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If I ask you guys what the most important position on the team is, I would get almost universal concensus that that position is QB. Two years ago it looked like we had caught lightening in a bottle with Dak, but even then he had some rough patches. People forget those because of all the wins.

This past year, Dak looked good at times and at other times quite frankly played very bad. I will start off by saying the team won't just give up on Dak. I'm almost certain of that. What I'm not so sure of is how confident they are in their belief that Dak IS the guy.

There are about six (6) QBS that I am seeing mocked ahead of us. While that IS possible, San Fran just signed theirs. The Browns won't take two QBs in front of us. Cousins will be signed as a starter by someone in front of us. If all six of those guys are franchise quality QBs one of them may we'll slide to us.

I know some will say that would never happen.! The trust is no one can be sure of that. A player at #19 on his rookie contract will cost anout what a quality backup would cost you. So cost will not be an impediment if the right QB is there.

The team may have enough confidence in Dak that they won't be interested. But if the right player falls to them they would be foolish to write off that player IF they aren't 100 percent sold on Dak.

Let's be real about this.... taking a QB at #19 would be a real opportunity cost of another starting quality player. But would you take Baker Mayfield over Taco? Hell yeah, all day every day.

Mayfield is going to turn some people off with his attitude. Some will not like his size. Drew Brees lasted until the second round because of his size and they are similarly built players. Also some will say his stats are artificially inflated playing against big 12 defenses running a spread offense. Others will dodge him because of the heisman curse factor.

Whoever the QB that falls happens to be, if the grade is there and he is clearly the best player on the board, and the team also grades him out to be a franchise QB would the Cowboys consider the player?

Most will say NO. I think the answer is "possibly". What say you?
 
If I ask you guys what the most important position on the team is, I would get almost universal concensus that that position is QB. Two years ago it looked like we had caught lightening in a bottle with Dak, but even then he had some rough patches. People forget those because of all the wins.

This past year, Dak looked good at times and at other times quite frankly played very bad. I will start off by saying the team won't just give up on Dak. I'm almost certain of that. What I'm not so sure of is how confident they are in their belief that Dak IS the guy.

There are about six (6) QBS that I am seeing mocked ahead of us. While that IS possible, San Fran just signed theirs. The Browns won't take two QBs in front of us. Cousins will be signed as a starter by someone in front of us. If all six of those guys are franchise quality QBs one of them may we'll slide to us.

I know some will say that would never happen.! The trust is no one can be sure of that. A player at #19 on his rookie contract will cost anout what a quality backup would cost you. So cost will not be an impediment if the right QB is there.

The team may have enough confidence in Dak that they won't be interested. But if the right player falls to them they would be foolish to write off that player IF they aren't 100 percent sold on Dak.

Let's be real about this.... taking a QB at #19 would be a real opportunity cost of another starting quality player. But would you take Baker Mayfield over Taco? Hell yeah, all day every day.

Mayfield is going to turn some people off with his attitude. Some will not like his size. Drew Brees lasted until the second round because of his size and they are similarly built players. Also some will say his stats are artificially inflated playing against big 12 defenses running a spread offense. Others will dodge him because of the heisman curse factor.

Whoever the QB that falls happens to be, if the grade is there and he is clearly the best player on the board, and the team also grades him out to be a franchise QB would the Cowboys consider the player?

Most will say NO. I think the answer is "possibly". What say you?

I got no problem taking a QB at 19 if one of the potential franchise QBs falls to us.
 
There is zero percent chance the Cowboys go QB at 19.

Why?

Wasn't Aaron Rogers drafted in the teens? What if a top level QB dropped to 19, a player the Cowboys have a first round grade on. Why not draft him?

You telling me Dak is too emotionally unstable to handle some competition? Doesn't Garrett say constantly that competition is good for a football team and that if a player is scared to compete for his job he needs to find another team?

Why does that not apply to Dak? And even if Dak is the real deal, we have an undrafted free agent behind him. Plus you could always trade the QB your drafted later if Dak turned back into his probowl form.
 
Why?

Wasn't Aaron Rogers drafted in the teens? What if a top level QB dropped to 19, a player the Cowboys have a first round grade on. Why not draft him?

You telling me Dak is too emotionally unstable to handle some competition? Doesn't Garrett say constantly that competition is good for a football team and that if a player is scared to compete for his job he needs to find another team?

Why does that not apply to Dak? And even if Dak is the real deal, we have an undrafted free agent behind him. Plus you could always trade the QB your drafted later if Dak turned back into his probowl form.

Personally I love and hate Dak had the first year he had..... While many were gearing up for a year of Romo and his makeshift offense, they got Dak with a limited playbook and no video on him. That was a huge plus in our books. Giving we had a far easiest schedule didn't hurt either.....

Sadly his 2nd year with a 1st rank schedule and a QB that has game film on him, we see a lot of the flaws too. Optimistically we can say Sophomore slump, but realistically we have to worry..... Most great QB's get their butt handed to them their first year. Learning the curve, getting use to NFL speed, etc..... Dak did excellent in that. He did it with an all star offensive line as well..... The same line that fell apart to injury and poor planning. The issue is he had time to throw the ball, but no one to throw to. With our weapons, this is an issue..... Rather he hates throwing our WR's and TE's open or the WR's and TE's can't get open.... Either way this is an issue..... If it is Dak's fault and plays like Alex Smith, then we need to change the playbook for shorter passes and play to his strengths, if it is that our weapons are more to Romo's play, then maybe a QB with that style would be more cost efficient compared to changing the WR's and TE's.

I hope the game tape is viewed well and they decide correctly.... Either way could be correct...... Just depends on the future game plan vs the QB style....
 
Personally I love and hate Dak had the first year he had..... While many were gearing up for a year of Romo and his makeshift offense, they got Dak with a limited playbook and no video on him. That was a huge plus in our books. Giving we had a far easiest schedule didn't hurt either.....

Sadly his 2nd year with a 1st rank schedule and a QB that has game film on him, we see a lot of the flaws too. Optimistically we can say Sophomore slump, but realistically we have to worry..... Most great QB's get their butt handed to them their first year. Learning the curve, getting use to NFL speed, etc..... Dak did excellent in that. He did it with an all star offensive line as well..... The same line that fell apart to injury and poor planning. The issue is he had time to throw the ball, but no one to throw to. With our weapons, this is an issue..... Rather he hates throwing our WR's and TE's open or the WR's and TE's can't get open.... Either way this is an issue..... If it is Dak's fault and plays like Alex Smith, then we need to change the playbook for shorter passes and play to his strengths, if it is that our weapons are more to Romo's play, then maybe a QB with that style would be more cost efficient compared to changing the WR's and TE's.

I hope the game tape is viewed well and they decide correctly.... Either way could be correct...... Just depends on the future game plan vs the QB style....

Good points bro.............they have to change the offense more to Dak's strengths this year, I hope that is what they meant by "Dak friendly".
 
Good points bro.............they have to change the offense more to Dak's strengths this year, I hope that is what they meant by "Dak friendly".

If Garrett wants Dak to be a cookie cutter version of Troy Aikman he is off in la la land. He better figure out what Dak does well and put him in a position to succeed. Stop putting pressure on your QB to make bad decisions with the football by forcing it to Dez would be a great idea too.
 
If Garrett wants Dak to be a cookie cutter version of Troy Aikman he is off in la la land. He better figure out what Dak does well and put him in a position to succeed. Stop putting pressure on your QB to make bad decisions with the football by forcing it to Dez would be a great idea too.
Or at least get the passes close enough to Dez to be caught
 
If Garrett wants Dak to be a cookie cutter version of Troy Aikman he is off in la la land. He better figure out what Dak does well and put him in a position to succeed. Stop putting pressure on your QB to make bad decisions with the football by forcing it to Dez would be a great idea too.

It's true forcing things to a certain weapon is a no no, especially when you have multiple weapons like we do..... While a speedster as our #2 WR would be beneficial, we have two speedsters as slot receivers. Maybe sure up the OL and go more weapons would be an idea.... Though I hate the money it would take to have pro bowlers at almost each position of the OL....

I still think building our trenches is the best thing offensively and defensively through the draft, maybe getting some experienced weapons in FA is not the worst idea.....
 
Why?

Wasn't Aaron Rogers drafted in the teens? What if a top level QB dropped to 19, a player the Cowboys have a first round grade on. Why not draft him?

You telling me Dak is too emotionally unstable to handle some competition? Doesn't Garrett say constantly that competition is good for a football team and that if a player is scared to compete for his job he needs to find another team?

Why does that not apply to Dak? And even if Dak is the real deal, we have an undrafted free agent behind him. Plus you could always trade the QB your drafted later if Dak turned back into his probowl form.

Rodgers was drafted 24th overall... dropped like a rock after SF drafted Alex Smith 1st overall.
I like the idea of grabbing a QB that drops to us at 19 if he rates high enough to justify it. However, the Jones' will be looking to trade that pick quickly if that's the case.
 
If Bill Belichick said he was ready to coach the cowboys, that wouldn't be an option.. we're happy with jason and his timeouts and challenges..
 
If Garrett wants Dak to be a cookie cutter version of Troy Aikman he is off in la la land. He better figure out what Dak does well and put him in a position to succeed. Stop putting pressure on your QB to make bad decisions with the football by forcing it to Dez would be a great idea too.
He can be in lala land if he wants. He’ll be in the unemployment line as well because he’s an idiot for not making the offense Dak friendly to begin with. That clown
 
Rodgers was drafted 24th overall... dropped like a rock after SF drafted Alex Smith 1st overall.
I like the idea of grabbing a QB that drops to us at 19 if he rates high enough to justify it. However, the Jones' will be looking to trade that pick quickly if that's the case.
Let’s not forget Aaron Rodgers was drafted because Favre was old and threatening retirement every year. He was drafted when a team should be looking to draft a future franchise QB, not when they have a 2nd year QB who was Rookie of the Year 1 season ago and had many games last year with a QB rating over 90.
 
Cowboy fans: if there is a way to over hype and to set back the franchise, i am alllllllll for it.
 

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