andrew luck vs romo

[tm1119]

Funny that you say these things, and the mock in your sig STILL doesn't include an OL. Give the guy a break, and less give him a decent O-Line!

That was with my plan of signing Carl Nicks....

 

[03EBZ06]

Hell no, I wouldn't.

We know what Romo brings to the table but Luck and RG3 is just an NFL prospect right now, nothing more.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

That was with my plan of signing Carl Nicks....

Very smart part of your plan.

 

[tm1119]

To be quite honest I don't care what you have. I just find it funny that instead of simply saying why someone has this or that opinion they go immediately to name calling and labeling.

When that's the standard for the person then I don't worry about giving their thoughts, or opinions, much merit. Even when their initial thoughts or opinion could possibly have had some interesting discussion.

So yeah whey don't you post those stats against the top 4 QBs and see how they compare.

Oh, I know why you didn't, because his stats fair very favorably with the top 5 QBs in the league.

And I'm sure when you're done with the winning part of it that you'll be posting said winning numbers for the other 21 positions on the starting teams? You know since winning is a team accomplishment where as individual stats are just that, individual.


Probably not huh? Better to resort to your name calling and labeling cause it's quicker and easier.

1st, take a look at the other guy calling me dumb and blind for no reason. Is calling him names back the mature thing to do? No, but oh well this is the internet. No one is mature.

2nd, you must be kidding if you think Romo's #'s stack up to the actual great QB's. We are talking about guys that its considered a down year if they throw for less than 4000 yards and 35 TD's. Thats a career year for Romo.

3rd, Pats have the worst D in the league this year, but they are in the Super Bowl. Colts win 10 games with Peyton, 2 without. Great QB's like Brady, Manning, and Brees are worth 10 wins by themselves. Romo is not that QB, nor will he ever be.

 

[CATCH17]

We have so many other holes that I wouldn't do that trade because as much as I like Andrew Luck I don't see him as being a top guy anytime soon.



But if I were to trade Romo and some picks for him than I would completely blow the thing up and trade Demarcus Ware for all I could get.

 

[ringmaster]

Hate to brake it to you but Romo is pretty far from great. Hes good but great is a strong word that doesnt apply to many, and Romo just isnt in that class.

Id take both Luck and RG3 over Romo right now no doubt.

OMG your credibility has just went out of the window.

 

[dalboy]

its threads like these that make question why I even come to this forum anymore

 

[egn22]

i think the arguing is annoying, but i appreciate this site more than most others related to the cowboys. my favorite is cowboyszone. this is my second pick when i want to read about cowboys related stuff.

 

[NeonNinja]

Hate to brake it to you but Romo is pretty far from great. Hes good but great is a strong word that doesnt apply to many, and Romo just isnt in that class.

Id take both Luck and RG3 over Romo right now no doubt.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

1st, take a look at the other guy calling me dumb and blind for no reason. Is calling him names back the mature thing to do? No, but oh well this is the internet. No one is mature.

2nd, you must be kidding if you think Romo's #'s stack up to the actual great QB's. We are talking about guys that its considered a down year if they throw for less than 4000 yards and 35 TD's. Thats a career year for Romo.

3rd, Pats have the worst D in the league this year, but they are in the Super Bowl. Colts win 10 games with Peyton, 2 without. Great QB's like Brady, Manning, and Brees are worth 10 wins by themselves. Romo is not that QB, nor will he ever be.

First he said you were truly blind.

He didnt' call you names. He didn't resort to giving you some tag of homer or realist or any of that other crap. He said you were blind, in his opinion, for not seeing how good Romo is.

You took that and immediately called him a homer for it to which he resorted in a childish way by calling you dumb and you then have to call him an idiot.

Ruined any chance that a quality discussion on the subject could have been had by you two on the subject that would have beneficial.


Now as for the stats I provide the following:

These are the stats for Romo, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady over the last 4 full seasons. Brady and Romo have both missed significant time in a season a piece so I went with 4 to be on even seasons with all 4 players.


68.9 4806 50td 8 int 21 sacks
65.7 4398 28 td 13 int 16 sacks
65.9 3900 36 td 4 int 25 sacks
65.6 5235 39 td 12 int 32 sacks


67.5 4423 28td 18 int 16 sacks
65.0 5069 34 td 17 int 13 sacks
68.1 4620 33 td 22 int 25 sacks
71.2 5476 39 ts 12 ints 24 sacks


64.4 4211 36td 19 int 24 sacks
61.3 3448 26td 14 int 20 sacks
63.1 4483 26 td 9 int 34 sacks
66.3 4184 31 td 10 int 36 sacks


63.6 4038 28 td 13 int 34 sacks
64.7 4434 30 td 7 int 50 sacks
65.7 3122 28 td 11 int 31 sacks
68.3 4643 45 td 6 ints 36 sacks

56.1 3336 23td 20 int 27 sacks
60.3 3238 21td 10 int 27 sacks
62.9 4002 31 td 25 int 16 sacks
61.0 4933 29 td 16 int 28 sacks



That's the stats of the guys who've pretty much been argued as the top 4 or 5 QBs along with Romo. Now look at those numbers and tell me whose who without having to look it up.


I noticed you mentioned the 4000 yards, below that being a down year for them and 4000 being a great year for Romo....well as you can see, if you know which ones are his, he obviously does that quite regularly as well.

You also mentioned 35 TDs....as you can see all the numbers here they all missed that mark at least 1 time and one of them, whose a across the board top 3 QB has missed it 3 times. Then you have the other guy whose NEVER thrown for 35 TDs (i'll give you a hint, that one ain't Romo), and yet he's considered one of the top 5 QBs.

So, please, try and tell me again how his stats don't stack up with those guys.


You mentioned your 4000 yards and 35 tds and I quickly dispelled those as false so whats next on the excuse list for how his numbers don't stack up against theirs?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

i think the arguing is annoying, but i appreciate this site more than most others related to the cowboys. my favorite is cowboyszone. this is my second pick when i want to read about cowboys related stuff.

I'll have to check this cowboyszone out. I've never been there.

 

[tm1119]

First he said you were truly blind.

He didnt' call you names. He didn't resort to giving you some tag of homer or realist or any of that other crap. He said you were blind, in his opinion, for not seeing how good Romo is.

You took that and immediately called him a homer for it to which he resorted in a childish way by calling you dumb and you then have to call him an idiot.

Ruined any chance that a quality discussion on the subject could have been had by you two on the subject that would have beneficial.


Now as for the stats I provide the following:

These are the stats for Romo, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady over the last 4 full seasons. Brady and Romo have both missed significant time in a season a piece so I went with 4 to be on even seasons with all 4 players.


68.9 4806 50td 8 int 21 sacks
65.7 4398 28 td 13 int 16 sacks
65.9 3900 36 td 4 int 25 sacks
65.6 5235 39 td 12 int 32 sacks


67.5 4423 28td 18 int 16 sacks
65.0 5069 34 td 17 int 13 sacks
68.1 4620 33 td 22 int 25 sacks
71.2 5476 39 ts 12 ints 24 sacks


64.4 4211 36td 19 int 24 sacks
61.3 3448 26td 14 int 20 sacks
63.1 4483 26 td 9 int 34 sacks
66.3 4184 31 td 10 int 36 sacks


63.6 4038 28 td 13 int 34 sacks
64.7 4434 30 td 7 int 50 sacks
65.7 3122 28 td 11 int 31 sacks
68.3 4643 45 td 6 ints 36 sacks

56.1 3336 23td 20 int 27 sacks
60.3 3238 21td 10 int 27 sacks
62.9 4002 31 td 25 int 16 sacks
61.0 4933 29 td 16 int 28 sacks



That's the stats of the guys who've pretty much been argued as the top 4 or 5 QBs along with Romo. Now look at those numbers and tell me whose who without having to look it up.


I noticed you mentioned the 4000 yards, below that being a down year for them and 4000 being a great year for Romo....well as you can see, if you know which ones are his, he obviously does that quite regularly as well.

Ok I'm done with this. Not going to continue this agruement, its clearly pointless. Im not going to argue with anyone who really thinks Romo is actuallly on the level of Brees, Brady, Manning, or Rodgers.

 

[gmoney112]

Ok I'm done with this. Not going to continue this agruement, its clearly pointless. Im not going to argue with anyone who really thinks Romo is actuallly on the level of Brees, Brady, Manning, or Rodgers.

He just crapped all over you with your own argument. Talk about a rightful pwning.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Ok I'm done with this. Not going to continue this agruement, its clearly pointless. Im not going to argue with anyone who really thinks Romo is actuallly on the level of Brees, Brady, Manning, or Rodgers.

Typical and expected response.

 

[tm1119]

He just crapped all over you with your own argument. Talk about a rightful pwning.

Yup he "pwned" me. Cool.

I just pray none of u ever try to make this argument in public outside of the state of Texas. I don't think you'll be able to deal with the humiliation that follows.

 

[ringmaster]

First he said you were truly blind.

He didnt' call you names. He didn't resort to giving you some tag of homer or realist or any of that other crap. He said you were blind, in his opinion, for not seeing how good Romo is.

You took that and immediately called him a homer for it to which he resorted in a childish way by calling you dumb and you then have to call him an idiot.

Ruined any chance that a quality discussion on the subject could have been had by you two on the subject that would have beneficial.


Now as for the stats I provide the following:

These are the stats for Romo, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady over the last 4 full seasons. Brady and Romo have both missed significant time in a season a piece so I went with 4 to be on even seasons with all 4 players.


68.9 4806 50td 8 int 21 sacks
65.7 4398 28 td 13 int 16 sacks
65.9 3900 36 td 4 int 25 sacks
65.6 5235 39 td 12 int 32 sacks


67.5 4423 28td 18 int 16 sacks
65.0 5069 34 td 17 int 13 sacks
68.1 4620 33 td 22 int 25 sacks
71.2 5476 39 ts 12 ints 24 sacks


64.4 4211 36td 19 int 24 sacks
61.3 3448 26td 14 int 20 sacks
63.1 4483 26 td 9 int 34 sacks
66.3 4184 31 td 10 int 36 sacks


63.6 4038 28 td 13 int 34 sacks
64.7 4434 30 td 7 int 50 sacks
65.7 3122 28 td 11 int 31 sacks
68.3 4643 45 td 6 ints 36 sacks

56.1 3336 23td 20 int 27 sacks
60.3 3238 21td 10 int 27 sacks
62.9 4002 31 td 25 int 16 sacks
61.0 4933 29 td 16 int 28 sacks



That's the stats of the guys who've pretty much been argued as the top 4 or 5 QBs along with Romo. Now look at those numbers and tell me whose who without having to look it up.


I noticed you mentioned the 4000 yards, below that being a down year for them and 4000 being a great year for Romo....well as you can see, if you know which ones are his, he obviously does that quite regularly as well.

You also mentioned 35 TDs....as you can see all the numbers here they all missed that mark at least 1 time and one of them, whose a across the board top 3 QB has missed it 3 times. Then you have the other guy whose NEVER thrown for 35 TDs (i'll give you a hint, that one ain't Romo), and yet he's considered one of the top 5 QBs.

So, please, try and tell me again how his stats don't stack up with those guys.


You mentioned your 4000 yards and 35 tds and I quickly dispelled those as false so whats next on the excuse list for how his numbers don't stack up against theirs?

Ouch Brave you hit him below the belt with that one great work.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Yup he "pwned" me. Cool.

I just pray none of u ever try to make this argument in public outside of the state of Texas. I don't think you'll be able to deal with the humiliation that follows.

I do already. I live outside of the state of Texas.

I've never had to worry about humiliation because I don't make silly claims like 4000 yards and 35 TDs is a down year for these guys and a great year for Romo when all I have to do is actually *GASP* read the stats and realise that what you said is wrong on every possible level.

You're just mad because you opened your mouth, spouted off (in this case via keyboard) a bunch of junk that you clearly didn't know what you were talking about on and it came back and bit you in the backside.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Hate to brake it to you but Romo is pretty far from great. Hes good but great is a strong word that doesnt apply to many, and Romo just isnt in that class.

Id take both Luck and RG3 over Romo right now no doubt.

Credibility gone. :laugh2:

As for the trade no I wouldn't trade a proven elite QB like Romo for an unproven QB like Luck. Luck could be the next Peyton Manning or the next Ryan Leaf we just don't know.

 

[CATCH17]

Saying he would do it right now is a stretch but both of those guys have incredible potential.

Especially Griffin.

 

[tm1119]

I do already. I live outside of the state of Texas.

I've never had to worry about humiliation because I don't make silly claims like 4000 yards and 35 TDs is a down year for these guys and a great year for Romo when all I have to do is actually *GASP* read the stats and realise that what you said is wrong on every possible level.

You're just mad because you opened your mouth, spouted off (in this case via keyboard) a bunch of junk that you clearly didn't know what you were talking about on and it came back and bit you in the backside.

Again, not gonna go there. Youre wrong, but its cool Ill let you feel like you win. This argument is so ridiculous that its not worth my time. No real NFL fan that isnt blinded by their homerism would put Romo anywhere near the same level at Rodgers, Brees, Brady, or Manning. So the fact that you do completely discredits anything you have to say about the matter.

And I hope that was another typical response that you were expecting.

So just for laughs can we put up our top 10 NFL QB's? List 1-10 the guys you would want on your team next year that would give you the best chance at a super bowl. I'll go 1st....

1. Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Eli
5. Big Ben
6. Romo
7. Rivers
8. Stafford
9. Ryan
10. Schaub