Alabama in trouble...

[Jack-Reacher]

No Texas in the top 25. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Loserhorns!

Welcome to last week

 

[Cythim]

I disagree, There should not be a one loss team in the top 10. I would not have a problem with Bama climbing back in to the top 10, and I won't argue with their schedule being brutal in the SEC, but their are a lot of quality teams behind them. Bama should be sitting no higher than 11. Both LSU and Utah or Michigan State should be ahead S. Carolina and Bama right now.

LSU almost lost to Tennessee and Florida, Utah has played absolutely no one and Michigan State has "big" wins against mighty Michigan and Notre Dame. Losing one game to their fourth ranked opponent on the season should not knock Bama out of the top 10.

 

[Jack-Reacher]

LSU almost lost to Tennessee and Florida, Utah has played absolutely no one and Michigan State has "big" wins against mighty Michigan and Notre Dame. Losing one game to their fourth ranked opponent on the season should not knock Bama out of the top 10.

If almost was the criteria, then Bama should have dropped out of first when then played Arkansas. You can make the case against Utah, but Michigan State beat a ranked Michigan team. I think Bama belongs in the top echelon of college football, but you don't lose to a team ranked 18 spots below you and only drop 7 spots. Let them earn their way back into that top 10.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Nick Saban deserves it. Here's to you Nick! :beer2:

 

[big dog cowboy]

No Texas in the top 25. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Loserhorns!

Welcome to last week

:laugh2:

 

[Cythim]

If almost was the criteria, then Bama should have dropped out of first when then played Arkansas. You can make the case against Utah, but Michigan State beat a ranked Michigan team. I think Bama belongs in the top echelon of college football, but you don't lose to a team ranked 18 spots below you and only drop 7 spots. Let them earn their way back into that top 10.

Huge difference in almost losing to a bad team and almost losing to a top15 team. As for Michigan St, they beat a Michigan team that didn't deserve to be ranked. Both teams will lose at least 2 more games.

 

[Jack-Reacher]

Michigan shouldn't have been ranked based on what? I'll let them know that they will lose two more, they don't need to play out the rest of their season...lol

 

[rkell87]

No Texas in the top 25. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Loserhorns!

at least they are in the top 25 enough for you to laugh when they arent...unlike the team you root for

 

[Cythim]

Michigan shouldn't have been ranked based on what? I'll let them know that they will lose two more, they don't need to play out the rest of their season...lol

Based on their resume. What did they do in the first place to get into the top 25? They had zero points in the preseason AP Poll, indicative of them sucking last year and doing nothing in the offseason to warrant even one voter to put them in the top 25. After a week 1 win against UConn (who is 3-3 with losses to Rutgers and Temple and wins against below average teams) they vault to 26th and 71 points. A week 2 win against Notre Dame (who is 3-3 with losses to Michigan State and Stanford and wins against average teams) and they vault again to 20th and 437 points. Their unimpressive win against UMass hurt them a touch but they kept marching up simply because other teams were losing.

They did nothing to prove they were worth a top 25 ranking. It was handed to them because they beat UConn and Notre Dame, who were both overhyped in the preseason.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

at least they are in the top 25 enough for you to laugh when they arent...unlike the team you root for

Hook' ERS!

 

[Jack-Reacher]

Based on their resume. What did they do in the first place to get into the top 25? They had zero points in the preseason AP Poll, indicative of them sucking last year and doing nothing in the offseason to warrant even one voter to put them in the top 25. After a week 1 win against UConn (who is 3-3 with losses to Rutgers and Temple and wins against below average teams) they vault to 26th and 71 points. A week 2 win against Notre Dame (who is 3-3 with losses to Michigan State and Stanford and wins against average teams) and they vault again to 20th and 437 points. Their unimpressive win against UMass hurt them a touch but they kept marching up simply because other teams were losing.

They did nothing to prove they were worth a top 25 ranking. It was handed to them because they beat UConn and Notre Dame, who were both overhyped in the preseason.

Fair enough...

But that takes me to to the crux of the problem. The top 25 is subjective to bias and opinion. Why is tOHU #1? Who have they played? Miami? Please, they have been exposed as a mid tier team. They struggled against Illinois yet they are the best team in the country? They are number one because the Big 10 is a better conference? Based on what? Each of these supposed strong conferences are not what they use to be, you have 2 or 3 very good teams in them and then you have a noticeable drop in strength yet the voters still favor the AQ conferences like they are playing at a different level.

You dismiss BSU for their schedule, yet the schedule they have played thus far is considerably harder than either Oregon's or Ohio State's but they do not belong with the top teams. I heard interviews from a AP voter and from a Harris voter who both said they vote from the box scores. How can you as a voter cast your ballot from a box score? I couldn't vote for any team in the Big 12 from the box score alone. It pisses me off when these guys take this stuff so lightly. Gus Ferrote, who is a Harris Voter, and was interviewed today by our local talk radio show, made reference to our lack of strength of schedule. When he asked how he could vote both Oregon and Ohio ahead of Boise when Boise had a harder schedule then either one of them thus far, his answer was, well ummm I don't know. At least be honest and say, well they are in the WAC and everyone knows the WAC sucks.

I realize, that schedule strength right now makes no difference and that BSU's schedule strength will drop as they play more conference games. However, if you are casting your vote based on what is going to happen, what is the difference between that and putting Michigan in the top 25? Each year teams make the Top25 based on who they are instead of how they play. BYU is another of example of a team that stayed ranked for too long this year.

I don't know what the answer is, but I do know that it is time automatically assuming that teams from the AQ conferences are going to just be better.

 

[Cythim]

If I were to rank teams I would do it along a power ranking system based on how good I thought each team was, schedule and record be dammed. The problem is Boise State is impossible to guage. I know they are a good team but are they a great team?

If they had to play four Top 25 opponents in a row would they be able to win all four games?
If they had a huge rivalry against another great team would they be able to win it on the road?
How would they perform in a conference championship game against another Top 10 team?

 

[Concord]

That's OSU. And get over it.

Exactly.

THE Ohio State University.

 

[Avaj]

Hook' ERS!

Not nice

 

[Jack-Reacher]

If I were to rank teams I would do it along a power ranking system based on how good I thought each team was, schedule and record be dammed. The problem is Boise State is impossible to guage. I know they are a good team but are they a great team?

If they had to play four Top 25 opponents in a row would they be able to win all four games?
If they had a huge rivalry against another great team would they be able to win it on the road?
How would they perform in a conference championship game against another Top 10 team?

Valid questions.

Show me any team that plays 4 top 25 teams in a row outside of San Jose State. Even they didn't have them in a row.

Your other two questions are legitimate and the answer lies in watching the team play. I would submit that you haven't watched BSU outside of one or two games. There are not very many teams that are better prepared than BSU. This argument that BSU wins only because they have a long time to prepare is ridiculous. Coach Peterson is one of the elite coaches in college football. His teams are ready to play every week. The stats they put up they do in one half of play. That is pretty sick when you think about it. 500 yrds of offense in one half, against a crappy team no doubt, but that is a well prepared offense.

BSU could compete in any conference in the nation. I didn't say win, but they would be competitive.

 

[Cythim]

Valid questions.

Show me any team that plays 4 top 25 teams in a row outside of San Jose State. Even they didn't have them in a row.

Your other two questions are legitimate and the answer lies in watching the team play. I would submit that you haven't watched BSU outside of one or two games. There are not very many teams that are better prepared than BSU. This argument that BSU wins only because they have a long time to prepare is ridiculous. Coach Peterson is one of the elite coaches in college football. His teams are ready to play every week. The stats they put up they do in one half of play. That is pretty sick when you think about it. 500 yrds of offense in one half, against a crappy team no doubt, but that is a well prepared offense.

BSU could compete in any conference in the nation. I didn't say win, but they would be competitive.

I've actually seen more Boise State games than most of the other top 10 teams (save for the Ducks because I live in Portland). I've watched parts of Ohio State and Alabama games but there is too much happening on Saturday to be able to catch it all. All I saw from Boise State is that they struggle to beat average teams from the AQ conferences.

The BCS should've done us all the favor of matching Boise State against Florida last year instead of TCU. Having them play against what was probably the second best team in the nation last year would've gone a long way in telling us how good Boise State really is.

 

[Jack-Reacher]

I've actually seen more Boise State games than most of the other top 10 teams (save for the Ducks because I live in Portland). I've watched parts of Ohio State and Alabama games but there is too much happening on Saturday to be able to catch it all. All I saw from Boise State is that they struggle to beat average teams from the AQ conferences.

The BCS should've done us all the favor of matching Boise State against Florida last year instead of TCU. Having them play against what was probably the second best team in the nation last year would've gone a long way in telling us how good Boise State really is.

I agree, I was disappointed when they put both at large teams against each other. Had Florida blown BSU out, then all this talk about BSU would not be happening.