All Freaks & Beasts Mock

[BAT]

Only FREAKS and BEASTS wanted!

Sign:
OG Brian Waters: Former TE will improve OL & add pro bowl caliber expectation

Trade:
Cowboys send Anthony Spencer and Miles Austin to Jet's for DE Quinton Coples and 2013 2nd & 3rd round picks - trade fixes 2 of Jet's biggest holes: pass rushing OLB and #1 WR and allows them to address OL or QB with their first pick

1st l NT Star Lotulelei l Utah l 6'3 320 5.35
Once considered a top 3 pick, medical concerns dropped this beast out of top 10; Lotulelei's combination of explosion and power has this mastodon of a NT constantly in the opponent's backfield even when double or triple blocked; not just a big bodied run stopper - Lotulelei finished 2012 with 42 stops, 11 TFL, 5 sacks, 3 FF & 4 FR. Cowboys can plug and play him immediately at the O technique, improving both the run and pass rush from day one. A Garrett RKG and Kiffin has first hand experience watching this man monster play.

2nd l OT/OG/TE Terron Armstead l Arkansas-Pine Bluff l 6'5 310 4.65
3 time All-SWAC, excelled at Shrine Game & completely blew up the combine; Former TE turned OL has had private workouts with the Cowboys

2nd l 2nd l FS/CB David Amerson l North Carolina State l 6'2 205 4.35
13 INTs in 2011 and 5 INTs in 2012; All world when playing in a zone & man off scheme; explosive, physical & great size in run game; Ball hawk extraordinaire; 39" vertical, 11' broad and 4.35 40 at pro day

3rd l SLB Jamie Collins l Southern Miss l 6'4 250 4.59
Former DB turned OLB; explosive athleticism to go with his production; 11-7 broad and 42" vert at combine; 10 sacks, 20 TFL, 4 FF, 92 tKL in 2012

3rd l KR/CB/FS Tyrann Mathieu l LSU l 5'9 195 4.46
Most dynamic player in 2011 before derailed by off field incidents; no real position on D (slot corner, FS, range corner) but pure playmaker wherever he lines up; pick six threat at all times; physical, forces fumbles & is extremely instinctive & fluid on the field; Cowboys connection: Les Miles & Deion Sanders

4th l RB/KR/Slot Kenjon Barner l Oregon l 5'9 200 4.39
Homerun hitter every time touches ball (rushing, receiving, returning); 1,600 plus yards rushing and 22 TDs; Exhilarating with ball in his hands

5th l WR Josh Boyce l TCU l 5'11 210 4.34
Natural playmaker who should be drafted higher if not for hamstring injury; ended record career with most TDs (22), 2nd in yards and 3rd in receptions

6th l DE Mike Catapano l Princeton l 6'4 275 4.74
2 time Captain, 2012 All Ivy & DPOY; 12 sacks and 15.5 TFL; Combines power (33 bench press) and speed; RKG and Princeton connection to Garrett

Priority UDFA:

C Dalton Freeman
OL Rogers Gaines
RB/FB/H Back Latavius Murray
TE Demetrius Harris
DL/OL Lawrence Okoye
OL Nick Becton

 

[xwalker]

Only FREAKS and BEASTS wanted!

Sign:
OG Brian Waters: Former TE will improve OL & add pro bowl caliber expectation

Trade:
Cowboys send Anthony Spencer and Miles Austin to Jet's for DE Quinton Coples and 2013 2nd & 3rd round picks - trade fixes 2 of Jet's biggest holes: pass rushing OLB and #1 WR and allows them to address OL or QB with their first pick

1st l NT Star Lotulelei l Utah l 6'3 320 5.35
Once considered a top 3 pick, medical concerns dropped this beast out of top 10; Lotulelei's combination of explosion and power has this mastodon of a NT constantly in the opponent's backfield even when double or triple blocked; not just a big bodied run stopper - Lotulelei finished 2012 with 42 stops, 11 TFL, 5 sacks, 3 FF & 4 FR. Cowboys can plug and play him immediately at the O technique, improving both the run and pass rush from day one. A Garrett RKG and Kiffin has first hand experience watching this man monster play.

2nd l OT/OG/TE Terron Armstead l Arkansas-Pine Bluff l 6'5 310 4.65
3 time All-SWAC, excelled at Shrine Game & completely blew up the combine; Former TE turned OL has had private workouts with the Cowboys

2nd l 2nd l FS/CB David Amerson l North Carolina State l 6'2 205 4.35
13 INTs in 2011 and 5 INTs in 2012; All world when playing in a zone & man off scheme; explosive, physical & great size in run game; Ball hawk extraordinaire; 39" vertical, 11' broad and 4.35 40 at pro day

3rd l SLB Jamie Collins l Southern Miss l 6'4 250 4.59
Former DB turned OLB; explosive athleticism to go with his production; 11-7 broad and 42" vert at combine; 10 sacks, 20 TFL, 4 FF, 92 tKL in 2012

3rd l KR/CB/FS Tyrann Mathieu l LSU l 5'9 195 4.46
Most dynamic player in 2011 before derailed by off field incidents; no real position on D (slot corner, FS, range corner) but pure playmaker wherever he lines up; pick six threat at all times; physical, forces fumbles & is extremely instinctive & fluid on the field; Cowboys connection: Les Miles & Deion Sanders

4th l RB/KR/Slot Kenjon Barner l Oregon l 5'9 200 4.39
Homerun hitter every time touches ball (rushing, receiving, returning); 1,600 plus yards rushing and 22 TDs; Exhilarating with ball in his hands

5th l WR Josh Boyce l TCU l 5'11 210 4.34
Natural playmaker who should be drafted higher if not for hamstring injury; ended record career with most TDs (22), 2nd in yards and 3rd in receptions

6th l DE Mike Catapano l Princeton l 6'4 275 4.74
2 time Captain, 2012 All Ivy & DPOY; 12 sacks and 15.5 TFL; Combines power (33 bench press) and speed; RKG and Princeton connection to Garrett

Priority UDFA:

C Dalton Freeman
OL Rogers Gaines
RB/FB/H Back Latavius Murray
TE Demetrius Harris
DL/OL Lawrence Okoye
OL Nick Becton

I don't think Brian Water even wants to play. Yes, he said that he would only play for a Texas team, but that was last year. How many guys sit out and entire year because they don't want to play for New England?

That trade would basically be Austin and Spencer for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Unfortunately Mike Lynn and Al Davis are no longer in the NFL to facilitate that trade.

Lotulelei's issue was that dehydration caused the test to be inaccurate. He does not have medical issues and therefore will not be available at #18.

Are they going to fire Garrett before the draft? That is the only possibility I can see of them drafting Tyrann Mathieu.

 

[tm1119]

There's a lot wrong with this....

 

[BAT]

I don't think Brian Water even wants to play. Yes, he said that he would only play for a Texas team, but that was last year. How many guys sit out and entire year because they don't want to play for New England?

How many guys? What does that prove. Waters did it last season. Don't pretend you know what he wants or will do. Maybe you could throw up a spread sheet to convince us what Waters thinks

That trade would basically be Austin and Spencer for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Unfortunately Mike Lynn and Al Davis are no longer in the NFL to facilitate that trade.

Lotulelei's issue was that dehydration caused the test to be inaccurate. He does not have medical issues and therefore will not be available at #18.

Actually it should have been more than that - I meant to show a trade of first rounders in 2013. So Cowboys would switch firsts, so Cowboys can nab Lotulelei with the 9th pick. And not all picks are created equal. Football Focus had Spencer rated as the #1 3-4 OLB in 2012 and Miles Austin is a legit pro bowler when healthy. Both are playmakers and positions that the Jets are desperate to fill. Coples may have upside but is not proven like Spencer and Miles.

Are they going to fire Garrett before the draft? That is the only possibility I can see of them drafting Tyrann Mathieu.

I am glad you are not a weatherman or a profiler, you are much better off playing with excel. Mathieu is not a first day pick, let alone a first rounder. I think even your spreadsheets will show you that the Honey Badger is a playmaker. His production was Deionesque, except Mathieu will smack you in the mouth. If available in the 3rd, he would be worth the risk. Jerry still signs off on the picks and he loves to stamp his mark on everything, especially in the drafts.

After all, the Cowboys took a risk on Dez Bryant, in the first no less, and I don't see Garrett complaining about the Bryant pick.

 

[DFWJC]

I'm not sure the jets would trade future multi pro bowler Coples even straight up for Austin and Spencer....especially with them having him cheap for 4 more years. Let alone throw in a 2nd and 3rd. In fact, I don't think they give us the 2nd and 3rd straight up for Austin and the high priced Spencer.
That trade is just lunacy. And if I read it right, you even added more by allowing us to trade 1st with them. Holy cow. You are WAY overvaluing our expensive and fairly old vets.

But it was creative

I like almost the players tat you took, but this really far-fetched

 

[Muhast]

2nd l 2nd l FS/CB David Amerson l North Carolina State l 6'2 205 4.35
13 INTs in 2011 and 5 INTs in 2012; All world when playing in a zone & man off scheme; explosive, physical & great size in run game; Ball hawk extraordinaire; 39" vertical, 11' broad and 4.35 40 at pro day



3rd l KR/CB/FS Tyrann Mathieu l LSU l 5'9 195 4.46
Most dynamic player in 2011 before derailed by off field incidents; no real position on D (slot corner, FS, range corner) but pure playmaker wherever he lines up; pick six threat at all times; physical, forces fumbles & is extremely instinctive & fluid on the field; Cowboys connection: Les Miles & Deion Sanders

Amerson got exposed this year imo. He REALLLLLLY struggles with double moves, and gets caught peaking into the backfield and that results in long tds. I loved him last year, really disappointed in him this year.

Besides failing OVER 10 drug tests, Mathieu never had a pick 6 in college. Not sure about that comment that I bolded. He does force a lot of fumbles:11 in 2 years. But had 4 ints. I can't help but think of the last time we actually saw him on the field, he was getting targetted in the NCAA championship game, and I felt that he really came up small in that game. I know it happens from time to time, but that was the biggest game he's played in and he didn't do anything. I see absolutely 0 chance we'd take a chance on him. There aren't many 5'9 180 lb 4.5 guys making pro-bowls in the NFL. Could you imagine him trying to cover Calvin,Andre,Fitz,Julio,Nicks,Dez etc?

 

[BAT]

Amerson got exposed this year imo. He REALLLLLLY struggles with double moves, and gets caught peaking into the backfield and that results in long tds. I loved him last year, really disappointed in him this year.

Besides failing OVER 10 drug tests, Mathieu never had a pick 6 in college. Not sure about that comment that I bolded. He does force a lot of fumbles:11 in 2 years. But had 4 ints. I can't help but think of the last time we actually saw him on the field, he was getting targetted in the NCAA championship game, and I felt that he really came up small in that game. I know it happens from time to time, but that was the biggest game he's played in and he didn't do anything. I see absolutely 0 chance we'd take a chance on him. There aren't many 5'9 180 lb 4.5 guys making pro-bowls in the NFL. Could you imagine him trying to cover Calvin,Andre,Fitz,Julio,Nicks,Dez etc?

Amerson is not a man cover corner, he is not fluid enough when turning and running. He is great in zone coverage and man off when he is allowed to play to his strengths which is to keep the receivers in front of him. But the kid has great size, willingness to hit (unlike some big corners) and great ball instincts. Even in an off year, he still had 5 INTs. He is a ballhawk, exactly what Cowboys lack in the secondary, and would be a sweet 4-3 zone center fielder, worst case scenario is he would be good zone corner.

Mathieu returned 2 fumbles for TDs and returned 2 kicks for TDs in 2011. The guy simply makes plays when he has the ball in his hands. 4.5 is nothing to sneeze at but he has football functional speed, he plays faster than he times - like Jerry Rice and others. Cherry picking one game is a little weak especially when this kid was the D player of the game in the 2011 Cotton Ball Classic. More often than not, he plays his best in the big games. 2011 was not an illusion.

As for his size, you actually make the case for me, Mathieu is an extremely physical player and he played closer to 190 than 180. And there are a ton of 5'9 corners in the NFL & there have always been, this cannot be a legit gripe. And I am sure he still has room on his frame to add more muscle. And there have been some very good 5'9 safeties as well. Thomas Everett was almost exactly the same size as Mathieu (5'9 190 vs. 5'9 195), Bob Sanders is an inch shorter, Troy Polumalu is an inch taller.

 

[BAT]

I'm not sure the jets would trade future multi pro bowler Coples even straight up for Austin and Spencer....especially with them having him cheap for 4 more years. Let alone throw in a 2nd and 3rd. In fact, I don't think they give us the 2nd and 3rd straight up for Austin and the high priced Spencer.
That trade is just lunacy. And if I read it right, you even added more by allowing us to trade 1st with them. Holy cow. You are WAY overvaluing our expensive and fairly old vets.

But it was creative

I like almost the players tat you took, but this really far-fetched

The trade may need more pieces but it is still doable and win-win for both teams. IMO Coples will not see any pro bowls in a 3-4 scheme. Especially when he is asked to 2 gap. Coples is better off in a pure 1 gap scheme.

Coples MAY have pro bowls in his future but Spencer and Austin are already a proven commodity. If the trade needs more spice then let's keep cooking, no point in stopping mid way to critique the recipe.

I just want playmakers man. I will keep playing the mad scientist until we get them. RKGs are nice but playmakers first and foremost is better.

 

[Muhast]

Amerson is not a man cover corner, he is not fluid enough when turning and running. He is great in zone coverage and man off when he is allowed to play to his strengths which is to keep the receivers in front of him. But the kid has great size, willingness to hit (unlike some big corners) and great ball instincts. Even in an off year, he still had 5 INTs. He is a ballhawk, exactly what Cowboys lack in the secondary, and would be a sweet 4-3 zone center fielder, worst case scenario is he would be good zone corner.

Mathieu returned 2 fumbles for TDs and returned 2 kicks for TDs in 2011. The guy simply makes plays when he has the ball in his hands. 4.5 is nothing to sneeze at but he has football functional speed, he plays faster than he times - like Jerry Rice and others. Cherry picking one game is a little weak especially when this kid was the D player of the game in the 2011 Cotton Ball Classic. More often than not, he plays his best in the big games. 2011 was not an illusion.

As for his size, you actually make the case for me, Mathieu is an extremely physical player and he played closer to 190 than 180. And there are a ton of 5'9 corners in the NFL & there have always been, this cannot be a legit gripe. And I am sure he still has room on his frame to add more muscle. And there have been some very good 5'9 safeties as well. Thomas Everett was almost exactly the same size as Mathieu (5'9 190 vs. 5'9 195), Bob Sanders is an inch shorter, Troy Polumalu is an inch taller.

Your naming safeties, not CBs. And as far as CB's go, they are getting bigger and bigger as the NFL wr's do. There are still guys like Antoine Winfields, but look at the size of the best CB's in the league last year! These are the nfl pro-bowlers last season:
AFC- Champ Bailey( 6'0 192) Jonathan Joseph(5'11 189)Antonio Cromartie (6'2 210)
NFC-Charles Tillman(6'2 198) Patrick Peterson (6'1 219)Tim Jennings (5'8 185)

So, you have 1 CB out of 6 pro-bowlers who has comparable size, and Jennings was a JAG until last season, he had never had more then 2 ints in a year until last year.
Darelle Revis( 5'11 198) Brandon Carr (6'0 210) Nnamdi Asomugha (6'2 210) Richard Sherman (6'3 195) Morris Claiborne(5'11 188)

Are you interested in him as a FS or a CB? And as far as legitimate gripes, 10+ failed drug test, suspended from the team indefinitely until he failed another drug test after that, which led to him being kicked off the team. He has more character red flags than any player coming out in a long time. There is no chance Garrett signs off on him. Absolutely zero.


And Amerson gave up 4 tds against Miami last season. Let that sink in for a second.

 

[XxTDxX]

So you've traded Miles Austin and your replacement is Josh Boyce? Fine with your idea of trading Austin and Spencer but give me something in the first 2 rounds to take Austins place

 

[BAT]

Your naming safeties, not CBs. And as far as CB's go, they are getting bigger and bigger as the NFL wr's do. There are still guys like Antoine Winfields, but look at the size of the best CB's in the league last year! These are the nfl pro-bowlers last season:
AFC- Champ Bailey( 6'0 192) Jonathan Joseph(5'11 189)Antonio Cromartie (6'2 210)
NFC-Charles Tillman(6'2 198) Patrick Peterson (6'1 219)Tim Jennings (5'8 185)

So, you have 1 CB out of 6 pro-bowlers who has comparable size, and Jennings was a JAG until last season, he had never had more then 2 ints in a year until last year.
Darelle Revis( 5'11 198) Brandon Carr (6'0 210) Nnamdi Asomugha (6'2 210) Richard Sherman (6'3 195) Morris Claiborne(5'11 188)

Are you interested in him as a FS or a CB? And as far as legitimate gripes, 10+ failed drug test, suspended from the team indefinitely until he failed another drug test after that, which led to him being kicked off the team. He has more character red flags than any player coming out in a long time. There is no chance Garrett signs off on him. Absolutely zero.


And Amerson gave up 4 tds against Miami last season. Let that sink in for a second.

There are a lot of 5'9ish corners in this league, not just pro bowler Tim Jennings or Antoine Winfield. Lardarius Webb, DeAngelo Hall, Asante Samuels, Terrence Newman, Orlando Scandrick are all in that 5'9-5'10 range.

And IMO Mathieu could play all over the D - boundary corner, slot corner, FS or even SS. He is a playmaker. And of course there is risk in drafting this player but not as much risk if he was a first day pick. We are talking about mid round pick who has proven production as a playmaker. Cowboys have not been averse to taking these kind of chances later in the draft or UDFA, just like most of the successful team in the league. You have to draft talent to win. Playing it safe does nothing to improve you.

As for Amerson, every corner has a bad day, or even season. Terrence Newman would play at a pro bowl level one year and completely poop the rug the next. Scheme changes, injuries, concentration lapses happen.

The Cowboys need playmakers for Kiffin's scheme to work.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Honey Badger is off the board and in the box. You can continue to argue every argument known to man but it is NOT going to happen. Time to get over that fantasy.

 

[Smith22]

Honey Badger is off the board and in the box. You can continue to argue every argument known to man but it is NOT going to happen. Time to get over that fantasy.

Agreed. If reports are true that he failed over 10 drug tests, his chances of being a Cowboy are slim to none.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

1. The Jets would never go for that ridiculous trade.

2. Star will not drop to 18. We'd have to trade up (and I'm not opposed to that idea).

3. We are not drafting the Honey Badger, nor do I want us to.

 

[Salrandin]

You need to ask a Jets fan what they think of this trade... i doubt they would trade coples straight up for spencer and austin.

 

[xwalker]

How many guys? What does that prove. Waters did it last season. Don't pretend you know what he wants or will do. Maybe you could throw up a spread sheet to convince us what Waters thinks

I am glad you are not a weatherman or a profiler, you are much better off playing with excel. Mathieu is not a first day pick, let alone a first rounder. I think even your spreadsheets will show you that the Honey Badger is a playmaker. His production was Deionesque, except Mathieu will smack you in the mouth. If available in the 3rd, he would be worth the risk. Jerry still signs off on the picks and he loves to stamp his mark on everything, especially in the drafts.

You appear to have spreadsheet envy.

 

[BAT]

You appear to have spreadsheet envy.

LOL. Nice comeback I have to admit.

 

[xwalker]

LOL. Nice comeback I have to admit.

Thanks.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm better with spreadsheets than comedy, but even the worst comedians get a laugh once in a while.

 

[TheSport78]