All those years spent fixing the defense and what did it do for the Cowboys?

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The Cowboys' defense has struggled for a very long time. That's fairly obvious to anyone who follows this team for a while.,

The frustrating thing is, it certainly hasn't been as if the Cowboys haven't taken a great deal of effort to fix the problem. Indeed, the Cowboys have seemingly been trying to put together a good defense ever since 2002.

From 2002-2007, every single Cowboys first-round pick was a defensive player. (Roy Williams, Newman, Spears, Ware, Carpenter, Spencer.) And yet in the 2006 season, quarterbacks such as Drew Brees and Michael Vick scorched the Cowboys' defense for five and four touchdown passes, respectively. The following season, the Cowboys allowed 48 points to the Patriots in a defeat.


Fast forward to 2008. The Cowboys used a first-round pick to draft Mike Jenkins, a cornerback. They also acquired Pacman Jones. Here now surely was a strong secondary that would make the Cowboys' defense one of the league's elite, right?

2008 was a rather mediocre season for the defense. 2009 was better - the Cowboys limited the Raiders, Commanders (at home,) Commanders (away,) and Eagles (at home) to 7, 6, 0, and 0 points respectively. The defense got back-to-back shutouts for the first time in franchise history. In some respects, 2009 was perhaps the best Cowboys defensive season in many years. It was marred by allowing 34 points to Favre and the Vikings in the playoffs, but for the most part it was a good defensive year.


But in 2011, the Cowboys' defense just could not stop Eli Manning in two crucial, vital games against the Giants. So the Cowboys traded up to draft Morris Claiborne and also signed Brandon Carr. Again, a strong focus on strengthening the defense.

But the following year, the Cowboys allowed Griffin and the Commanders to score 38 points at Cowboys Stadium. Then in the season finale, Alfred Morris ran for 200 yards and the Cowboys simply could not stop the Commanders offense when it mattered most.



So, that's the long story - the Cowboys spending a decade of time trying to put together a good defense.




And yet, despite drafting Claiborne and acquiring Carr, what happened against the Broncos? Answer: The Cowboys' defense allowed Denver to score 51 points...........the most points the Cowboys have allowed in a single game in nearly 43 years. They also allowed over 500 yards to the Chargers and over 500 yards to the Broncos.


Is there nothing that this team can do to finally fix its defense once and for all?
 

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The Cowboys, of course, also got Rob Ryan and Monte Kiffin to be defensive coordinators as well.
 

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We have switched defenses after 10 years of trying to build a 3-4. It going to take time. Everyone didn't automatically transition well to it , but a lot of them did. We must hang in their for half the season, the young players will get better.
 
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we've only drafted one defensive linemen in the first three rounds from the last six drafts.

jets have drafted four the last three years (3 in the first round).

that's why one team is 2-3 with a top notch qb and the other team is 3-2 with a rookie qb.
 

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Have to give it more time. We're obviously not winning the sb so we have this year to work on things.
 

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we've only drafted one defensive linemen in the first three rounds from the last six drafts.

jets have drafted four the last three years (3 in the first round).

that's why one team is 2-3 with a top notch qb and the other team is 3-2 with a rookie qb.


yeah, thats it. yup
 

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OP, what do you think the average life of an NFL career, is, anyway?
 

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All those years spent fixing the defense and what did it do for the Cowboys?

How was the 2013 off season spent fixing the defense exactly? You mean swapping one over rated d coordinator for another and switching to a scheme they didnt have the personnel for?
 

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we've only drafted one defensive linemen in the first three rounds from the last six drafts.

jets have drafted four the last three years (3 in the first round).

that's why one team is 2-3 with a top notch qb and the other team is 3-2 with a rookie qb.

they are 3-2 because Tampa Bay gave them the game, let's be real here.
 

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187beatdown said:
they are 3-2 because Tampa Bay gave them the game, let's be real here.

Same for us we should be 1-4 giants gave us the game
 

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we've only drafted one defensive linemen in the first three rounds from the last six drafts.

jets have drafted four the last three years (3 in the first round).

that's why one team is 2-3 with a top notch qb and the other team is 3-2 with a rookie qb.

beat me to it....beyond ware, we have who on the line this year? spears was a bust, ratliff has been injured for forever. this is why we have scrubs starting on the line.

you can have the best secondary ever, and get torched...you can only cover for so long. without men in the trenches, we'll continue to get torched
 

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we've only drafted one defensive linemen in the first three rounds from the last six drafts.

jets have drafted four the last three years (3 in the first round).

that's why one team is 2-3 with a top notch qb and the other team is 3-2 with a rookie qb.


Or, ya know... Lavonte David doesn't commit an idiotic penalty and their 2-3 also.

Not saying we wouldn't be better off by drafting more DL bodies in the first 3 rounds because we very well may.

But those also may have been wasted picks seeing how we've transitioned from a 5-2, to 3-4 under hybrid, to a 4-3 under in that period. Some of that acquired talent may have gone the way of Lissemore with an inability to transition, and we could possibly be even worse off.
 

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Same for us we should be 1-4 giants gave us the game

It's for that reason, that we absolutely should have won the game. It's not as if the Giants outplayed us for much of the game. Sure, you can say they would have beaten us had they played better, but you can say that for any team. And that game wasn't an aberration for NYG. They've been like that all year.
 

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It has been mentioned here and I agree that it was not a smart move to install a system that runs zone coverage when the CBs are man to man coverage guys. When Kiffin was plucked from the retirement home, the comment was made that the scheme would fit the CBs and that a Seahawks type coverage scheme would be used. I don't know what happened to that ideal. Depending on Ratt to play was an excuse not to draft any DL and that has really hurt as well. This defense must not fit players like Carter either. He has regressed this year. Seems like Kiffin is determined to use his scheme wheather it fits these players or not. Injuries seem to have Ware in a decline and when all of this is added up, it is a mess.
 

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Problem with this defense is that it lacks passrushers besides Ware. We wasted too much just to get corners but really haven't invested in any type of passrush whatsoever. The Tampa 2 needs passrushers. If this scheme is going to work thats what you need consistently.
 

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would be nice to see Jerry pull a hat trick and move up and Clowney.. just wish in on a Dallas Star.
 
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