After watching Jax out-physical the Steelers

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aardvark said:
I... Maybe Big Ben was still feeling the effects of his 104 degree fever, ...

Ben's fever was 100.4, not the reported 104.
 

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Stautner said:
It's hard to say how things would hav panned out, but without the INT's we certainly should have had a very good chance to beat them.

Of course that kind of statement can be made of any game - if the losing team wouldn't have made mistakes they could have won. We have to be fair and admit that the INT's weren't just unforced errors that the Jags had nothing to do with - they made the plays and deserve the credit.

That said, we obviously can work on those kinds of things and hopefully minimize errors in the future. If we can do that we can be a pretty strong team.


I give them credit for making the plays on the INTs, to be sure. I give there offense a lot of credit because our defense could not stop them. However, when you say those errors were unforced, I agree 100%. They deserve credit but I do believe we could have beaten that team without the INTs.

Doesn't matter now. We lost and that's that.
 

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Future 585 said:
they were a pushover for the 1st quarter...then we get 2 bad calls and bam

First, if a bad call or even 2 caused us to lay over for the rest of the game then I can't quite get how you think we should have won ......

Second, which calls are you referring to? The Witten call was a good one - I'm not sure why some disagree. He didn't knock the guy on his butt or shove him noticeably out of the way, but that isn't a requirment for interference.

Third, even if they were bad calls, so what? Is that unique to the Cowboys? Bad calls, missed calls and borderline calls happen both ways in every game - many of which fans never see. That's not what determines most games.

The only certain fact is that Jacksonville played better than we did.
 

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I will say that we should have beaten the Jags - We should have put them away with the Bledsoe overthrow of TO but we did not. If we make that TD, BP plays it close to the vest and we have a 17-3 halftime lead and the momentum is all ours.

Now, we did not do that so I am not saying that we are better, just that we had the opportunity to put them away and should have - we did not.

Personnaly I think that the Cowboys have many more weapons to defend against than Pittsburg does. They have one WR who is a threat and have a good Oline and W Parker can break one at any time. Heath Miller is not near what Witten is and Rothlisberger is maybe a step above Bledsoe, but when the defensive coaches sat in the film study before Pittsburg I bet it was an easier gameplan than what they had against Dallas.
 

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aikemirv said:
I will say that we should have beaten the Jags - We should have put them away with the Bledsoe overthrow of TO but we did not. If we make that TD, BP plays it close to the vest and we have a 17-3 halftime lead and the momentum is all ours.

Now, we did not do that so I am not saying that we are better, just that we had the opportunity to put them away and should have - we did not.

Personnaly I think that the Cowboys have many more weapons to defend against than Pittsburg does. They have one WR who is a threat and have a good Oline and W Parker can break one at any time. Heath Miller is not near what Witten is and Rothlisberger is maybe a step above Bledsoe, but when the defensive coaches sat in the film study before Pittsburg I bet it was an easier gameplan than what they had against Dallas.

Why is that we "should" have put them away? Yes, we had the opportunity, but "should" and "could" are not the same thing. Are we different from any other team that jumps to a lead and fails to hold it. It's not as if Jacksonville wasn't on the field and didn't have anything to do with it.

Once again, we lost because we were outplayed, and fans need to come to grips with the fact that not making the plays we "could" have made doesn't mean we should have won - in fact, us not making those plays and them making some plays of their own is pretty much the definition of being outplayed ......
 

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Stautner said:
Why is that we "should" have put them away? Yes, we had the opportunity, but "should" and "could" are not the same thing. Are we different from any other team that jumps to a lead and fails to hold it. It's not as if Jacksonville wasn't on the field and didn't have anything to do with it.

Once again, we lost because we were outplayed, and fans need to come to grips with the fact that not making the plays we "could" have made doesn't mean we should have won - in fact, us not making those plays and them making some plays of their own is pretty much the definition of being outplayed ......


Owens was wide open on that play - Jax had nothing to do with that overthrow.

The overthrow of Owens is a throw Bledsoe should have made not one he could have made. I could have made that throw - Bledsoe should have made that throw - what was wrong with him I do not know.

Philly should have won the game with NYG - they blew it and did not put them away. I see nothing wrong with saying that.

Washington could have beaten Dallas Sunday night.

When a WR is wide open down the middle of the field that is a throw that any NFL QB should make
 

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Maybe outside the pocket, but in the pocket, I don't agree.

Well, I was trying to make that as non confrontational as possible because I did not want to make it a 10 page thread again about who was better - Bledsoe or Rothlisberger.

We have seen one of those here about that subject already!
 

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aikemirv said:
Well, I was trying to make that as non confrontational as possible because I did not want to make it a 10 page thread again about who was better - Bledsoe or Rothlisberger.

We have seen one of those here about that subject already!
My only point was, we saw Big Ben last night when he had to work from within the pocket and win the game with his arm.

Not his strength.
 

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aikemirv said:
Owens was wide open on that play - Jax had nothing to do with that overthrow.

The overthrow of Owens is a throw Bledsoe should have made not one he could have made. I could have made that throw - Bledsoe should have made that throw - what was wrong with him I do not know.
I agree.
 
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