After the wait what if it's the whole band brought back of coaches?

I think it pretty much will be with the exception of maybe a few assistant coaches and free agents
 
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Carson said:
DL - Parsons, Mazi, Kneeland, Williams, Rogers. You likely see them try to retain Osa, Golston and Lawson. But that’s a solid 4 at DE if one is retained.

LB - Liafau, Overshown (hopefully back sooner). You likely see another vet MLB signed.

CB - Diggs, Bland, Carson. Lewis likely comes back as he says he wants to be herett

S - They likely release Hooker or Wilson and roll with Thomas/Bell opposite of whomever they keep.

I don’t think it’s as dire as you are making it out to be. They definitely need to nail at least 1-2 new starters via draft and free agency.

LB is the scariest of all. But if they sign Kendrick’s back and sign a guy like Dre Greenlaw it becomes a strength
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I hear you, but I'm talking about players that are on contract.

When you said retain Osa, Golston and Lawson - as I was saying think about last year in a time when we're supposed to be going for it. You dont think the boys in Washington or some reasonable replacement would have helpd? Do you think they'll pay those guys? Maybe Lawson. I'm not even bashing Mazi.

CB - Diggs is hurt, no gaurantee he comes back the same. Bland is a stud. Carson major disappointment.
I guess we agree to disagree, I just see so many holes that our lazy GM (Stephen) and cheap GM (Stephen) and crazy mouthpiece (Jerry) will do anything competent. Stephen been setting up for months we got no room.
 
I doubt it matters.

What matters is things like. Who was it that decided Zeke would start even though anyone with eyes knew it wouldn't go well? If the coaches made that decision they should be fired. If that came from above them then changing coaches wouldn't help anyway.

If the coaches are not allowed to make such decisions it's an issue. If they are too scared to make them they aren't ready to coach at this level.
 
Tbh im prepared for this, and they will make sure to fire the strength and conditioning coach to show they mean business and set an example.
 
Aven8 said:
Meaning the entire staff from 2024? What’s your opinion?

Prepare yourselves as Jerry waits it out and then generally reverts back to what he knows. Only reason anything changed last season was DQ left with his assistants.
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Look I'm always confused with these type of posts what exactly is your goal to get a temperature of a fan base but the problem is we don't care about feelings it doesn't matter how the fans feel they have no choice in the matter I mean what are you gonna do threaten to leave jump off the bandwagon we get those oh I'm out the whole I'm out I'm out I'm out never again am I giving Jerry any energy I'm not buying jerseys I'm not seeing games but here we are a lot of y'all that say that are talking about the Cowboys on a daily basis and to me that's a lot of effort for not being interested in jerry jones run cowboys..

I think we already know how most of the fans feel there's been polls there's about 40 posts just on potential coaches and coaching changes and what Jerry may or may not do and what Mike McCarthy may or may not do and what Mike Zimmer may or may not do all the way back to when most of us felt like it could be over when Prescott went down we're below 500 and after Jerry stipulating that it was playoffs or bust we've been talking about this probably since I don't know November at least I mean he could go further back than that and then we keep having new posts about it it doesn't matter how about we wait till Wednesday when we have bit more information to go by because on Wednesday there's gotta be news either Mike McCarthy's interviewing elsewhere which still leaves him coming back here slightly open but it means that negotiations broke down for whatever reason and we will be able to debate this from a different angle we will have all the information come Wednesday then we can start talking about real change and how we feel about it but let me reiterate...

It does not matter what happens with the off seasons doesn't matter who the coaches are it doesn't matter who they draft it doesn't matter how free agency works out because you're either gonna still be a fan and watch the games and we could debate some football or you could walk the people who are in between are the most annoying people on earth you keep claiming you don't care anymore and that you can't care less and let those people post all over the Internet 24 hours a day seven days a week they make sure they drop into every cowboy related social media page on Facebook bleachers report here and they make their claim that it's over for them they no longer are fans and yet they talk about the Cowboys so much that they don't realize that Jerry still owns space in your head rent free literally that is his goal right that publicity the remaining relevant means that people are still talking about the Cowboys even though they claim they don't care about the Cowboys and yet it's on all the sports shows were linked to every free agent every draftee every possible coach even when they're not even available it's insane to think anything else.

So feelings don't matter 2025 will come and we will have football to watch and most of us don't care how you feel because it doesn't matter we have no control we literally watch football we debate football because most of us love football and most of us are die hard Cowboys fans and we're gonna keep watching no matter what and if they're having a good season I might even consider buying a ticket and going to a game given I live 8 miles from the stadium and it's no big deal but the season has to mean something for me to go to a game if it's a lost season why do I wanna go see a game full of backups playing I don't need to see Cooper rush throwing the Mingo I mean literally I'm still a fan but I'll choose when I buy things or when I go to a game or just simply watch every game and I do watch every game that's possible to watch on TV.

Anyone who thinks otherwise are really fooling themselves are really delusional we have no choice feelings don't matter this is not our team this is Jerry's team he will run it how he sees fit and if we want to watch football there's not much choice in the matter...

But those who are that upset please step on out delete your accounts don't talk about the Cowboys anymore we won't miss you won't even know you're gone......


Now just trying to get over my gut punch so yeah I'm extra salty this morning my Texas Longhorns found a way to lose just like the Dallas Cowboys do to be on the one yard line from tying the game and instead of either kicking a field goal or scoring or at least if you're gonna turn it over on downs you have them backed up inside the one yard line you never know what can happen Nope our stupid quarterback once again inside the five yard line fumbles he's good for that I don't know how he's making any NFL but thank God the Quinn error is over...
 
Aven8 said:
Meaning the entire staff from 2024? What’s your opinion?

Prepare yourselves as Jerry waits it out and then generally reverts back to what he knows. Only reason anything changed last season was DQ left with his assistants.
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What preparation do we need I mean are you telling me somehow it's gonna be any different for us watching the Dallas Cowboys in 2025 regardless of who the coaching staff is again no control it doesn't matter and we've talked about this at nauseam we've been talking about possible coaching changes since last and then he ended up coming back then we were for sure if we had a losing season he wasn't coming back and now he might come back the staff might come back what are we gonna do about it absolutely nothing....


You all and most of you all will just complain about the offseason the draft the free agents you'll start this whole redundant circle of everything that seems to be copied and pasted over and over about Jerry Jones in the off seasons it'll just start all over again and really it never this is the end but why are we keep talking about the coaching and what possible coaches could be here or the other coaches returning we've been saying this since November and really it's been a long talk since last offseason this is not stop...

Why do we need all the redundant posts the repeat post go look right down on the front page about possible coaching changes or Mike McCarthy coming back I believe there's at least 17 and you have to have another new one about bracing ourselves for what I don't think watching football and debating football changes year to year we're still gonna be fans watching the game hoping for our team to win and then we discuss the games week to week that is what this is it's a week to week league it's a year to year type deal..


Each season's A1 off we get what we get the players the coaches it's not gonna matter they're gonna be wearing the star and they're gonna be playing football and we're gonna be watching and debating but this kind of stuff it's nonsense you guys keep talking about the same thing 17 different ways and it's been going on since last offseason about Mike McCarthy it doesn't matter we've already spoke we've already took polls we've already voted everybody understands where we all stand but now we needed another new post this morning.

Even though let me be clear all these posts about possible reuniting it's not even new it's not even new news it's not even real news they have been open to negotiating but there has been no formal meetings literally there is no new news and yet we keep making new posts about nothing there's nothing new to discuss.

Which by the way everyone's saying Jerry's taking too long not a single new coach has been hired yet not a single new GM from what I heard has been hired yet and here we are approximately 3 days from finding out by Wednesday morning where this might really go and then we'll have something more to talk about when there's actual real news and real information to discuss this hasn't changed since last offseason about Mike McCarthy...
 
Carson said:
DL - Parsons, Mazi, Kneeland, Williams, Rogers. You likely see them try to retain Osa, Golston and Lawson. But that’s a solid 4 at DE if one is retained.

LB - Liafau, Overshown (hopefully back sooner). You likely see another vet MLB signed.

CB - Diggs, Bland, Carson. Lewis likely comes back as he says he wants to be here

S - They likely release Hooker or Wilson and roll with Thomas/Bell opposite of whomever they keep.

I don’t think it’s as dire as you are making it out to be. They definitely need to nail at least 1-2 new starters via draft and free agency.

LB is the scariest of all. But if they sign Kendrick’s back and sign a guy like Dre Greenlaw it becomes a strength
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The D was trash last year. How do you think running it back makes it any better?
 
I don’t have any major problem with the coaches.
My problem is with the roster, specifically the middle of the defense at all 3 levels - DT run stoppers, run stuffing LB, Safety range.
On Offense - maturation of our rookie OLmen and RT depth, RB, playmakers at WR.

I‘m not saying there aren’t better coaches out there, but everyone’s frontrunner for all jobs, Ben Johnson, could not do anything special with the roster we currently have. We need at least a semi-star playmaker at #2 wr, a playmaker at RB, and everything else is about finding legitimate role players at the other positions we need to fill.
 
DallasEast said:
It is unfair for any head coach to not have their starting quarterback running their offense. That cannot be argued. On the other hand, Mike McCarthy had Dak Prescott fully for three out of those five seasons too.

Injuries are a part of football. Jobs are often collateral damage because of injuries, of which are never on anyone's schedule.

In my opinion, McCarthy was unlucky two of five years. There is no guarantee he will be lucky for any span of additional seasons Jerry Jones will give him.

I wish Dallas did not have a gambler as its general manager. Someone competent in making a head coach hiring decision after doing a thoroughly vetted interview process.

In the end, Jones will gamble on who should be his 2025 head coach going forward. Maybe he will gamble on McCarthy. Maybe it will be someone else. We will all know soon but for what it is worth this is one instance when I want Jones to gamble against re-upping McCarthy, lol.
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He’s coming back
 
Aven8 said:
Meaning the entire staff from 2024? What’s your opinion?

Prepare yourselves as Jerry waits it out and then generally reverts back to what he knows. Only reason anything changed last season was DQ left with his assistants.
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I'll watch and laugh as we flail helplessly and finish 8-9.
 
Praxit said:
... I would ok with everyone except, Zimmer and OL coach. Get some fresh faces in there.
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Zimmer's D was starting to show some major glimmers of competency. I don't see where he's any sort of problem. What's up w/ wanting to get rid of him so badly?

If Jerry had given Zim the guy he wanted in the draft, T'Vondre Sweat, our D would've been massively improved. Instead, he had to make do w/ JAGs and worse. I'm curious as to why you'd put that on Zim.
 
TINGS21 said:
The D was trash last year. How do you think running it back makes it any better?
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It was not trash all year it started out especially against the Saints and there was a couple games in there it didn't look good for sure but they were trying to get used to Mike Zimmer and Mike Zimmer trying to get used to a new set of players and short handed no bland no Williams and then the injury started pretty early and never stopped we're not trash all year there were some games where they were total trash but they improved all year even though they were getting injured weekly and had two positions so ravaged that they were playing with practice squad players at key positions most of the year and yet they improved...

One side of the ball that the coaches should get an excuse, it would be the defense ,they had the most injuries probably ,11 injuries,

two positions were completely wiped out ie Pass rush and Corner,

I mean but we did see progress the more they got comfortable when Parsons got back and when they had Overshown before he got hurt for the second time this defense looked different they were leading the league over a four-game stretch and takeaways and sacks I mean they were getting pressures it looked a lot better I realize the level of competition and all that other nonsense but if there is one side of the football that gets to have an excuse it would be the defense they're the ones that have the biggest rash of injuries and multiple injuries to all positions for multiple games if not a lot of them were out hell they lost Sam Williams for the season out of the gate and we didn't have bland to start the season and then the whole list is too long for me to even remember everyone that got hurt and hurt multiple times or who was out four games or for the season the defense was so destroyed they were working with the practice squad in a lot of key areas for a long time but yet we saw them fighting hard and playing better in late the season,

that's why..
 
blueblood70 said:
It was not trash all year it started out especially against the Saints and there was a couple games in there it didn't look good for sure but they were trying to get used to Mike Zimmer and Mike Zimmer trying to get used to a new set of players and short handed no bland no Williams and then the injury started pretty early and never stopped we're not trash all year there were some games where they were total trash but they improved all year even though they were getting injured weekly and had two positions so ravaged that they were playing with practice squad players at key positions most of the year and yet they improved...

One side of the ball that the coaches should get an excuse, it would be the defense ,they had the most injuries probably ,11 injuries,

two positions were completely wiped out ie Pass rush and Corner,

I mean but we did see progress the more they got comfortable when Parsons got back and when they had Overshown before he got hurt for the second time this defense looked different they were leading the league over a four-game stretch and takeaways and sacks I mean they were getting pressures it looked a lot better I realize the level of competition and all that other nonsense but if there is one side of the football that gets to have an excuse it would be the defense they're the ones that have the biggest rash of injuries and multiple injuries to all positions for multiple games if not a lot of them were out hell they lost Sam Williams for the season out of the gate and we didn't have bland to start the season and then the whole list is too long for me to even remember everyone that got hurt and hurt multiple times or who was out four games or for the season the defense was so destroyed they were working with the practice squad in a lot of key areas for a long time but yet we saw them fighting hard and playing better in late the season,

that's why..
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https://cowboyszone.com/threads/final-team-defense-stats-cowboys-28th-in-total-d.531358/
it was trash
 
TINGS21 said:
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/final-team-defense-stats-cowboys-28th-in-total-d.531358/
it was trash
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and I'm telling you it wasn't trash I see with my own eyes why there was a good reason for when they weren't playing well most of it was due to injury some of it was due to the fact that Mike Zimmer wasn't given enough talent to go with his new defense and it took awhile for the new defense to adjust the coach to the defense and the players to the coach we seen a lot of improvement playing with backups so that makes me think if you have 15 to 17 games with most of your starters key starters superstars on the field it would look a lot better it's easy to see that...

Your opinion doesn't trump mine here it's just another opinion and I'm telling you I don't feel like they were trash I believe they were the most injured part of the team and had a valid excuse for not playing well and that they could be better under Mike Zimmer in year 2..

So you can provide links you can talk at me all you want you can reply as much as you want you're not changing my opinion...
 
KingCorcoran said:
I wonder if the other 31 teams in the NFL have noticed that? He’s held in high regard. He’ll have opportunities.
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i'm sure they have.
i hope he wants to stay.
before he came it seemed our secondary was immune to int's.
although byron jones did a helluva job in pass break-ups.
we didn't get alot of turnovers back there.
it changed with coach harris' arrival.
and the emphasis mccarthy's staff put on int's.
eventually,he'll get his shot at being a def.coord.
wouldn't bet against him.
helluva coach.
 
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