Alright, just who did 'ya beat?

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(title taken from a sports show discussion about Cleveland)

There are quite a few indicators that affect how a team is viewed and how trust of fans is applied to a team.

We all know that change is a requirement for observation and faith given up by media, other teams, and loyal fans. As tasty as an easy schedule; high draft picks over a period of time placed on roster; or projected records as to wins/losses. But these seem more as transient thoughts and not a ton of meat for our ever - present doubters.

In today's football world, the single most dominant feature is a team's quarterback. Here, a quick check of two statistics seems relevant. Probably, the strongest indicators in this arena are the total yardage per pass attempt, and completion percentage.

This pair of stats, will quickly tell one if his quarterback is win relevant, or just a bus driver.

In 2019, when Dak Prescott had the reigns, As to completion percentage, Dak was at 65.1%. Other players, such as Aaron Rogers at 63%; Patrick Mahomes at 65.6%; and Tom Brady at 60.5%, were below that levwl. That is truly ball park relevant. Dak can be seen as very relevant on a current view of Dallas team strength.

As to yardage per pass attempt, for his career, Dak at 6.86, he ranks above Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger and below Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, and Deshaun Watson. Another check mark for indicators for leadership.

As to relevancy of the entire team, a season's point differential is a pretty strong indicator for over all team strength. Dak's last full season, 2019, Dallas was 6th in point differential (points scored vs points allowed) +113

This past season, Dallas fell to 25...and there were many reasons, but not having Dak Prescott lead the list.

The Cowboys defense was the leading contributor to losses for this past season. The pandemic was the leading cause for both change and inability, but coaching and player depth were the culprits, here.

The team Defensive Coordinator was changed and this is a major move for the Cowboys...but that will remain to be shown as to degree of contribution.



The Dallas Cowboys needed a lot of work to rebuild their defense this offseason; that was clear after they fielded one of the worst units in team history last year. All three levels needed a boost in talent and the Cowboys went out and added several veterans, as well as most of their draft capital on defense. In a weird twist, it’s highly unlikely all the talent added will make the team come September.

The organization should’ve seen the defensive demise coming. Dallas had been declining on that side of the ball and they continued to make the same mistakes in its construction year after year. The team doesn’t value safety play, has a group of linebackers who can’t stay healthy and didn’t put enough resources into the defensive line.

Failing to address their defensive line with significant talent has been a major part of Dallas’ defensive issues.

Their rivals in the NFC East, the Washington Football Team, won the division in 2020 with one of the best defenses in the league. Washington built their defense around a strong group in the trenches, using four first-round picks on the defensive line in the past five drafts. Prior to the 2021 draft, the WFT used a first-round pick on a defensive lineman in four straight years.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...ster-building-defensive-line/ref=SiteHype.com

The positional group that should reflect strengthening and supportive depth, are the linebackers. This group now supports: OL Micah Parsons, OL Jaylon Smith, MLB Leighton Vander Esch...and important section contributors in Jabril Cox and Keanu Neal. This should serve as the glue that holds the 2021 defense together. This group can control the run, rush the quarterback, and support in pass defense at a high level as well.

Change can be seen with new additions in free agency as well as from the draft, at point in the secondary as well as the defensive line....but this is still projecting and sounds like another yea...yea...yea.

Here is the missing element, that even Jerry Jones needs to pick up and take to heart... Fans don't go looking at their teams for show room cars so powerful that the muscle car leaves the Little Old Lady from Pasadena's head bounced off her head rest...but for a team that does this...beats good teams.

As with Cleveland, and it's 11 win season...who did they beat to get there?

With a very soft schedule this year, Dallas should also come out with a 10 or 11 win season, but the old stumbling remains to be broken through. Who did you beat?

The first game of the season, is against NFL quality, Tampa Bay. The team had best add another quality secondary and defensive line free agent, and grow from that point in their season. That, or they may be yet another Cleveland Brown team with easy wins, quality players, and little to show come playoff time. Nothing will be there beyond another reckoning with the salary cap and musical chair depth at season's end, yet again.

Tampa Bay has all their starters returning from a Super Bowl team. Dallas better be pushing to play them on equal ground. That is at the start of this upcoming season, not a dream and easy wins.

You actually paying attention to your fans, Jerry...please don't end up after the Play Offs with your own fans asking you, who did YOU beat?
 
(title taken from a sports show discussion about Cleveland)

There are quite a few indicators that affect how a team is viewed and how trust of fans is applied to a team.

We all know that change is a requirement for observation and faith given up by media, other teams, and loyal fans. As tasty as an easy schedule; high draft picks over a period of time placed on roster; or projected records as to wins/losses. But these seem more as transient thoughts and not a ton of meat for our ever - present doubters.

In today's football world, the single most dominant feature is a team's quarterback. Here, a quick check of two statistics seems relevant. Probably, the strongest indicators in this arena are the total yardage per pass attempt, and completion percentage.

This pair of stats, will quickly tell one if his quarterback is win relevant, or just a bus driver.

In 2019, when Dak Prescott had the reigns, As to completion percentage, Dak was at 65.1%. Other players, such as Aaron Rogers at 63%; Patrick Mahomes at 65.6%; and Tom Brady at 60.5%, were below that levwl. That is truly ball park relevant. Dak can be seen as very relevant on a current view of Dallas team strength.

As to yardage per pass attempt, for his career, Dak at 6.86, he ranks above Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger and below Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, and Deshaun Watson. Another check mark for indicators for leadership.

As to relevancy of the entire team, a season's point differential is a pretty strong indicator for over all team strength. Dak's last full season, 2019, Dallas was 6th in point differential (points scored vs points allowed) +113

This past season, Dallas fell to 25...and there were many reasons, but not having Dak Prescott lead the list.

The Cowboys defense was the leading contributor to losses for this past season. The pandemic was the leading cause for both change and inability, but coaching and player depth were the culprits, here.

The team Defensive Coordinator was changed and this is a major move for the Cowboys...but that will remain to be shown as to degree of contribution.



The Dallas Cowboys needed a lot of work to rebuild their defense this offseason; that was clear after they fielded one of the worst units in team history last year. All three levels needed a boost in talent and the Cowboys went out and added several veterans, as well as most of their draft capital on defense. In a weird twist, it’s highly unlikely all the talent added will make the team come September.

The organization should’ve seen the defensive demise coming. Dallas had been declining on that side of the ball and they continued to make the same mistakes in its construction year after year. The team doesn’t value safety play, has a group of linebackers who can’t stay healthy and didn’t put enough resources into the defensive line.

Failing to address their defensive line with significant talent has been a major part of Dallas’ defensive issues.

Their rivals in the NFC East, the Washington Football Team, won the division in 2020 with one of the best defenses in the league. Washington built their defense around a strong group in the trenches, using four first-round picks on the defensive line in the past five drafts. Prior to the 2021 draft, the WFT used a first-round pick on a defensive lineman in four straight years.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...ster-building-defensive-line/ref=SiteHype.com

The positional group that should reflect strengthening and supportive depth, are the linebackers. This group now supports: OL Micah Parsons, OL Jaylon Smith, MLB Leighton Vander Esch...and important section contributors in Jabril Cox and Keanu Neal. This should serve as the glue that holds the 2021 defense together. This group can control the run, rush the quarterback, and support in pass defense at a high level as well.

Change can be seen with new additions in free agency as well as from the draft, at point in the secondary as well as the defensive line....but this is still projecting and sounds like another yea...yea...yea.

Here is the missing element, that even Jerry Jones needs to pick up and take to heart... Fans don't go looking at their teams for show room cars so powerful that the muscle car leaves the Little Old Lady from Pasadena's head bounced off her head rest...but for a team that does this...beats good teams.

As with Cleveland, and it's 11 win season...who did they beat to get there?

With a very soft schedule this year, Dallas should also come out with a 10 or 11 win season, but the old stumbling remains to be broken through. Who did you beat?

The first game of the season, is against NFL quality, Tampa Bay. The team had best add another quality secondary and defensive line free agent, and grow from that point in their season. That, or they may be yet another Cleveland Brown team with easy wins, quality players, and little to show come playoff time. Nothing will be there beyond another reckoning with the salary cap and musical chair depth at season's end, yet again.

Tampa Bay has all their starters returning from a Super Bowl team. Dallas better be pushing to play them on equal ground. That is at the start of this upcoming season, not a dream and easy wins.

You actually paying attention to your fans, Jerry...please don't end up after the Play Offs with your own fans asking you, who did YOU beat?
TLDR
 
What was discussed were valid pointers beyond seeing play this season.

Who a team beats, as to strong teams, is a category that can hold both the team and Jerry accountable for more than just change...analysis and a reasonable ovservable element.

If length is a problem, don't listen to a sports analyst either. Subject was the point, not stereotyping and feigning understanding.

All have a view, if not read...don't stand on style as a as this was a tame post.
 
I really want to understand this post; I'm going to keep re-reading it until i do

Man, your use of commas is really throwing me for a loop. Never seen anything quite like it
 
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While you mean girls were criticizing the post"s length, I wisely spent the time investing in offshore marine shares, and watched them grow ... is the post over with? ... Must reach a resting place ... for me weary shining eyes
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While you mean girls were criticizing the post"s length, I wisely spent the time investing in offshore marine shares, and watched them grow ... is the post over with? ... Must reach a resting place ... for me weary shining eyes
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Right now my rankings for Cowboyszone incomprehensibility are

1. Melon feud. I am convinced if you showed him his post history from more than a year in the past, he couldn’t even decipher it. Complete gibberish

2. GimmeTheBall. Sometimes your posts are perfectly articulate, and sometimes I’m not entirely sure they’re in English

3. New number 3? The OP; Seems he has a lot to say and some really interesting points, but he took a handful of concise subtopics... and turned them into 24 paragraphs(yes I counted)

He’s giving you a run for your money
 
What was discussed were valid pointers beyond seeing play this season.

Who a team beats, as to strong teams, is a category that can hold both the team and Jerry accountable for more than just change...analysis and a reasonable ovservable element.

If length is a problem, don't listen to a sports analyst either. Subject was the point, not stereotyping and feigning understanding.

All have a view, if not read...don't stand on style as a as this was a tame post.
I need the translated version to get the full impact from your post. By the way, I have missed you and your post CCBoy. It takes great minds like yours to add real substance to this message board. I look forward to attempting to read and comprehend the posts that you so eloquently write. This board was deprived of a great deal of knowledge since you haven’t been here. It seems like you still have the ability to post on a simple subject and make it as confusing as possible. Kudos buddy.
 
This past season, Dallas fell to 25...and there were many reasons, but not having Dak Prescott lead the list.

The Cowboys defense was the leading contributor to losses for this past season. The pandemic was the leading cause for both change and inability, but coaching and player depth were the culprits, here.

Now what was the primary reason Dak or the defence ?
 
Now what was the primary reason Dak or the defence ?
Contributing aspects...beating good teams was the measure presented.

The 'old fashiioned' way...forcing the opposition to actually deal with an aggressive team, and not a press clipping stack.

And the urgency is already there for this Cowboys team.

I would sign a strong player in free agency at cornerback and defensive line...but the first game will be a real indicator of starting points. At least for this season.
 
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Once again - someone please tell me how Dak and his inflated, garbage time personal stats does anything for the team?
When he leads Dallas to a good win against a strong team...you going to come out with some more inflated stereotypes?

Not all reasonable stats are worthless...and are you now implying that this season's offense is second class?
 
What was discussed were valid pointers beyond seeing play this season.

Who a team beats, as to strong teams, is a category that can hold both the team and Jerry accountable for more than just change...analysis and a reasonable ovservable element.

If length is a problem, don't listen to a sports analyst either. Subject was the point, not stereotyping and feigning understanding.

All have a view, if not read...don't stand on style as a as this was a tame post.

While you're looking at Cleveland and asking who did you beat to get there, you might want to take a look at another team's 11-5 season. They lost to every decent team they played except Green Bay. They beat one team with a winning record all season. The Tampa Bay Bucs. Who did they beat to get there? Didn't matter.
 
While you're looking at Cleveland and asking who did you beat to get there, you might want to take a look at another team's 11-5 season. They lost to every decent team they played except Green Bay. They beat one team with a winning record all season. The Tampa Bay Bucs. Who did they beat to get there? Didn't matter.

Tampa beat some good teams in the playoffs. They ended up in the top slot, but touched a lot of the suggested above indicators. As well, Cleveland won a lot of games, but their one good team victory came against the Titans.

Not a game break, as Tampa Bay grew and played tough games aggressively as the season progressed. Brady led them strongly this past season. They also had a strong point differential going for them.
 
Tampa beat some good teams in the playoffs. They ended up in the top slot, but touched a lot of the suggested above indicators. As well, Cleveland won a lot of games, but their one good team victory came against the Titans.

Not a game break, as Tampa Bay grew and played tough games aggressively as the season progressed. Brady led them strongly this past season. They also had a strong point differential going for them.

Didn't Cleveland also beat the Colts? Yes the point differential is a big difference between the teams, but what does that really tell you? In what way did the 113 point differential help Dallas in 2019?
 
I'm confused by this post like everyone else, but once I see Dak being compared to guys like Rodgers and Mahomes I have to stop, collect my thoughts, and move on.
 
I have missed these obscenely long post and the confusion that comes with them. Is the Cliff Notes version available?

seemed like old very obvious and redundant information most knew about already in very LOOONGGGG yet nothing answered, possibly Rhetorical??

its didn't touch on Clevelands record yet they mentioned it and why that matters with us..

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I'm confused by this post like everyone else, but once I see Dak being compared to guys like Rodgers and Mahomes I have to stop, collect my thoughts, and move on.
Prescott is in the zip code of players that does include Rogers and Mahomes...either try to grasp the two stats, yardage per attempt and completion percentage, or answer the question yourself. Those two stats are strong indicators of just how much value is in a team's quarterback. Dak meets the litmus tip despite failure stereotypes that end up being purely personal bias.
 

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