Anderson Silva > Fedor
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Hes less famous than Lesnar. The WWE had a lot to do w/ that, but UFC is making him mainstream. Youll see Brock on like Jimmy Kimmell before his next fight. Fedor is largely unknown to the masses.
Its fair what youre saying about their resume's, but I just feel like Fedor had a sweet deal on the table in so many ways. And if he beat Lesnar the UFC would try and bring in whoever else would good competition. I dont know why he wants to be the big fish in a small pond.
Its fair what youre saying about their resume's, but I just feel like Fedor had a sweet deal on the table in so many ways. And if he beat Lesnar the UFC would try and bring in whoever else would good competition. I dont know why he wants to be the big fish in a small pond.
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Rampage/Ren who are your favorite fighters to watch (out side of the obvious rampage)
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the kid 05;2876479 said:
Shogun
Fedor
Joachim Hansen
Crocop
Silva
Rampage
Henderson
Honorable mention to Don Frye and Bas Rutten for being the ultimate bad *****
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Comparing Fedor and Brock?
Big Nog x2, Crocop, Randleman, Arona Coleman x2, Babalu, Sylvia, Arlovski .. the guy could retire today and be known as arguably the greatest MMA fighter to ever live. The man lost one time, via an illegal elbow strike, nearly 9 years ago. But people still want to talk about him as if he still has something to prove to the MMA world and especially a man with a total of 5 fights on his record?
Unbelievable.
But about the original question - Anderson has dominated opponents to the point it is an openly good question. I don't think other side would be wrong in suggesting either. Easily 1A nad 1B, IMO.
Hopefully Hos finally got to see why Anderson is considered one of the greats of this sport, finally.
Big Nog x2, Crocop, Randleman, Arona Coleman x2, Babalu, Sylvia, Arlovski .. the guy could retire today and be known as arguably the greatest MMA fighter to ever live. The man lost one time, via an illegal elbow strike, nearly 9 years ago. But people still want to talk about him as if he still has something to prove to the MMA world and especially a man with a total of 5 fights on his record?
Unbelievable.
But about the original question - Anderson has dominated opponents to the point it is an openly good question. I don't think other side would be wrong in suggesting either. Easily 1A nad 1B, IMO.
Hopefully Hos finally got to see why Anderson is considered one of the greats of this sport, finally.
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Ummm...lets see...I think Brock actually has a contract with a company and can't just 'go wherever he wants to' at this point.
When his deal in UFC is up, if Fedor is the only dude he wants to fight, he'll be free to go sign in whatever little side show company that Fedor is currently residing in at that point.
Fedor was the one with the control in this situation, much like the last few times, cause he's the guy whose always out of a contract, and needing a company to work for, cause the ones he works for keeping shutting down and having to close.
Yeah he'd have only had Brock or Cro Cop or Couture or Mir to fight in the UFC. That's true. There aren't a whole lot of big time fights to have in a heavyweight division. But that's still 4 fights that people would pay to see as opposed to the 1-2 other legit fights he's going to have outside of the UFC and those are with guys working for two different companies.
There isn't another company out there that has even 2 guys in their heavyweight division that people can honestly say they'd be dying to see Fedor fight their guy. There is one in Strikeforce and one in Dream.
Outside of that it's guys like Barnett and Rogers and those guys aren't anything better than seeing him kill Mir or beat the hell out of Cro Cop. So why not go where there would be better money, better reconition, and the shot to shut up any doubters that you're the #1 HW and the best pound for pound fighter in the world?
It's pretty simple for Fedor. It's not about doing that. He hasn't cared about fighting anyone worth a crap since he beat Nog in Pride. People can point to Tim and Arlovsky till they're blue in the face as evidence that he's fought bad ***** and I'll continue to laugh.
Tim? Really? You mean the guy that Nog submitted and Randy Couture, that 50 year old chump as people seem to think of him, destroyed? That's the guy that proves that Fedor is still top notch? That wouldn't be the same Tim that just got KO'd by Ray Mercer would it? Surely not.
Or how about Arlovsky (Spelled wrong no doubt) the guy who hasn't been the same since Tim KO'd his butt. These are the two toughest fights he's had since Nog in Pride and that's just not cutting it for me anymore in terms of the best pound for pound in the world.
Best heavyweight? No doubt. I don't see any reason to take that away from him. There isn't any other HW out there who I think has any shot of actually beating him besides Lesnar.
But best pound for pound you've got to fight more than what he's fought in the last few years to be that.
The 10 straight fights that Anderson has won in the UFC are all vastly more impressive than the last few that Fedor has had. Anderson is the best pound for pound in the world for my money.
I'd pay twice as much money to watch Anderson Silva beat guys like Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson, Griffin, etc. then I'd ever pay to watch Fedor smash guys like Tim and Josh Barnett.
When his deal in UFC is up, if Fedor is the only dude he wants to fight, he'll be free to go sign in whatever little side show company that Fedor is currently residing in at that point.
Fedor was the one with the control in this situation, much like the last few times, cause he's the guy whose always out of a contract, and needing a company to work for, cause the ones he works for keeping shutting down and having to close.
Yeah he'd have only had Brock or Cro Cop or Couture or Mir to fight in the UFC. That's true. There aren't a whole lot of big time fights to have in a heavyweight division. But that's still 4 fights that people would pay to see as opposed to the 1-2 other legit fights he's going to have outside of the UFC and those are with guys working for two different companies.
There isn't another company out there that has even 2 guys in their heavyweight division that people can honestly say they'd be dying to see Fedor fight their guy. There is one in Strikeforce and one in Dream.
Outside of that it's guys like Barnett and Rogers and those guys aren't anything better than seeing him kill Mir or beat the hell out of Cro Cop. So why not go where there would be better money, better reconition, and the shot to shut up any doubters that you're the #1 HW and the best pound for pound fighter in the world?
It's pretty simple for Fedor. It's not about doing that. He hasn't cared about fighting anyone worth a crap since he beat Nog in Pride. People can point to Tim and Arlovsky till they're blue in the face as evidence that he's fought bad ***** and I'll continue to laugh.
Tim? Really? You mean the guy that Nog submitted and Randy Couture, that 50 year old chump as people seem to think of him, destroyed? That's the guy that proves that Fedor is still top notch? That wouldn't be the same Tim that just got KO'd by Ray Mercer would it? Surely not.
Or how about Arlovsky (Spelled wrong no doubt) the guy who hasn't been the same since Tim KO'd his butt. These are the two toughest fights he's had since Nog in Pride and that's just not cutting it for me anymore in terms of the best pound for pound in the world.
Best heavyweight? No doubt. I don't see any reason to take that away from him. There isn't any other HW out there who I think has any shot of actually beating him besides Lesnar.
But best pound for pound you've got to fight more than what he's fought in the last few years to be that.
The 10 straight fights that Anderson has won in the UFC are all vastly more impressive than the last few that Fedor has had. Anderson is the best pound for pound in the world for my money.
I'd pay twice as much money to watch Anderson Silva beat guys like Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson, Griffin, etc. then I'd ever pay to watch Fedor smash guys like Tim and Josh Barnett.
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If you scheduled a Couture Fedor fight right now for lets say Jan there's a good chance Couture would die from old age before that fight ever took place, He's already beaten Nog and Crocop so that leaves what exactly in the UFC Brock? 
the guy has 5 fights, whine away about Fedor padding stats but that's exactly what he'd be doing if he fought Brock right now too.
Who ever he fights it's going to be easy, he's that good.
When Fedor was fighting these "easy" fights in Pride the HW champ in the UFC was the likes of Sylvia and Arlovski which he beat in his last 2 fights, the last fight he had scheduled was against Barnett who before all the roid crap came to light was ranked the #2 HW in the world and considered better then the top 2 guys in the UFC, if Fedor was only interested in easy fights he would have never scheduled that fight.
You could name a who's who of HWs in the last 10 years besides Couture and Fedor has beaten them, he's beaten as many formor champs as Brock has fights. Lets see Brock hold his belt for 6 years before we start comparing him to the greatest ever
the guy has 5 fights, whine away about Fedor padding stats but that's exactly what he'd be doing if he fought Brock right now too.Who ever he fights it's going to be easy, he's that good.
When Fedor was fighting these "easy" fights in Pride the HW champ in the UFC was the likes of Sylvia and Arlovski which he beat in his last 2 fights, the last fight he had scheduled was against Barnett who before all the roid crap came to light was ranked the #2 HW in the world and considered better then the top 2 guys in the UFC, if Fedor was only interested in easy fights he would have never scheduled that fight.
You could name a who's who of HWs in the last 10 years besides Couture and Fedor has beaten them, he's beaten as many formor champs as Brock has fights. Lets see Brock hold his belt for 6 years before we start comparing him to the greatest ever
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And like I said that's fine. He might be the greatest HW in the world. Quite possibly the best heavyweight of all time. I'm not saying he isn't.
He's no longer, in my eyes, the best Pound for Pound fighter in the world because he hasn't fought anyone worth a crap, IMO, since he fought Nog and Cro Cop in Pride. Those fights were 3 or 4 years ago.
In fact when I looked at his record earlier today I found that come December of this year he'll have fought exactly 4 times in 3 years.
Sorry but a schedule like that, given the 4 guys he fought in that 3 year span, doesn't allow you to be the best pound for pound fighter in the world anymore.
Anderson Silva in the last 365 days has fought as many, or more, fights as Fedor has in 3 years and Silvas list of opponents during his 10 fights includes Franklin, Henderson, and Griffin. I'll take that over anything Fedor has done since Cro Cop and Nog.
I'm more than willing to say that Fedor is still the best HW in the world. But he's no longer the best Pound for Pound. He's been unseated for that by a guy who fights a heck of a lot more often and against much better competition, IMO.
He's no longer, in my eyes, the best Pound for Pound fighter in the world because he hasn't fought anyone worth a crap, IMO, since he fought Nog and Cro Cop in Pride. Those fights were 3 or 4 years ago.
In fact when I looked at his record earlier today I found that come December of this year he'll have fought exactly 4 times in 3 years.
Sorry but a schedule like that, given the 4 guys he fought in that 3 year span, doesn't allow you to be the best pound for pound fighter in the world anymore.
Anderson Silva in the last 365 days has fought as many, or more, fights as Fedor has in 3 years and Silvas list of opponents during his 10 fights includes Franklin, Henderson, and Griffin. I'll take that over anything Fedor has done since Cro Cop and Nog.
I'm more than willing to say that Fedor is still the best HW in the world. But he's no longer the best Pound for Pound. He's been unseated for that by a guy who fights a heck of a lot more often and against much better competition, IMO.
