After Re-watching The Game...

[CoCo]

I was too hard on Bledsoe in some respects.

Now I only rewatched the 2nd half so take this with a grain of salt.

Most of the sacks in the 2nd half Bledsoe really didn't have a chance and Philly's pass rush schemes just worked to perfection.

Wish I'd logged all the key plays but suffice to say that I found mistakes by just about every lineman on pass protection but no one player really stood out as consistently poor in pass protection.

And give Philly credit. It was very impressive how they executed. Their timing was brilliant really and I wonder how often they are truly capable of executing at that level. They were in the zone. Hats off to them.

Now the picks are a different story. I don't see how you excuse the "loft" to TO that Sheppard easily picked, nor the 102 yd pick. I don't care if Witten was supposed to turn out, Sheppard was still right there. Witten was covered both inside and outside. He's the only player essentially doubled. Horrible choise by Drew.

But my primary point after the game had been that Drew's immobility was making the pass rush better than it really was and after rewatching the 2nd half, with a couple exceptions, I gotta say I was wrong and it would have taken a player like Elway, Vick or Steve Young to avoid that pass rush and even then its uncertain what they could have done with the play.

But on both 2nd half picks there was no pressure when Drew made very poor throws.

 

[diamond cutter]

I didn't record the game, but it seemed to me that there weren't many screens, draws, and 3 step drops being called to off-set the rush. Did you get the same feeling when re-watching it?

 

[baj1dallas]

I think the point wrt Bledsoe is that you don't have to be Steve Young or Mike Vick to avoid the sack. You need to take two steps away from the pressure, but Bledsoe doesn't like to do that. I guess it disrupts his timing.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'm almost finished with charting the game. Bledsoe was pretty solid in the first half. However, I noticed that his play got much worse and he started getting timid after his touchdown run.


YAKUZA

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

But my primary point after the game had been that Drew's immobility was making the pass rush better than it really was and after rewatching the 2nd half, with a couple exceptions, I gotta say I was wrong and it would have taken a player like Elway, Vick or Steve Young to avoid that pass rush and even then its uncertain what they could have done with the play.

Or Romo...

 

[YosemiteSam]

After NOT Re-watching The Game... I still blame Bledsoe. :laugh2:

 

[ravidubey]

I didn't record the game, but it seemed to me that there weren't many screens, draws, and 3 step drops being called to off-set the rush. Did you get the same feeling when re-watching it?

Also, I only saw one rollout in the second half and it was a successful play to TG. Where were the rollouts? Did the coaching staff not know whom they were playing?

We also need to use the shotgun in obvious passing situations. Bledsoe can audible at the line and back up; teams do this all the time.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

When turnovers are twice as many as TDs, I can't see throwing the blame elsewhere. It's not always the line, receivers, backs, etc., fault when the same person is making the mistakes. As The Player would say, a rat is a rat is a rat.

 

[juck]

Flo was horrid,just horrid.Where art thou SHOTGUN?

 

[Yeagermeister]

I erased it from my dvr when Shepperd was at around the 30 yard line

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Flo was horrid,just horrid.Where art thou SHOTGUN?

After almost finishing charting the game, I understand Parcells' point about the shotgun and Flozell. Flozell's problem wasn't so much just being unable to block from a physical standpoint, it was really him continually getting fooled on stunts and blitzes.

There were some plays that called for patterns to be ran by WR's that were too long and the shotgun probably wouldn't have made a difference. Even still, it's not wise to just think that going to the shotgun is the remedy. Flozell needs to get his game back on track.


YAKUZA

 

[Homerun Trot]

Any QB will struggle if he's getting hit while finishing his three step drops. It seems like because Drew held the ball way too long on the seventh sack, that the first six were automatically his fault, which isn't true at all.

 

[Doomsday101]

Any QB will struggle if he's getting hit while finishing his three step drops. It seems like because Drew held the ball way too long on the seventh sack, that the first six were automatically his fault, which isn't true at all.

I agree. However I think it is easier to lay the blame on one person than a group of players because some feel by replacing the 1 all the big problems are solved. I don't buy into that mindset and while Bledsoe deserves his fair share of the blame it appears he is getting the biggest part of the blame. Lucky for Dallas Bledsoe can handle the criticism. We don’t have to worry about him puffing of the bong because the heat is too much to handle.
:laugh2:

 

[WV Cowboy]

Some are missing the point.

The reason the Iggles were able to blitz like they did is because our QB is on crutches in the pocket.

Few OLines could have withstood what the Iggles brought, but they wouldn't have been able to blitz the way they did if they feared our QB would scramble, move in the pocket and buy time, roll out, etc and beat their blitz.

They knew DB would be sitting in the same place play after play.

That is the reason we will always struggle against playoff caliber defenses with this QB.

Our OLine could have done better, but it always helps if the QB can improvise.

 

[Homerun Trot]

Some are missing the point.

The reason the Iggles were able to blitz like they did is because our QB is on crutches in the pocket.

Few OLines could have withstood what the Iggles brought, but they wouldn't have been able to blitz the way they did if they feared our QB would scramble, move in the pocket and buy time, roll out, etc and beat their blitz.

They knew DB would be sitting in the same place play after play.

That is the reason we will always struggle against playoff caliber defenses with this QB.

Our OLine could have done better, but it always helps if the QB can improvise.

As Drew and Parcells have both said this week, the inside guys have to be blocked, no quarterback can beat the blitz if its right up the middle, right away. The oline was prioritizing the outiside rushers over the inside guys. And if they do that again vs. Houston, we could actually lose again.

 

[CoCo]

Some are missing the point.

The reason the Iggles were able to blitz like they did is because our QB is on crutches in the pocket.

Few OLines could have withstood what the Iggles brought, but they wouldn't have been able to blitz the way they did if they feared our QB would scramble, move in the pocket and buy time, roll out, etc and beat their blitz.

They knew DB would be sitting in the same place play after play.

That is the reason we will always struggle against playoff caliber defenses with this QB.

Our OLine could have done better, but it always helps if the QB can improvise.

I certainly agree that a more mobile QB would help but if you rewatch that 2nd half I believe you will walk away thinking it would make more sense to fix the O-line because anyone would have been running for their lives.

I'm not sure it makes sense to criticize Drew for not being Steve Young mobility-wise.

I'll say this, I don''t believe a young Troy Aikman would have fared significantly better in the 2nd half against those blitz's. I don't think he'd have thrown the two picks, but those weren't about QB pressure/mobility. They were about brain freeze I guess.

 

[WV Cowboy]

no quarterback can beat the blitz if its right up the middle, right away.

You don't believe that do you ?

Have you never seen a QB duck under a rushing Dlineman and find a back to avoid a sack, .. sidestep an oncoming rusher to buy time, or curl back and roll out of the pocket one way or the other to avoid the rush and make a big play ?

Once you do that successfully once or twice, the blitz will slow down.

If the QB can't get out of the way, the blitz will not only continue, but escalate.

Guess what happened Sun ?

 

[CoCo]

I didn't record the game, but it seemed to me that there weren't many screens, draws, and 3 step drops being called to off-set the rush. Did you get the same feeling when re-watching it?

On that point, 3 step drops vs a blitz can be tough because while it may neutralize the pressure a bit, the coverage is pressing to take away those short routes and you end up with very risky passes. We did a couple of those and they were almost picked. You may recall the quick out to TO that Sheppard jumped the route on.

I think more screens was a possibility though. You recall the one very successful screen to Julius. There was another to Barber on the right that had Rivera & Gurode out in front vs Sheppard. Gurode assumed Rivera could handle him and moved downfield. Rivera wiffed, and Sheppard brought down Barber. It should have worked beautifully, but Rivera got played by Sheppard.

btw - In retrospect, Sheppard owned us. In part certainly because of our ineptitude, but he owned us.

 

[CoCo]

Any QB will struggle if he's getting hit while finishing his three step drops. It seems like because Drew held the ball way too long on the seventh sack, that the first six were automatically his fault, which isn't true at all.

I think I fell victim to this thinking while watching live. Its only after rewatching that I realized the other 2nd half sacks were not avoidable by Drew.

And truthfully it was not gross incompetence by the O-line either. Each made an ill-timed mistake and it was impressive how Philly was always right there to take advantage of it.

My hat is off to Philly, but honestly I'm not sure they could catch lightning in a bottle again to the magnitude they did in this game. The rematch will be equally awesome to watch imo.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I certainly agree that a more mobile QB would help but if you rewatch that 2nd half I believe you will walk away thinking it would make more sense to fix the O-line because anyone would have been running for their lives.

You are still missing my point.

They would not still have been blitzing us like crazy in the 2nd half if our QB would have made them pay for blitzing us in the first half.

Either by avoiding the rush in some way, or beating them with quick throws.

He did not, and the blitz intensified, ... it was like sharks in bloody water, a feeding frenzy.

That is the only reason I think Romo may help the situation, not because I think he is better than DB.