Andre Gurode...

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How many snaps did he mess up today? I counted 3 that were all brutal. This guy is an idiot, he's started for how many years and he still gets mocked because he does the dumbest things.

He is at best, a backup. Your center can't be one of the dumbest people on the team.

/end rant
 
if Dallas didnt have such glaring holes at other spots on the OL...your right...upgrading the C would be priority number 1.
 
After watching this game, it's time to bring in some serious competition for him. Remember Gurode can play guard too.
 
I would like to see Costa get some snaps at center as the season winds down, and let Gurode compete with the other slug, Davis, at OG.

There are a handful of players on this team that will usually find a way to screw up, and Gurode is one of them.

As we approach the final stretch, guys like Costa, Young, Choice and Church should get to play more.
 
The line needs to be 80% rebuilt, what more is there to say.
 
gmoney112;3718516 said:
How many snaps did he mess up today? I counted 3 that were all brutal. This guy is an idiot, he's started for how many years and he still gets mocked because he does the dumbest things.

He is at best, a backup. Your center can't be one of the dumbest people on the team.

/end rant
another Loser who needs to go !!!
 
I dont think Gurode needs to go. I think he can play guard but his snaps at center is terrible we need another center. Maybe a veteran next year and keep phil costa as the back up then start him if he progress the following year.
 
RS12;3718546 said:
The line needs to be 80% rebuilt, what more is there to say.


this it one the mark, also HH has to follow suit, but get a new offensive line coach and input with the draft and let him work with garrett.

Next year Garrett is still going to have holes, lets face it, but play with whats not so bad compared to cutting the fat. Its just that, reality.

Thats why i so desperatly want the guy whos going to be here to already be here and start doing their evaluations on what they want and use the offseason to make their changes.
 
ThreeSportStar80;3718543 said:
After watching this game, it's time to bring in some serious competition for him. Remember Gurode can play guard too.

Yeah and I wish he was playing guard instead of center.
 
i wonder sinc we are now basically out of the playoff race do we start to see some young guys play in place of our declining veterans.
young guys like choice, mccann, sean lee, barry church, danny mccray, phil costa, sam young? And why is the saints project olineman still on our 53 man roster.
 
ladiewolve;3718579 said:
Yeah and I wish he was playing guard instead of center.

The guy is playing with degenerating knees. I think he'd be good blocking straight ahead, but I don't think he'd hold up having to pull game in/game out. And a guard has to be able to pull, even if it's from one A/B gap to the other. I think he'd eventually become a liability just like Davis.
 
Chief;3718545 said:
I would like to see Costa get some snaps at center as the season winds down, and let Gurode compete with the other slug, Davis, at OG.

There are a handful of players on this team that will usually find a way to screw up, and Gurode is one of them.

As we approach the final stretch, guys like Costa, Young, Choice and Church should get to play more.

I absolutely agree with this and the players you mentioned. Get them some game experience and also help show whether or not they may be able to take over in the near future.

-Reality
 
One of those bad snaps was on Kitna. But when was the last time we talked about bad snaps from Gurode? Have you even heard from the guy all season?

People really want Costa in over Gurode when he was semi-horrible against the Giants? People really need to watch DTs around the league push centers into the backfield on almost every single block play to get perspective on what we have.

He's the starter and will be the starter for some years to come. There's a reason that even publications that called out Davis for being overrated still deem Gurode an all pro center.
 
gmoney112;3718516 said:
How many snaps did he mess up today? I counted 3 that were all brutal. This guy is an idiot, he's started for how many years and he still gets mocked because he does the dumbest things.

He is at best, a backup. Your center can't be one of the dumbest people on the team.

/end rant

I've been down on Gurode for years; he's way overrated and is in serious decline.

For those with the ability to rewatch the game, keep an eye on Gurode and watch how many times he literally sits in the pocket with his arms by his side as the defenders are beating blocks inside on the gaurds.

He's inept.
 
It's simple - our OL is terrible. When you're worried about being blown off the ball every single play stuff like Gurode's snaps happen. All night long when the Cowboys passed the pocket would take no more than 2 seconds to completely collapse all around Kitna. The way Kitna managed the football tonight was nothing short of amazing giving how atrocious our line is.
 
You know the guy's not exactly a rocket scientist when he's played 10 years in the league and is still maybe the only center in the league who doesn't make the line calls. No way you can return both Bigg and Gurode next year ... you gotta breakup tweedle-dumb and tweedle-dee.
 
if Big Bill would have listened to me in 06 we have Mangold instead of B Carp

an cut Gurode

he was lousy at OG

he would have been off my team in 06
 

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