Adjusted needs after 72 hours post fa!

[cnuball21]

For sure, just adding in another variable. Trey McBride was a monster in the Offense Klayton came from, so a really good TE could supplement that WR2 spot a little.

Hopefully getting Ferguson back and Schoon stepping up helps.

 

[tm1119]

No idea what order, but I’ll be pretty shocked if the 1st 3 picks aren’t WR, RB, and CB.

 

[morasp]

We seem to be moving towards what the Eagles did last year with a strong running game to set up play action passing. I looked up the numbers for them and it was intersting.

Devonta Smith 68/833
AJ Brown 67/1079
Dallas Goedert 42/496
Saquon Barkley 345/2005

Last year Lamb was 101/1194
Cooks was 26/259
Tolbert was 49/610

Lamb put up better numbers than Brown but Cooks and Tolbert were behind Smith
There were 4 rookie WRs last year that put up better numbers than Smith

Brian Thomas 87/1282
Malik Nabers 109/1204
Ladd McConkey 82/1149
Marvin Harrison 62/885

Using the NFL grading system they would stack up like this to this years draft class

Malik Nabers 6.86
Marvin Harrison Jr. 6.83
Luther Burden III 6.47
Brian Thomas Jr. 6.47
Matt Golden 6.42
Ladd McConkey 6.4
Tetairoa McMillan 6.4
Emeka Egbuka 6.37

No Rookie RBs came close to Barkley.

For our offense to move towards what the eagles did we need a blue chip RB, WR, and probably some upgrades to the OL. Burden, Golden, McMillan, and maybe Egbuka could conceivably get you to Smith's numbers. Jackson or Membou could help fix the OL and Jeanty is probably the closest thing to Barkley.

 

[NDGAEDE]

No idea what order, but I’ll be pretty shocked if the 1st 3 picks aren’t WR, RB, and CB.

Agreed. I was thinking they'd be looking at DE, but I'm not so sure with the #s they've invested there. Kneeland, Parsons as starters + Sam, Fowler, Turner as backups.

Knowing how the team (and the rest of the league) values those three positions, I'd guess the order would be either WR or CB in the first and second followed by RB in the third.

If I were a betting man, I'd say it's very likely Will Johnson is our first pick

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Yep!
Or he was as of this morning.
But he had a horrible season last year.
PFF scores in mid 30s!

Seriously we need to move on from this idea that plugging in scraps, JAGs, etc. is going to fix the run D problem.

 

[reddyuta]

Agreed. I was thinking they'd be looking at DE, but I'm not so sure with the #s they've invested there. Kneeland, Parsons as starters + Sam, Fowler, Turner as backups.

Knowing how the team (and the rest of the league) values those three positions, I'd guess the order would be either WR or CB in the first and second followed by RB in the third.

If I were a betting man, I'd say it's very likely Will Johnson is our first pick

he needs to run in a private workout,hard for the team to select him at 12 without any testing at all .

 

[NDGAEDE]

he needs to run in a private workout,hard for the team to select him at 12 without any testing at all .

Assuming his testing goes well, I'd pencil him in as the favorite. I don't think Diggs is long for the team.

 

[visionary]

Majority of fa signings were more depth pieces in my opinion, but they have lost multiple starters in DLaw/Golston, Kendricks, Lewis, Martin. Still have a huge hole at #2 WR, need a #1 back, more depth needed at LB and NT.

Priority Needs (top 3 Needs), in no particular order: DE, CB, WR, RB
Secondary Needs: LB, NT

You can make a case all 6 are priority needs.

DT still #1 for me

 

[Mr_437]

We seem to be moving towards what the Eagles did last year with a strong running game to set up play action passing. I looked up the numbers for them and it was intersting.

Devonta Smith 68/833
AJ Brown 67/1079
Dallas Goedert 42/496
Saquon Barkley 345/2005

Last year Lamb was 101/1194
Cooks was 26/259
Tolbert was 49/610

Lamb put up better numbers than Brown but Cooks and Tolbert were behind Smith

A+ post, my friend.
Just wanted to add Fergy had 59/494.

 

[Mr_437]

There were 4 rookie WRs last year that put up better numbers than Smith

Brian Thomas 87/1282
Malik Nabers 109/1204
Ladd McConkey 82/1149
Marvin Harrison 62/885

Using the NFL grading system they would stack up like this to this years draft class

Malik Nabers 6.86
Marvin Harrison Jr. 6.83
Luther Burden III 6.47
Brian Thomas Jr. 6.47
Matt Golden 6.42
Ladd McConkey 6.4
Tetairoa McMillan 6.4
Emeka Egbuka 6.37

No Rookie RBs came close to Barkley

Masterful work right here, makes me more bullish on drafting a WR vs signing a WR2 in FA. It will be interesting to see how this crop of WR stack up to last years...I'm especially high on Golden.

Dallas seems stuck on a RB committee approach, but hopefully they get an RB1 who can be Top 12.

 

[gimmesix]

AS I mentioned, outside of Kneeland, none are considered good run the defenders that can consistently set the edge. Turner might be the only other one with that skill, the others are strong pass rushers.

That's why I think Kneeland and Turner will be out there on first down. I assume Parsons will be at a linebacker position on those downs, but I'm not sure because Eberflus doesn't like to blitz.

What that means is if teams pass on first down, we would have Kneeland and Turner as our pass rushers, which isn't the best strategy based on their pass rush production so far.

I do wonder if Eberflus might alter his strategy to attack with Parsons and drop one of them into zone. However, he does like to keep it simple and let the front-four attack, so he may play Parsons at RDE even on run downs when he's out there and just have the others sub in some for him on those downs to keep him fresh.

I mean, if we play Parsons on 80 percent of the snaps to keep him fresh, then whoever replaces him when he's out could do it on run downs. Teams spend two-thirds of the time in nickel defense, so he could be out there for all of that if they replaced him on most first-down plays.

 

[gimmesix]

AS I mentioned, outside of Kneeland, none are considered good run the defenders that can consistently set the edge. Turner might be the only other one with that skill, the others are strong pass rushers.

That's why I think Kneeland and Turner will be out there on first down. I assume Parsons will be at a linebacker position on those downs, but I'm not sure because Eberflus doesn't like to blitz.

What that means is if teams pass on first down, we would have Kneeland and Turner as our pass rushers, which isn't the best strategy based on their pass rush production so far.

I do wonder if Eberflus might alter his strategy to attack with Parsons and drop one of them into zone. However, he does like to keep it simple and let the front-four attack, so he may play Parsons at RDE even on run downs when he's out there and just have the others sub in some for him on those downs to keep him fresh.

I mean, if we play Parsons on 80 percent of the snaps to keep him fresh, then whoever replaces him when he's out could do it on run downs. Teams spend two-thirds of the time in nickel defense, so he could be out there for all of the nickel snaps and some of the regular 4-3 snaps.

 

[morasp]

A+ post, my friend.
Just wanted to add Fergy had 59/494.

Good catch, I should have looked that up. And that was with him missing 3 games.

 

[gimmesix]

DT still #1 for me

It is for me, too, but I'm not sure the value is there. Even though I really like Nolen and would take him at 12, I'm not sure we'll have him or Harmon that high on our boards.

I think our value option at DT would be Graham, while our value options at RB (Jeanty), WR (McMillan) and CB (Barron or Johnson) have a better chance of being there at 12.

If all those are gone, it's going to depend on where we have the receivers (Burden, Egbuka, Golden) and other first-round RB (Hampton) compared to the DTs.

Of course, it's possible that the top player available when we pick might be an OL or DE. But I don't know how much those players will be rated above the others.

Like I said, I'd take Nolen, I just don't expect the team, too, based on the contract they handed Osa and having spent a first-round pick on an NT two years ago.

 

[NDGAEDE]

DT still #1 for me

It should be for the team as well, but I don't think they're going to admit defeat on Mazi just yet.

I could see them investing a relatively decent pick on someone like Alfred Collins, depending on the board. But I don't see them using a 1, that's for sure.

 

[visionary]

It is for me, too, but I'm not sure the value is there. Even though I really like Nolen and would take him at 12, I'm not sure we'll have him or Harmon that high on our boards.

I think our value option at DT would be Graham, while our value options at RB (Jeanty), WR (McMillan) and CB (Barron or Johnson) have a better chance of being there at 12.

If all those are gone, it's going to depend on where we have the receivers (Burden, Egbuka, Golden) and other first-round RB (Hampton) compared to the DTs.

Of course, it's possible that the top player available when we pick might be an OL or DE. But I don't know how much those players will be rated above the others.

Like I said, I'd take Nolen, I just don't expect the team, too, based on the contract they handed Osa and having spent a first-round pick on an NT two years ago.

Id be ok with Tet but not the other options you listed

Either Tet or trade down

 

[gimmesix]

Id be ok with Tet but not the other options you listed

Either Tet or trade down

I'd be OK with a trade down if Graham, Jeanty, McMillan, Barron and Johnson are gone. Slide down a little to where those DTs are valued and take Nolen, Harmon or Grant. It would probably need to be no lower than 20.

If there was a run on DTs and they were gone after trading down to 20, I'd be good with Hampton or the receivers there.

Part of the good of that would be getting an extra early pick to address the priority needs. We could get a DT and still address WR, CB and RB by the third round.

 

[gimmesix]

I'd be OK with a trade down if Graham, Jeanty, McMillan, Barron and Johnson are gone. Slide down a little to where those DTs are valued and take Nolen, Harmon or Grant. It would probably need to be no lower than 20.

If there was a run on DTs and they were gone after trading down to 20, I'd be good with Hampton or the receivers there.

Part of the good of that would be getting an extra early pick to address the priority needs. We could get a DT and still address WR, CB and RB by the third round.

Something like:

20 DT Derrick Harmon (with Nolen gone)
44 CB Azareyeh Thomas
51 WR Jack Bech
76 RB Dylan Sampson

 

[Cowboyny]

That's why I think Kneeland and Turner will be out there on first down. I assume Parsons will be at a linebacker position on those downs, but I'm not sure because Eberflus doesn't like to blitz.

What that means is if teams pass on first down, we would have Kneeland and Turner as our pass rushers, which isn't the best strategy based on their pass rush production so far.

I do wonder if Eberflus might alter his strategy to attack with Parsons and drop one of them into zone. However, he does like to keep it simple and let the front-four attack, so he may play Parsons at RDE even on run downs when he's out there and just have the others sub in some for him on those downs to keep him fresh.

I mean, if we play Parsons on 80 percent of the snaps to keep him fresh, then whoever replaces him when he's out could do it on run downs. Teams spend two-thirds of the time in nickel defense, so he could be out there for all of the nickel snaps and some of the regular 4-3 snaps.

I would be surprised if Parsons is playing off the ball linebacker, think he is going to be our full-time RE. Like the idea of him playing off the ball, but two DC's already said otherwise.

Kneeland/Turner probably will compete to become the base (run) starter at LE, where the likes of Fowler/Sam Williams will be more of the nickel pass rushers at the position. Do they trust them enough to handle the role?

Right now we have our 3 starting linebackers, but we really need depth at the position along with find a future upgrade over Murray.

 

[Cowboyny]

DT still #1 for me

Haven't done jack squat to help their run defense thus far.