overlooked. "Bullet" Bob Hayes is a great example. One of the best things JJ ever did was to have him enshrined in our Ring of Honor. The HOF has yet to follow suit.


Day of contrast


Hayes tells fans he is 'overwhelmed, thrilled,' by his enshrinement into Ring of Honor


9/24/2001


By BRAD TOWNSEND / The Dallas Morning News


IRVING – Yes, there were a lot of years of waiting and wondering, Bob Hayes admitted Sunday. But there was never doubting.
Still, when the moment arrived, Hayes clasped his hands, pursed his lips and fixed misty eyes upon the blue strip that encircles Texas Stadium's inner façade.
Black tarps were pulled down, formally unveiling the 11th addition to the Dallas Cowboys' Ring of Honor – "22 Bob Hayes 1965-1974."

File
Bob Hayes holds up his Ring of Honor bowl at his induction.
In a sense, the tarps symbolized the years in which Hayes believed his achievements were being forgotten or overlooked. If there was bitterness, that, too, came down Sunday.
"I never searched for it," said the 58-year-old Hayes, who has had surgery for prostate cancer and has been treated for liver and kidney failure. "I knew it was going to come.
"You know, sometimes you don't lose sleep over something that's due. You've got to keep rising, rising and rising. It'll come."
It came during a ceremony at halftime of the Cowboys' 32-21 loss to San Diego, on an afternoon that produced a gamut of emotions.
This was the NFL's return after a week's hiatus. The league postponed games in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist-hijacked plane crashes in New York, Washington, D.C. and southeastern Pennsylvania.
On Sunday the Cowboys distributed 50,000 American flags and 65,000 red, white and blue pom-poms. A field-sized American flag was unfurled with the assistance of area military personnel, fire fighters, police officers and EMS workers.
There was somber pre-game reflection, but also fervent, flag-waving patriotism. The scene reminded Hayes of the 1964 Olympics in Tokyo, when he won two gold medals – including the 100-meter sprint – to earn the designation "World's Fastest Human."
"Today, as you looked around this stadium, you saw nothing but what?" Hayes said. "American flags. That sends a message of 'You don't scare me.'"
The fans groaned when Cowboys quarterback Anthony Wright fumbled on the second play from scrimmage, leading to an early Chargers touchdown.
But the fans sprang to their feet when the Cowboys, trailing 17-0, struck back on a play that seemed reminiscent of Don Meredith-to-Hayes in the mid-to-late '60s: Wright heaving a long, high spiral to speeding Raghib Ismail for an 80-yard touchdown.
Of Hayes' 71 touchdown receptions, which still stand as the Cowboys' record, 18 covered 50 or more yards. The halftime Ring of Honor ceremony – albeit brief – was pure nostalgia.
The only Ring of Honor members not present were coach Tom Landry, who died last February, Meredith and Don Perkins. The others rode onto the field individually in red convertibles, with Hayes riding in the last car.
Hayes, still visibly weak from his various physical ailments, stepped gingerly onto a stage in the middle of the field to a huge ovation. He hugged the other Ring of Honor members as well as Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.
Jones described Hayes as "truly a gift to all fans forevermore of the Dallas Cowboys," then turned the microphone over to Hayes. He seemed to struggle while summoning the strength, and words, to express his emotions.
"Ladies and gentlemen, it's overwhelming," Hayes told the fans. "I'm thrilled. I'm grateful. I've been blessed by the grace of God, winning two Olympic gold medals, being a world record-holder, coming to play for the world's greatest organization in the history of sports."
Later, as he sat in a golf cart in the Texas Stadium end zone tunnel, Hayes admitted: "I'm still a bit weak, but sometimes God gives me that strength to get up out of bed."
It was last spring that Jones phoned Hayes with the news that he would be enshrined in the Ring. At the time, Hayes was described by family and friends to be near death. He was still in a wheelchair when Jones flew Hayes and his family to Irving for a press conference earlier this year.
"Jerry Jones has been tremendously nice to me," Hayes said Sunday. "Not only because my name is going up in the Ring of Honor, but as a friend."
He didn't mention them in his speech to the fans, but afterward Hayes thanked Landry and former general manager Tex Schramm. Schramm wanted to attend this weekend's festivities, but recently fell and fractured a vertebra in his back. He and Hayes spoke by phone for about 30 minutes Sunday morning.
Many over the years had wondered whether Hayes would ever make the Ring of Honor, citing his past problems with substance abuse and 18-month federal prison term after being convicted of drug trafficking in 1979.
Hayes on occasion had been outspoken about his exclusions from both the Ring of Honor and Pro Football Hall of Fame. It has been speculated that his exclusion in the former has hurt his chances to be inducted in the latter. If your own franchise doesn't consider you one of its best, how can the NFL?
Sunday, Hayes was asked whether he thought the Cowboys honor would never come.
"No, I never thought that," he said. "When you revolutionize a part of pro football, if you're going to be fair, I had to be in the Ring of Honor and the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
"When I got to Dallas, they were averaging about 40,000 fans a game. I didn't come in here as a free agent. I came in here as a famous man, the fastest man in the world. I brought fans to the stadium. I'm not being conceited or cocky about it. I am telling the truth."
One honor down. One to go.

"I hope so," former Cowboys quarterback, Ring of Honor member and Hall of Famer Roger Staubach said. "It's a very deserved honor he should have. If I was casting a vote, he'd have mine."

 

[iceberg]

We should be number one on this list....we have many players who have been overlooked. "Bullet" Bob Hayes is a great example. One of the best things JJ ever did was to have him enshrined in our Ring of Honor. The HOF has yet to follow suit.


Day of contrast


Hayes tells fans he is 'overwhelmed, thrilled,' by his enshrinement into Ring of Honor


9/24/2001


By BRAD TOWNSEND / The Dallas Morning News


IRVING – Yes, there were a lot of years of waiting and wondering, Bob Hayes admitted Sunday. But there was never doubting.
Still, when the moment arrived, Hayes clasped his hands, pursed his lips and fixed misty eyes upon the blue strip that encircles Texas Stadium's inner façade.
Black tarps were pulled down, formally unveiling the 11th addition to the Dallas Cowboys' Ring of Honor – "22 Bob Hayes 1965-1974."

File
Bob Hayes holds up his Ring of Honor bowl at his induction.
In a sense, the tarps symbolized the years in which Hayes believed his achievements were being forgotten or overlooked. If there was bitterness, that, too, came down Sunday.
"I never searched for it," said the 58-year-old Hayes, who has had surgery for prostate cancer and has been treated for liver and kidney failure. "I knew it was going to come.
"You know, sometimes you don't lose sleep over something that's due. You've got to keep rising, rising and rising. It'll come."
It came during a ceremony at halftime of the Cowboys' 32-21 loss to San Diego, on an afternoon that produced a gamut of emotions.
This was the NFL's return after a week's hiatus. The league postponed games in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist-hijacked plane crashes in New York, Washington, D.C. and southeastern Pennsylvania.
On Sunday the Cowboys distributed 50,000 American flags and 65,000 red, white and blue pom-poms. A field-sized American flag was unfurled with the assistance of area military personnel, fire fighters, police officers and EMS workers.
There was somber pre-game reflection, but also fervent, flag-waving patriotism. The scene reminded Hayes of the 1964 Olympics in Tokyo, when he won two gold medals – including the 100-meter sprint – to earn the designation "World's Fastest Human."
"Today, as you looked around this stadium, you saw nothing but what?" Hayes said. "American flags. That sends a message of 'You don't scare me.'"
The fans groaned when Cowboys quarterback Anthony Wright fumbled on the second play from scrimmage, leading to an early Chargers touchdown.
But the fans sprang to their feet when the Cowboys, trailing 17-0, struck back on a play that seemed reminiscent of Don Meredith-to-Hayes in the mid-to-late '60s: Wright heaving a long, high spiral to speeding Raghib Ismail for an 80-yard touchdown.
Of Hayes' 71 touchdown receptions, which still stand as the Cowboys' record, 18 covered 50 or more yards. The halftime Ring of Honor ceremony – albeit brief – was pure nostalgia.
The only Ring of Honor members not present were coach Tom Landry, who died last February, Meredith and Don Perkins. The others rode onto the field individually in red convertibles, with Hayes riding in the last car.
Hayes, still visibly weak from his various physical ailments, stepped gingerly onto a stage in the middle of the field to a huge ovation. He hugged the other Ring of Honor members as well as Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.
Jones described Hayes as "truly a gift to all fans forevermore of the Dallas Cowboys," then turned the microphone over to Hayes. He seemed to struggle while summoning the strength, and words, to express his emotions.
"Ladies and gentlemen, it's overwhelming," Hayes told the fans. "I'm thrilled. I'm grateful. I've been blessed by the grace of God, winning two Olympic gold medals, being a world record-holder, coming to play for the world's greatest organization in the history of sports."
Later, as he sat in a golf cart in the Texas Stadium end zone tunnel, Hayes admitted: "I'm still a bit weak, but sometimes God gives me that strength to get up out of bed."
It was last spring that Jones phoned Hayes with the news that he would be enshrined in the Ring. At the time, Hayes was described by family and friends to be near death. He was still in a wheelchair when Jones flew Hayes and his family to Irving for a press conference earlier this year.
"Jerry Jones has been tremendously nice to me," Hayes said Sunday. "Not only because my name is going up in the Ring of Honor, but as a friend."
He didn't mention them in his speech to the fans, but afterward Hayes thanked Landry and former general manager Tex Schramm. Schramm wanted to attend this weekend's festivities, but recently fell and fractured a vertebra in his back. He and Hayes spoke by phone for about 30 minutes Sunday morning.
Many over the years had wondered whether Hayes would ever make the Ring of Honor, citing his past problems with substance abuse and 18-month federal prison term after being convicted of drug trafficking in 1979.
Hayes on occasion had been outspoken about his exclusions from both the Ring of Honor and Pro Football Hall of Fame. It has been speculated that his exclusion in the former has hurt his chances to be inducted in the latter. If your own franchise doesn't consider you one of its best, how can the NFL?
Sunday, Hayes was asked whether he thought the Cowboys honor would never come.
"No, I never thought that," he said. "When you revolutionize a part of pro football, if you're going to be fair, I had to be in the Ring of Honor and the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
"When I got to Dallas, they were averaging about 40,000 fans a game. I didn't come in here as a free agent. I came in here as a famous man, the fastest man in the world. I brought fans to the stadium. I'm not being conceited or cocky about it. I am telling the truth."
One honor down. One to go.

"I hope so," former Cowboys quarterback, Ring of Honor member and Hall of Famer Roger Staubach said. "It's a very deserved honor he should have. If I was casting a vote, he'd have mine."

maybe - but if we have *our* players that are overlooked, what about GB? Giants? other long time franchises?

to be honest, i didn't know we'd be #2 on the list with all the wailing and gnashing of teeth every time it comes up. how can there be a bias to the HOF when it comes to dallas when we're #2 in who we have there?

granted take out the last couple of years and we're #5 or 6, but still...

the only thing this tells me is people (overly-avid fans) aren't really 100% objective when it comes to the HOF. the last run of aikman, irvin and so forth does help curve that, but wow.

how can we be upset at this overall?

 

[zrinkill]

Its great that the 90's players are finally getting the Cowboys the recognition they deserve.


And we all know that Smith and Allen will be first ballot guys.

 

[Doomsday]

Doesnt Denver have 2, Sharpe and Elway?

Never mind guess he hasnt been retired long enough yet.

 

[TheProphet]

Who here feels that some former Cowboys have been overlooked for HOF?

I for one do. One of the best examples is "Bullet" Bob Hayes. Article below highlights when he was enshrined in the Ring of Honor (which was past due and one of the best moves JJ ever made). His stats speak for themselves. He changed the way WR's were viewed in the NFL. It is a crime that he has yet to be inducted into the Hall.

State who you believe is worthy and why.


Day of contrast


Hayes tells fans he is 'overwhelmed, thrilled,' by his enshrinement into Ring of Honor


9/24/2001


By BRAD TOWNSEND / The Dallas Morning News


IRVING – Yes, there were a lot of years of waiting and wondering, Bob Hayes admitted Sunday. But there was never doubting.
Still, when the moment arrived, Hayes clasped his hands, pursed his lips and fixed misty eyes upon the blue strip that encircles Texas Stadium's inner façade.
Black tarps were pulled down, formally unveiling the 11th addition to the Dallas Cowboys' Ring of Honor – "22 Bob Hayes 1965-1974."

File
Bob Hayes holds up his Ring of Honor bowl at his induction.
In a sense, the tarps symbolized the years in which Hayes believed his achievements were being forgotten or overlooked. If there was bitterness, that, too, came down Sunday.
"I never searched for it," said the 58-year-old Hayes, who has had surgery for prostate cancer and has been treated for liver and kidney failure. "I knew it was going to come.
"You know, sometimes you don't lose sleep over something that's due. You've got to keep rising, rising and rising. It'll come."
It came during a ceremony at halftime of the Cowboys' 32-21 loss to San Diego, on an afternoon that produced a gamut of emotions.
This was the NFL's return after a week's hiatus. The league postponed games in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist-hijacked plane crashes in New York, Washington, D.C. and southeastern Pennsylvania.
On Sunday the Cowboys distributed 50,000 American flags and 65,000 red, white and blue pom-poms. A field-sized American flag was unfurled with the assistance of area military personnel, fire fighters, police officers and EMS workers.
There was somber pre-game reflection, but also fervent, flag-waving patriotism. The scene reminded Hayes of the 1964 Olympics in Tokyo, when he won two gold medals – including the 100-meter sprint – to earn the designation "World's Fastest Human."
"Today, as you looked around this stadium, you saw nothing but what?" Hayes said. "American flags. That sends a message of 'You don't scare me.'"
The fans groaned when Cowboys quarterback Anthony Wright fumbled on the second play from scrimmage, leading to an early Chargers touchdown.
But the fans sprang to their feet when the Cowboys, trailing 17-0, struck back on a play that seemed reminiscent of Don Meredith-to-Hayes in the mid-to-late '60s: Wright heaving a long, high spiral to speeding Raghib Ismail for an 80-yard touchdown.
Of Hayes' 71 touchdown receptions, which still stand as the Cowboys' record, 18 covered 50 or more yards. The halftime Ring of Honor ceremony – albeit brief – was pure nostalgia.
The only Ring of Honor members not present were coach Tom Landry, who died last February, Meredith and Don Perkins. The others rode onto the field individually in red convertibles, with Hayes riding in the last car.
Hayes, still visibly weak from his various physical ailments, stepped gingerly onto a stage in the middle of the field to a huge ovation. He hugged the other Ring of Honor members as well as Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.
Jones described Hayes as "truly a gift to all fans forevermore of the Dallas Cowboys," then turned the microphone over to Hayes. He seemed to struggle while summoning the strength, and words, to express his emotions.
"Ladies and gentlemen, it's overwhelming," Hayes told the fans. "I'm thrilled. I'm grateful. I've been blessed by the grace of God, winning two Olympic gold medals, being a world record-holder, coming to play for the world's greatest organization in the history of sports."
Later, as he sat in a golf cart in the Texas Stadium end zone tunnel, Hayes admitted: "I'm still a bit weak, but sometimes God gives me that strength to get up out of bed."
It was last spring that Jones phoned Hayes with the news that he would be enshrined in the Ring. At the time, Hayes was described by family and friends to be near death. He was still in a wheelchair when Jones flew Hayes and his family to Irving for a press conference earlier this year.
"Jerry Jones has been tremendously nice to me," Hayes said Sunday. "Not only because my name is going up in the Ring of Honor, but as a friend."
He didn't mention them in his speech to the fans, but afterward Hayes thanked Landry and former general manager Tex Schramm. Schramm wanted to attend this weekend's festivities, but recently fell and fractured a vertebra in his back. He and Hayes spoke by phone for about 30 minutes Sunday morning.
Many over the years had wondered whether Hayes would ever make the Ring of Honor, citing his past problems with substance abuse and 18-month federal prison term after being convicted of drug trafficking in 1979.
Hayes on occasion had been outspoken about his exclusions from both the Ring of Honor and Pro Football Hall of Fame. It has been speculated that his exclusion in the former has hurt his chances to be inducted in the latter. If your own franchise doesn't consider you one of its best, how can the NFL?
Sunday, Hayes was asked whether he thought the Cowboys honor would never come.
"No, I never thought that," he said. "When you revolutionize a part of pro football, if you're going to be fair, I had to be in the Ring of Honor and the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
"When I got to Dallas, they were averaging about 40,000 fans a game. I didn't come in here as a free agent. I came in here as a famous man, the fastest man in the world. I brought fans to the stadium. I'm not being conceited or cocky about it. I am telling the truth."
One honor down. One to go.

"I hope so," former Cowboys quarterback, Ring of Honor member and Hall of Famer Roger Staubach said. "It's a very deserved honor he should have. If I was casting a vote, he'd have mine."

 

[TheProphet]

maybe - but if we have *our* players that are overlooked, what about GB? Giants? other long time franchises?

to be honest, i didn't know we'd be #2 on the list with all the wailing and gnashing of teeth every time it comes up. how can there be a bias to the HOF when it comes to dallas when we're #2 in who we have there?

granted take out the last couple of years and we're #5 or 6, but still...

the only thing this tells me is people (overly-avid fans) aren't really 100% objective when it comes to the HOF. the last run of aikman, irvin and so forth does help curve that, but wow.

how can we be upset at this overall?

I'm not upset over the numbers, they are great and speak for themselves. Bullet Bob should be in though, IMO.

 

[superpunk]

maybe - but if we have *our* players that are overlooked, what about GB? Giants? other long time franchises?

to be honest, i didn't know we'd be #2 on the list with all the wailing and gnashing of teeth every time it comes up. how can there be a bias to the HOF when it comes to dallas when we're #2 in who we have there?

granted take out the last couple of years and we're #5 or 6, but still...

the only thing this tells me is people (overly-avid fans) aren't really 100% objective when it comes to the HOF. the last run of aikman, irvin and so forth does help curve that, but wow.

how can we be upset at this overall?

I think when you're Bob Hayes - and they invented zone defense because there was no other way to defend you - you deserve in.

But like you said, there are doubtless many such qualms from various teams. I just don't know what they might be. When you've been the NFL's most successful franchise since your inception, you're gonna be rep'd pretty well.

BTW...technically the RAVENS have 4 and the Browns have none...

 

[iceberg]

I'm not upset over the numbers, they are great and speak for themselves. Bullet Bob should be in though, IMO.

i won't argue bb, (bullet bob in this instance) he seems to be a glaring oversight. but i've heard whining over the years of how we're snubbed.

the #'s don't seem to back that up. player selection for who did make it could be in question, but not overall #s.

 

[sago1]

Before we go any further, can you tell me who are the HOF Cowboys? Too many of them are players who've been with us no more than a year and who went in as a player on other teams but our critics include them in our list. That's not fair. In order to be considered a Cowboy going into the HOF, he should have spent either the majority of his football career with the Cowboy, or he performed at an extremely high level with his for a long period of time, or even if just a Cowboy for 3 years he was so great as to ensure playoff/SB performances for us.

 

[DallasEast]

Before we go any further, can you tell me who are the HOF Cowboys?

See my avatar :

 

[DallasInDC]

Doesnt Denver have 2, Sharpe and Elway?

Never mind guess he hasnt been retired long enough yet.

Its hard to believ that denver only has 1. I would have expected at least 1or 2 more.

Atlanta, NO - 0. It suxs to be them.

 

[DallasEast]

Its hard to believ that denver only has 1. I would have expected at least 1or 2 more.

Atlanta, NO - 0. It suxs to be them.

Speaking of the Falcons, it is a travesty that Jeff Van Note hasn't been inducted yet. Great player for a so-so franchise.

 

[Established1971]

Great Post I always wondered how many teams had players in the Hall. We all know that the boys have been snubbed in the hall so they should be ahead in this tally. I have a question also shouldn't Eric Dickerson be counted only as a Ram do to him getting a bulk of his carries with them.

I just looked at years and he had the same for the colts and Rams

 

[Established1971]

maybe - but if we have *our* players that are overlooked, what about GB? Giants? other long time franchises?

to be honest, i didn't know we'd be #2 on the list with all the wailing and gnashing of teeth every time it comes up. how can there be a bias to the HOF when it comes to dallas when we're #2 in who we have there?

granted take out the last couple of years and we're #5 or 6, but still...

the only thing this tells me is people (overly-avid fans) aren't really 100% objective when it comes to the HOF. the last run of aikman, irvin and so forth does help curve that, but wow.

how can we be upset at this overall?

actually we are #4 on the list

 

[Established1971]

Before we go any further, can you tell me who are the HOF Cowboys? Too many of them are players who've been with us no more than a year and who went in as a player on other teams but our critics include them in our list. That's not fair. In order to be considered a Cowboy going into the HOF, he should have spent either the majority of his football career with the Cowboy, or he performed at an extremely high level with his for a long period of time, or even if just a Cowboy for 3 years he was so great as to ensure playoff/SB performances for us.

TROY AIKMAN (2006) - 1989-2000
TONY DORSETT (1994) - 1977-1987
TOM LANDRY (1990) - 1960-1988
BOB LILLY (1980) - 1961-1974
MEL RENFRO (1996) - 1964-1977
TEX SCHRAMM (1991) - 1960-1989
ROGER STAUBACH (1985) - 1969-1979
RANDY WHITE (1994) - 1975-1988
RAYFIELD WRIGHT (2006) - 1967-1979
Michael Irvin (2007) - 1988-1999

I wasnt counting Gre,, alworth, ditka, jackie smith, tommy mcdonald and herb adderley

 

[DallasInDC]

In the next 3-7 years we should be sitting at 14 if you include ES, LA (depending on when he retires) Dion Sanders and Charles Haley. It will still be at least 2 shorter than where we should be with Hayes and Pearson missing

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Giants have only 4 players in the Hall. That is hard to believe.

 

[Established1971]

In the next 3-7 years we should be sitting at 14 if you include ES, LA (depending on when he retires) Dion Sanders and Charles Haley. It will still be at least 2 shorter than where we should be with Hayes and Pearson missing

I dont know Haley is probably more attributable to SF and Sanders to Atlanta, but then again there are no rules to this of course.