All Cowboys contact with prospects for 2025 Draft

[CalPolyTechnique]

News flash every player drafted comes with a degree of risk...

In related news, some prospects are more riskier than others…

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Ridley was a better college player and was drafted in the 20s. Ridley was fast enough.

He ran a 4.50 if I remember correctly.

 

[baltcowboy]

He ran a 4.50 if I remember correctly.

I never seen a receiver that slow always get behind corners like he did in college and the pros. His route running was phenomenal.

 

[morasp]

Golden's comp is Chris Olave so I compared their draft profiles.

Golden Draft Grade 6.42
Olave Draft Grade 6.43

Measurables
Golden
Height Weight 5'11" 191#
Arm Hand 30 5/8" 9.5"
Olave
Height Weight 6'0" 187#
Arm Hand 31 1/8" 9.5"

Testing
40 yard dash
Golden 4.29
Olave 4.39

Film
short/intermediate/deep routes
Golden works all three levels of the field with similar consistency and productivity
Olave He's fast but efficient and plays with the bend and foot agility to uncover on all three levels

Golden Adequate linear speed to work past corners on vertical routes.
Olave Top-end speed creates vertical opportunities.

Golden Shows ability to sink, slow and open quickly from hard vertical push.
Olave Able to sit and settle quickly for hitch/curl.

Position flex
Golden has the ability to play all three receiver spots.
Olave He is an inside/outside hybrid appealing to offenses looking for a field-stretcher with the ability to take on a sizable catch load

Receiving
Golden Displays body control and focus for highlight reel adjustments and grabs.
He also has the agility and body control to turn near-misses into highlight catches.
Olave Effortless in the air and can create a highlight.

Golden Twitchy pluck-and-tuck protects the catch through contact.
Olave Ball skills feature plus focus and well-timed, sudden hands.

Contested catches
Golden he’s a willing participant in traffic and took command of contested catches with better physicality and catch strength in 2024.
Olave possesses natural, well-rounded ball skills but needs to add play strength to ward off the physical challenges that are headed his way.

Rookie Season
Olave 72 receptions 1042 yards
Golden ?

 

[reddyuta]

Golden's comp is Chris Olave so I compared their draft profiles.

Golden Draft Grade 6.42
Olave Draft Grade 6.43

Measurables
Golden
Height Weight 5'11" 191#
Arm Hand 30 5/8" 9.5"
Olave
Height Weight 6'0" 187#
Arm Hand 31 1/8" 9.5"

Testing
40 yard dash
Golden 4.29
Olave 4.39

Film
short/intermediate/deep routes
Golden works all three levels of the field with similar consistency and productivity
Olave He's fast but efficient and plays with the bend and foot agility to uncover on all three levels

Golden Adequate linear speed to work past corners on vertical routes.
Olave Top-end speed creates vertical opportunities.

Golden Shows ability to sink, slow and open quickly from hard vertical push.
Olave Able to sit and settle quickly for hitch/curl.

Position flex
Golden has the ability to play all three receiver spots.
Olave He is an inside/outside hybrid appealing to offenses looking for a field-stretcher with the ability to take on a sizable catch load

Receiving
Golden Displays body control and focus for highlight reel adjustments and grabs.
He also has the agility and body control to turn near-misses into highlight catches.
Olave Effortless in the air and can create a highlight.

Golden Twitchy pluck-and-tuck protects the catch through contact.
Olave Ball skills feature plus focus and well-timed, sudden hands.

Contested catches
Golden he’s a willing participant in traffic and took command of contested catches with better physicality and catch strength in 2024.
Olave possesses natural, well-rounded ball skills but needs to add play strength to ward off the physical challenges that are headed his way.

Rookie Season
Olave 72 receptions 1042 yards
Golden ?

i think Olave is better than Golden too,he was in the Tyler Smith draft class and the many WRs were picked in the first Rd but none have really been an all pro.

 

[morasp]

i think Olave is better than Golden too,he was in the Tyler Smith draft class and the many WRs were picked in the first Rd but none have really been an all pro.

I'll withhold judgement until next offseason. If Golden gets 800 yards in his rookie season it would be better than anything we have after Lamb and around what Devonta Smith had for the Eagles. Last season Thomas Jr. and McConkey had better seasons than Harrison Jr. and Odunze who were ranked much higher so yo never know. Was watching Cosell talk about the WRs and last year he thought Thomas would translate well to the NFL and said he gets the same feeling about Golden.

 

[Cowboyny]

Golden's comp is Chris Olave so I compared their draft profiles.

Golden Draft Grade 6.42
Olave Draft Grade 6.43

Measurables
Golden
Height Weight 5'11" 191#
Arm Hand 30 5/8" 9.5"
Olave
Height Weight 6'0" 187#
Arm Hand 31 1/8" 9.5"

Testing
40 yard dash
Golden 4.29
Olave 4.39

Film
short/intermediate/deep routes
Golden works all three levels of the field with similar consistency and productivity
Olave He's fast but efficient and plays with the bend and foot agility to uncover on all three levels

Golden Adequate linear speed to work past corners on vertical routes.
Olave Top-end speed creates vertical opportunities.

Golden Shows ability to sink, slow and open quickly from hard vertical push.
Olave Able to sit and settle quickly for hitch/curl.

Position flex
Golden has the ability to play all three receiver spots.
Olave He is an inside/outside hybrid appealing to offenses looking for a field-stretcher with the ability to take on a sizable catch load

Receiving
Golden Displays body control and focus for highlight reel adjustments and grabs.
He also has the agility and body control to turn near-misses into highlight catches.
Olave Effortless in the air and can create a highlight.

Golden Twitchy pluck-and-tuck protects the catch through contact.
Olave Ball skills feature plus focus and well-timed, sudden hands.

Contested catches
Golden he’s a willing participant in traffic and took command of contested catches with better physicality and catch strength in 2024.
Olave possesses natural, well-rounded ball skills but needs to add play strength to ward off the physical challenges that are headed his way.

Rookie Season
Olave 72 receptions 1042 yards
Golden ?

Golden reminds me more of Garrett Wilson from the Jets.

 

[reddyuta]

I'll withhold judgement until next offseason. If Golden gets 800 yards in his rookie season it would be better than anything we have after Lamb and around what Devonta Smith had for the Eagles. Last season Thomas Jr. and McConkey had better seasons than Harrison Jr. and Odunze who were ranked much higher so yo never know. Was watching Cosell talk about the WRs and last year he thought Thomas would translate well to the NFL and said he gets the same feeling about Golden.

i like Golden and agree that he will be solid in the NFL,one of the better no 2s in the league,my only concern is drafting a no 2 WR at 12.

 

[morasp]

Golden reminds me more of Garrett Wilson from the Jets.

I could see that. I was going off of Lance's comp.

 

[morasp]

i like Golden and agree that he will be solid in the NFL,one of the better no 2s in the league,my only concern is drafting a no 2 WR at 12.

I hate it. Especially when you consider the value we got with Lamb. Golden is ranked in that second tier that that has a lot of good but not great players. Brugler was saying that a lot of teams would love to trade down because of that. If one of the offensive lineman is there at 12 or even a QB maybe we could find a trade partner and move down to add some draft capital.

 

[baltcowboy]

Golden reminds me more of Garrett Wilson from the Jets.

Really. I would accept that. I think with all 4 receiver prospects coming in for a visit, the Cowboys are trying to trade down. They would then pick the one that is left from their stack.

 

[Cowboyny]

Really. I would accept that. I think with all 4 receiver prospects coming in for a visit, the Cowboys are trying to trade down. They would then pick the one that is left from their stack.

I like T-Mac the most, but would be fine with any of the 4 and an extra pick.

 

[Mr_437]

Golden's comp is Chris Olave so I compared their draft profiles.

Golden Draft Grade 6.42
Olave Draft Grade 6.43

Measurables
Golden
Height Weight 5'11" 191#
Arm Hand 30 5/8" 9.5"
Olave
Height Weight 6'0" 187#
Arm Hand 31 1/8" 9.5"

Testing
40 yard dash
Golden 4.29
Olave 4.39

Film
short/intermediate/deep routes
Golden works all three levels of the field with similar consistency and productivity
Olave He's fast but efficient and plays with the bend and foot agility to uncover on all three levels

Golden Adequate linear speed to work past corners on vertical routes.
Olave Top-end speed creates vertical opportunities.

Golden Shows ability to sink, slow and open quickly from hard vertical push.
Olave Able to sit and settle quickly for hitch/curl.

Position flex
Golden has the ability to play all three receiver spots.
Olave He is an inside/outside hybrid appealing to offenses looking for a field-stretcher with the ability to take on a sizable catch load

Receiving
Golden Displays body control and focus for highlight reel adjustments and grabs.
He also has the agility and body control to turn near-misses into highlight catches.
Olave Effortless in the air and can create a highlight.

Golden Twitchy pluck-and-tuck protects the catch through contact.
Olave Ball skills feature plus focus and well-timed, sudden hands.

Contested catches
Golden he’s a willing participant in traffic and took command of contested catches with better physicality and catch strength in 2024.
Olave possesses natural, well-rounded ball skills but needs to add play strength to ward off the physical challenges that are headed his way.

Rookie Season
Olave 72 receptions 1042 yards
Golden ?

I tend to look at the Ladd McConkey comp, even though I haven't seen it. Ladd made an impact in the playoffs as he took over as WR1 for the Chargers.
Rookie stats: 82 rec, 1,149 yds, 7 TDs.
McConkey combine: 6'0 187, 4.39 (1.52 10), 36 vertical, 13 BP.
Ladd 's route running got him open at a high level, shredding NCBs.
* McConkey's best year college stats was 58 rec, 762 yds, 7 TDs. LM ascended into a better pro.

Golden combine: 5'11 191, 4.29 (1.49 10)
Golden playing opposite CeeDee gives him 1v1 coverage, so like Ladd the route running could lead to a impactful rookie season
* Golden's best stats year 58 rec, 987 yds, 9 TDs

 

[Stash]

I tend to look at the Ladd McConkey comp, even though I haven't seen it. Ladd made an impact in the playoffs as he took over as WR1 for the Chargers.
Rookie stats: 82 rec, 1,149 yds, 7 TDs.
McConkey combine: 6'0 187, 4.39 (1.52 10), 36 vertical, 13 BP.
Ladd 's route running got him open at a high level, shredding NCBs.
* McConkey's best year college stats was 58 rec, 762 yds, 7 TDs. LM ascended into a better pro.

Golden combine: 5'11 191, 4.29 (1.49 10)
Golden playing opposite CeeDee gives him 1v1 coverage, so like Ladd the route running could lead to a impactful rookie season
* Golden's best stats year 58 rec, 987 yds, 9 TDs

I agree.

I think the upside with Golden is huge.

I also think that the Cowboys will show great faith in their new receivers coach in maximizing that potential.

 

[morasp]

I tend to look at the Ladd McConkey comp, even though I haven't seen it. Ladd made an impact in the playoffs as he took over as WR1 for the Chargers.
Rookie stats: 82 rec, 1,149 yds, 7 TDs.
McConkey combine: 6'0 187, 4.39 (1.52 10), 36 vertical, 13 BP.
Ladd 's route running got him open at a high level, shredding NCBs.
* McConkey's best year college stats was 58 rec, 762 yds, 7 TDs. LM ascended into a better pro.

Golden combine: 5'11 191, 4.29 (1.49 10)
Golden playing opposite CeeDee gives him 1v1 coverage, so like Ladd the route running could lead to a impactful rookie season
* Golden's best stats year 58 rec, 987 yds, 9 TDs

That's interesting, the stats, draft grade 6.40 for Ladd, and measurables look similar, I'll have to look up McConkey's skill set. Whoever the best comp is I would be thrilled with Olave's, Wilson's, or McConkeys rookie production.

 

[Mr_437]

That's interesting, the stats, draft grade 6.40 for Ladd, and measurables look similar, I'll have to look up McConkey's skill set. Whoever the best comp is I would be thrilled with Olave's, Wilson's, or McConkeys rookie production.

Just wanted to add to the comps you laid out to show a certain archetype Golden fits in and that archetype does really well immediately in the NFL.

 

[morasp]

Just wanted to add to the comps you laid out to show a certain archetype Golden fits in and that archetype does really well immediately in the NFL.

Good Point, sometimes I get a little carried away with the draft profiles.

 

[baltcowboy]

I like T-Mac the most, but would be fine with any of the 4 and an extra pick.

I really can’t decide what they are going to do. The smoke is on a receiver but you could argue they need a cornerback and running back more. I will believe the Pauline report you posted last month.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I never seen a receiver that slow always get behind corners like he did in college and the pros. His route running was phenomenal.

I remember @WillieBeamen posted how similar Ridley and Lambs measurables were back in 2020. Some guys just put up soso track numbers, but fly with the pads on.

Iirc one if the bigger knocks on Ridley was his age. 24 or 25 I believe. If he was 21/22 I think he may have went top 15, even 10

 

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

Golden reminds me of healthy mix between John Ross and Jalen Reagor .