Agent's Take: Forecasting WR market for Dez, Demaryius, Julio and A.J.

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Agent's Take: Forecasting WR market for Dez, Demaryius, Julio and A.J.
By Joel Corry | Former Sports Agent

May 19, 2015 4:00 pm ET

Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald -- both drafted No. 3 overall -- were similarly positioned for big paydays on their first veteran contracts. Both players signed new deals with two years left on their rookie contracts that gave their teams some much needed salary cap relief.

Fitzgerald, who was the third overall pick in the 2004 draft, used the circumstances to his advantage with the Arizona Cardinals while Johnson squandered his leverage with theHouston Texans. Johnson, the third overall pick in the 2003 draft, essentially represented himself in signing a lengthy, team-friendly contract extension in 2007 that he quickly outperformed. A year later, Fitzgerald opted for a shorter-term deal at the top of the wide receiver market with a structure that ensured he would sign another lucrative contract if he kept performing at a high level.

Johnson's unhappiness with his contract prompted the Texans to rework his deal in 2010. The incentive -laden deal made Johnson one of the NFL's highest-paid wide receivers until Fitzgerald reset the market the following year. Fitzgerald signed a seven-year, $113 million extension with $45 million in guarantees.

Fitzgerald's career earnings of $114.99 million are almost $20 million more than Johnson's $95.11 million despite Fitzgerald entering the NFL a later. This is because of Fitzgerald has consistently had the better approach to contract negotiations.

Dez Bryant, A.J. Green, Julio Jones and Demaryius Thomas have become elite wide receivers and in the prime of their careers. Green and Jones are in contract years. Bryant and Thomas's rookie deals expired and were given franchise tags. How negotiations are handled will largely determine whether each player is more like Johnson or Fitzgerald financially.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...ting-wr-market-for-dez-demaryius-julio-and-aj

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I think now that Dez's representatives are no longer actively undermining him, his prospects for getting a lucrative deal improve significantly.
 

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If he doesn't see the difference between giving Hardy a no franchise tag clause and giving Dez one he's an idiot. Hardy wasn't a member of the team so they didn't have as much leverage. Dez either plays this year for the Cowboys or he doesn't play. For an "Agent" perspective thats a pretty dumb statement.
 

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If he doesn't see the difference between giving Hardy a no franchise tag clause and giving Dez one he's an idiot. Hardy wasn't a member of the team so they didn't have as much leverage. Dez either plays this year for the Cowboys or he doesn't play. For an "Agent" perspective thats a pretty dumb statement.

The same thing with La'el Collins contract with no offsets. It's a bare bones minimum contract with a free agent. Both contracts are extremely unique situations.

Even the first contract he mentions with Wallace. I get that an agent would want to use that as a starting point but he should have at least admitted that the teams could argue that the Dolphins bailed out of the contract after two years, eating the SB. The Dolphins were fortunate that they found someone that would take on the contract but it was only because it was more attractive to the vikings since that bonus was already paid. Frankly the vikings have a totally different contract than the one that he's using since it does not have the SB involved. Vikings got him for 3 years 32.9 Million (AVG 10.966 Million) Vikes can also release him in 2016 or 2017 since there are no more guarantees at that point.
 
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The same thing with La'el Collins contract with no offsets. It's a bare bones minimum contract with a free agent. Both contracts are extremely unique situations.

Even the first contract he mentions with Wallace. I get that an agent would want to use that as a starting point but he should have at least admitted that the teams could argue that the Dolphins bailed out of the contract after two years, eating the SB. The Dolphins were fortunate that they found someone that would take on the contract but it was only because it was more attractive to the vikings since that bonus was already paid. Frankly the vikings have a totally different contract than the one that he's using since it does not have the SB involved. Vikings got him for 3 years 32.9 Million (AVG 10.966 Million) Vikes can also release him in 2016 or 2017 since there are no more guarantees at that point.

This guy was way off base on nearly the entire Dez section. Fitzgerald, C. Johnson and A. Johnson all got those mega deals because of the old rookie draft pick contracts. Everyone said Miami overpaid for Wallace as soon as it was signed. The reality is the big 4 that are looking for new deals should be looking for something between what Wallace and Maclin got and what CJ got. 13-14m per yr with 35-40m guaranteed is probably where it ends up if I was to guess. They aren't getting a CJ deal and if thats what it takes to keep any of them I would let them go.
 

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someone on talkin cowboys was fairly confident that AJ Green and Julio Jones would actually be first to set market then Dez and Demaryius Thomas would follow. Personally, I would prefer that because I don't think those contract are going to be as big as Dez and Thomas agents think. It would take the heat off cowboys and they can just point to those contracts in negotiations and avoid looking like bad guys. Either way Dez will come out of it a rich guy.
 

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The whole WR market was reset

Fitz had to take a pay cut
AJohnson was released
MWallace was traded for salary relief
PHarvin was let go
Cobb, Maclin and TSmith signed average deals

Dez and DThomas only got Franchise deals
JJones and AJGreen had their 5th year options picked up

But no one is rushing to give these guys crazy money. A ton of young WRs have entered the League the last 3 years and more are coming. Smart athletes are moving to towards WR in college.

If the 10/114m offer with 20m guaranteed was real, that is low on the guarantee but it shows were DAL wants to be. If he wants to be a Cowboy for life he needs to leave a lot of money on the table, but could get 10m a year forever
 
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