Amari Cooper has been the difference for Dallas

[JDSmith]

For me, Ws matter infinitely more than how many points you score because a good defense will often go Negan on a good offense.

So you like Cooper because we're playing bad teams?

We're not scoring more points with him.

 

[Techsass]

I want to see us use Amari more, but our #1's main purpose has always been as a decoy. Dez in his prime was a real threat, so our opponents had to double & follow him downfield. That's what I'd like to see from Amari.

Our Oline has been much better. The 2 together might be enough to get us past Washington & the Eagles. The season finale should be a lot better than the intro was.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

 

[LatinMind]

2014 Seattle 9th in ppg
2015 New England 3rd in ppg
2016 Denver 21st in ppg - one year you can hang your hat on
2017 Philly was 1st in ppg and their opponent New England was 2nd in ppg
2018 New Orleans/Kansas City/Rams 1st/2nd/3rd in ppg (Dallas is 25th in ppg)

2016 I'll give you. But 3 of the last 4 champs have been top 9 in ppg. The other champ was a Peyton Manning led team.

It is what it is.

And look at the QBs in these games...Wilson, Brady, Manning and a hot as hell Foles (yes still shocks me as well).

2014 SEA allowed 15.9 pts per game. (1)
2015 NE allowed 19pts per game(10)
2016 DEN allowed 18.6 pts per game (4)
2017 PHI allowed 18.4 pts per game(4)

This stat ur trying to make isnt working. In the last 4 yrs NE having the 10 ranking scoring defense was a lowest in the last 4 super bowls. The number in () are the rankings in scoring defense

 

[Toruk_Makto]

2014 SEA allowed 15.9 pts per game. (1)
2015 NE allowed 19pts per game(10)
2016 DEN allowed 18.6 pts per game (4)
2017 PHI allowed 18.4 pts per game(4)

This stat ur trying to make isnt working. In the last 4 yrs NE having the 10 ranking scoring defense was a lowest in the last 4 super bowls. The number in () are the rankings in scoring defense

2014 Seattle 5th offense 1st defense
2015 New England 5th offense 12th defense
2016 Denver 21st offense 1st defense
2017 Philly 8th offense 5th defense
2018 Dallas 21st offense 23rd defense

What in these numbers suggest that defense over offense is the road to NFL success.

 

[LatinMind]

2014 Seattle 5th offense 1st defense
2015 New England 5th offense 12th defense
2016 Denver 21st offense 1st defense
2017 Philly 8th offense 5th defense
2018 Dallas 21st offense 23rd defense

What in these numbers suggest that defense over offense is the road to NFL success.

dallas doesnt have the 23rd soring defense they are 3rd and 10pts from being #1

 

[Toruk_Makto]

dallas doesnt have the 23rd soring defense they are 3rd and 10pts from being #1

DVOA

 

[xwalker]

I love Cooper and that he brings but I think you have to recognize Colombo's work on the Oline.

It's hard to know where to give the credit.

Cooper
Columbo
Su-Filo

Something is different with Zeke. His burst now looks incredible; whereas, early in the season he looked slower than in the past. His focus/effort is also the best I've seen from him.

The play calling has changed a little bit also. Some of that can be shown statistically. They started to pass on 1st downs way more often instead of their extremely predictable habit of always running on 1st down.

Zeke said he sees 1 less man in the box since Cooper arrived.

 

[LatinMind]

DVOA

lol WTH you people take this stat stuff like its what matters. What matters is the pts being scored and scored against. How are you going to say stat that made up over something thats absolute as in pts allowed. Defense-adjusted Value Over Average <<<< hahahaha come on dude. This next gen stat stuff is a bunch of garbage. Dallas doesnt allow alot of pts, plain and simple. If they can score pts and in most cases 21 pts they are going to win.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

lol WTH you people take this stat stuff like its what matters. What matters is the pts being scored and scored against. How are you going to say stat that made up over something thats absolute as in pts allowed. Defense-adjusted Value Over Average <<<< hahahaha come on dude. This next gen stat stuff is a bunch of garbage. Dallas doesnt allow alot of pts, plain and simple. If they can score pts and in most cases 21 pts they are going to win.

Points per drive given up and scored is actually much more important. Like a LOT more important.

Counting stats. LOL.

 

[charron]

Cooper has made a small difference. But so has the Oline with better blocking and Zeke better running. Playcalling has been better as well, but linehan is still slow to evolve.

Would love to see coop tear it up but 14 catches and 1 TD is what most good #1 guys do in a game.

 

[Knotamus]

Moreso the reverse - top offenses help defenses, particularly top run offenses.

Teams often (too often) go one dimensional when they're behind, letting the defense play downhill.
Later in the game, the defense really gets to look like champs as desperate teams have to take more and more risk to score quickly.
Ball control offenses keep their defenses fresh.

I agree with you. Although in today’s NFL, the run game has taking a backseat to the passing game in general. There’s a reason most consider the NFL a passing league. Look no further than the recent Rams v. Chiefs game. The Cowboys are one of the few teams that are still using the run game to control the clock and/or game.

 

[Knotamus]

I want to see us use Amari more, but our #1's main purpose has always been as a decoy. Dez in his prime was a real threat, so our opponents had to double & follow him downfield. That's what I'd like to see from Amari.

Dez in his prime had a better QB throwing him the ball.

 

[kskboys]

Cooper has made a small difference. But so has the Oline with better blocking and Zeke better running. Playcalling has been better as well, but linehan is still slow to evolve.

Would love to see coop tear it up but 14 catches and 1 TD is what most good #1 guys do in a game.

No it's not. 14 catches in a game would equal 224 catches in a season.

The top pass catcher in the NFC last year had 109 catches which equals out to 6.8 catches/game.

I think you're guilty of watching too many highlights and not enough games.

 

[Knotamus]

It's hard to know where to give the credit.

Cooper
Columbo
Su-Filo

Well, if we’re going to heed the words of Zeke himself.. Zeke when interviewed, directly credited Columbo’s coaching and the renewed aggressive approach of the OL for his recent success.

Alexander coached the OL to “catch and redirect” when blocking

Columbo reverted back to what worked the previous years.. he coaches the OL to attack the DL, thus creating more push and/or room for Zeke to make his reads and choose running lanes

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I like what Cooper has shown with us but will always feel he's going to be limited by this QB.

We're also going to pay a Cooper top dollar when we extend him, which is a conundrum. Sorta like paying for a Ferrari to commute in stop-n-go traffic.

 

[Number1]

ATLANTA — Through three games with the Cowboys, No. 1 wideout Amari Cooper has 14 catches for 169 yards and one touchdown. Multiply his per-game averages by 16 and he’d have a season with 74 catches, 901 yards and five scores. Then consider he’s coming off his least-productive game of the season against the Falcons, catching just three passes for 36 yards.

the missing element of this offense can gel fast - namely the new WRs

I like Cooper's numbers considering he's been in town all of 4 week and played 3 games

I liked Hurns last 3 games too, not counting his 8 snaps and and 0 targets in ATL:
8 of 9 targets for 137, and a TD - that projects to 730y and 5 TDs in a season.
At 5 targets a game ... that's 1,200y and 8 TDs - isn't that a $6M a year X supposed to do?

he may see more action this week https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/cowboys-allen-hurns-role-could-increase-thursday/

IMO, Gallup will be fine - the best athlete of the bunch.

Hurns, Gallup, and Cooper have to deliver the big plays Dak once got with Dez, Williams, and Butler when this was a top 5 scoring O.
the new crew is smaller, but much younger, much faster, and IMO with better hands - they can do this

Happy Thanksgiving

 

[Dre11]

I already posted what I didn't like in my first post to you on this thread. The passing game looks the same. I have nothing against him or anyone else personally. I probably will never be that fan. My dislike or like is based on on field play only with a few outlier situations.

The passing game looks the same? ....lol hen you don't know what you're watching. The other receivers finding space is right there for everyone to see, the pressure he puts on a secondary is obvious...but you don't see a difference...lol

 

[Philmonroe]

The passing game looks the same? ....lol hen you don't know what you're watching. The other receivers finding space is right there for everyone to see, the pressure he puts on a secondary is obvious...but you don't see a difference...lol

You don't know what you're watching but I'm not surprised. Most of y'all see W so its all fixed. Yep don't see a difference and the numbers agree with the on field play also so yeah spare me your emotional the passing game has changed.

 

[Dre11]

Amari is making a nice difference. But there is no way he'll stay here with this little opportunity downfield.

Still can't believe, against Atlanta's horrible secondary, that Dallas didn't complete a pass more than 10 yards downfield.

Why are you'll worried about downfield passing, the object is to score TDs anyway you can. If moving the chains by run and short to intermediate plays work, so be it.