ALL-22 question from Seattle game

31smackdown

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Can someone who has access to the all-22 take a look at the Seattle game and say if it was clear that Lucky was moving forward before the snap and when the flag was thrown in relation to the foul. Also can someone look at the last Dallas drive, I think the 2nd or 3rd down play and tell me how Beasely ended up on the ground 15-20 yards downfield?

We are on to Philly, but just didn't see too much discussion around those two things that had potential impact on the game.
 

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Can someone who has access to the all-22 take a look at the Seattle game and say if it was clear that Lucky was moving forward before the snap and when the flag was thrown in relation to the foul. Also can someone look at the last Dallas drive, I think the 2nd or 3rd down play and tell me how Beasely ended up on the ground 15-20 yards downfield?

We are on to Philly, but just didn't see too much discussion around those two things that had potential impact on the game.

I was curious about the penalty on Lucky, myself. The replays they used were inconclusive for the TV viewer. My guess is that he turned upfield a split second early. If so, then it's a legit penalty, but it sure is strange that they can catch something that close and then turn around and mess up the easy stuff.
 

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The Lucky play was a legit penalty. If you watched what he did specifically live, it was clear something was wrong on the play. The fault there lies on Cassel though. He called for the ball a split second late and caused the flag.
 

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I noticed it live. It was close and they've let it slide at times, but definitely a fair penalty. I really had no excitement while McFadden was ripping off the big run....expecting to see a flag.
 

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Thanks.. anyone know about Beasely being on the ground.. he is at the edge of the frame on the replays, but you can see him on the ground like he is looking at the ref maybe, just curious if he got knocked down intentionally
 

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Thanks.. anyone know about Beasely being on the ground.. he is at the edge of the frame on the replays, but you can see him on the ground like he is looking at the ref maybe, just curious if he got knocked down intentionally
He was pushed down by Wagner. It looked like Cassel had already started to throw the ball to DMC, so it didn't appear to be a terrible example of illegal contact. But, I haven seen that called before as illegal contact.
 

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I said that's a penalty before I ever saw the yellow watching the game live. Dad did too. It was pretty clear.
 

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Can someone who has access to the all-22 take a look at the Seattle game and say if it was clear that Lucky was moving forward before the snap and when the flag was thrown in relation to the foul. Also can someone look at the last Dallas drive, I think the 2nd or 3rd down play and tell me how Beasely ended up on the ground 15-20 yards downfield?

We are on to Philly, but just didn't see too much discussion around those two things that had potential impact on the game.

I've watched the Lucky penalty play several times. The timing of him moving forward and the snap were very close. You can see that he is leaning that direction before the snap but his foot that first touched the ground in that direction hit down right at the snap. I can see in real time how it probably looked like he was early because the QB had not moved from under Center yet but it was a ticky-tack call, IMO.

With 56 seconds remaining, on 2nd and 10, Beasley runs a deep in. Just as he is going behind the LB, that LB bumps him and Beasley sort of spun around and went down. It appeared that Beasley might have been where Cassel was planning to throw but Free was losing his block and pressure was getting to Cassel.
 

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Can someone who has access to the all-22 take a look at the Seattle game and say if it was clear that Lucky was moving forward before the snap and when the flag was thrown in relation to the foul. Also can someone look at the last Dallas drive, I think the 2nd or 3rd down play and tell me how Beasely ended up on the ground 15-20 yards downfield?

We are on to Philly, but just didn't see too much discussion around those two things that had potential impact on the game.

I was at the game. It was really obvious that Lucky was moving forward on that play. I knew what the flag was as soon as I saw it.
 

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I've watched the Lucky penalty play several times. The timing of him moving forward and the snap were very close. You can see that he is leaning that direction before the snap but his foot that first touched the ground in that direction hit down right at the snap. I can see in real time how it probably looked like he was early because the QB had not moved from under Center yet but it was a ticky-tack call, IMO.

With 56 seconds remaining, on 2nd and 10, Beasley runs a deep in. Just as he is going behind the LB, that LB bumps him and Beasley sort of spun around and went down. It appeared that Beasley might have been where Cassel was planning to throw but Free was losing his block and pressure was getting to Cassel.

Leaning forward is all it takes.
 

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I was at the game. It was really obvious that Lucky was moving forward on that play. I knew what the flag was as soon as I saw it.

It would be almost impossible to see him and watch when Fred snaps the ball from the stands.
 
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