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[Seven]

Saturday, May 15, 2010
Rugby Star Greg Inglis Drawing NFL Interest

"I've had inquiries from just about every sport, including (the NFL)," Melbourne Storm manager Allan Gainey said............

He'd have time to fly over there this year for a look around and to test himself out, but his preference is to stay at the Storm."

You keep tellin' yourself that Allan my boy. Wait until someone slaps him in the face with 10 million clams. His response will be "Storm? Yeah, I hate 'em. Messes up the garden scares the chickens."

 

[BAZ]

In most cases I would agree, but Inglis is so good in so many areas combined with his athletic ability, that many of his skills would be transferable to the tight end position in particular in the NFL

Why do you keep beating the TE drum? You don't know he could run a route or block so saying TE is a stretch at the least.

he would even bring things that no current NFL tight end has.

Are you his agent? All this aggressive **** chugging is a bit worrying

All he would need to learn is the structures and the ins and outs of the position, which would take a good two years, perhaps a bit longer. The skill areas he already has. He could be a great receiving tight end with very good potential for YAC.

Yes, that all. Funny how so many fail at just that. You do realise for a Tight End he would be undersize?

 

[Clarkson]

Why do you keep beating the TE drum? You don't know he could run a route or block so saying TE is a stretch at the least.




Are you his agent? All this aggressive **** chugging is a bit worrying




Yes, that all. Funny how so many fail at just that. You do realise for a Tight End he would be undersize?

He's 6'5 238...he could put some more weight on. Might lose some of his speed.

I don't think he'd work in the NFL.

 

[Dundalis]

Why do you keep beating the TE drum? You don't know he could run a route or block so saying TE is a stretch at the least.




Are you his agent? All this aggressive **** chugging is a bit worrying




Yes, that all. Funny how so many fail at just that. You do realise for a Tight End he would be undersize?

I mention Tight End because it's the one position that he could reasonably learn, that would make the most use of his talent. What other position would he be suited to? Linebacker possibly, but he is best with the ball in hand.

His agent? Watch the ****ing video I posted. I say it because I've seen him play many times, I live in Melbourne, he plays for the Melbourne Storm. The man is an awesome talent, and has many translatable skills. I say he could make the transition because of his talent. Learning what you mention would take a while, but he has the natural talent to excel at it. The only thing would be learning the game. He may not succeed, obviously, I said he is the most likely player in Rugby to succeed at making the transition, not he would 100% make it. Learn to read.

He is 6'5 and about 245 pounds. He does a hell of a lot more running in rugby league than he would in the NFL, meaning he does a lot more aerobic training. He could easily add another 20-30 pounds. Even if he lost speed, he would still be faster than any tight end in the NFL his size.

 

[CCBoy]

I mention Tight End because it's the one position that he could reasonably learn, that would make the most use of his talent. What other position would he be suited to? Linebacker possibly, but he is best with the ball in hand.

His agent? Watch the ****ing video I posted. I say it because I've seen him play many times, I live in Melbourne, he plays for the Melbourne Storm. The man is an awesome talent, and has many translatable skills. I say he could make the transition because of his talent. Learning what you mention would take a while, but he has the natural talent to excel at it. The only thing would be learning the game. He may not succeed, obviously, I said he is the most likely player in Rugby to succeed at making the transition, not he would 100% make it. Learn to read.

He is 6'5 and about 245 pounds. He does a hell of a lot more running in rugby league than he would in the NFL, meaning he does a lot more aerobic training. He could easily add another 20-30 pounds. Even if he lost speed, he would still be faster than any tight end in the NFL his size.

No doubt that many skills are translatable as they are mutual to both rugby as well as American football. The endurance aspect is indisputable, as the tung lag factor is real.

 

[tomson75]

"I've had inquiries from just about every sport, including (the NFL)," Melbourne Storm manager Allan Gainey said............

He'd have time to fly over there this year for a look around and to test himself out, but his preference is to stay at the Storm."

You keep tellin' yourself that Allan my boy. Wait until someone slaps him in the face with 10 million clams. His response will be "Storm? Yeah, I hate 'em. Messes up the garden scares the chickens."

There have been several ruggers presented with the opportunity to make a transition to the NFL, including it's "millions of clams", and most of them have wisely declined. Like others have said, the transition is a big one, and to think they'd make an immediate impact on an NFL club would be a big gamble. I would think the failure rate would be high....not because of ability, but rather due to the learning curve. The two sports are VERY different from one another.

Besides, Rugby is a sport highly respected by the majority of the world. It's stars are held in the highest regard by a much larger audience than that of just the NFL, and many of them make some pretty good coin themselves.

 

[Dundalis]

There have been several ruggers presented with the opportunity to make a transition to the NFL, including it's "millions of clams", and most of them have wisely declined. Like others have said, the transition is a big one, and to think they'd make an immediate impact on an NFL club would be a big gamble. I would think the failure rate would be high....not because of ability, but rather due to the learning curve. The two sports are VERY different from one another.

Besides, Rugby is a sport highly respected by the majority of the world. It's stars are held in the highest regard by a much larger audience than that of just the NFL, and many of them make some pretty good coin themselves.

I agree with the first paragraph. But many are calling Inglis the most talented player to have ever played Rugby, League or Union. And Rugby League and Rugby Union are both different sports, similar concepts, looks very similar initially when you watch it, but with completely different rules and fundamental playing styles.

Rugby Union is pretty well respected around the world, and has a decent number of countries that participate. Still don't think I would call it a genuine worldwide sport though, like soccer, golf or tennis. Rugby League, the sport Inglis plays.... not so much. It is basically played in Australia, England, New Zealand, and gaining some popularity in France. In none of those countries however is it the number 1 sport, and only in Australia and New Zealand would it even be in the top 3 sports, and that is even debatable for Australia.

Also there is no chance of a player from rugby or any other sport coming in and making an IMMEDIATE impact, unless it's as a kicker or punter. So you would be looking for someone fairly young that would basically be a project player that you would develop and teach the game to for a couple years. Like is being suggested with Inglis, you bring them in, see how they go at camp, then decide if their talent is large enough to keep on as a project player. You obviously want someone with a very large amount of talent to justify making that decision to develop them. Likely a bad NFL team or one very deficient in the position they are looking to train them in would be likely to take the chance. Meaning obviously not the Cowboys.

 

[reddyuta]

i think nfl teams should scout for some kickers from rugby,those guys kick well from weird angles and still make it.

 

[tomson75]

I agree with the first paragraph. But many are calling Inglis the most talented player to have ever played Rugby, League or Union. And Rugby League and Rugby Union are both different sports, similar concepts, looks very similar initially when you watch it, but with completely different rules and fundamental playing styles.

Rugby Union is pretty well respected around the world, and has a decent number of countries that participate. Still don't think I would call it a genuine worldwide sport though, like soccer, golf or tennis. Rugby League, the sport Inglis plays.... not so much. It is basically played in Australia, England, New Zealand, and gaining some popularity in France. In none of those countries however is it the number 1 sport, and only in Australia and New Zealand would it even be in the top 3 sports, and that is even debatable for Australia.

Also there is no chance of a player from rugby or any other sport coming in and making an IMMEDIATE impact, unless it's as a kicker or punter. So you would be looking for someone fairly young that would basically be a project player that you would develop and teach the game to for a couple years. Like is being suggested with Inglis, you bring them in, see how they go at camp, then decide if their talent is large enough to keep on as a project player. You obviously want someone with a very large amount of talent to justify making that decision to develop them. Likely a bad NFL team or one very deficient in the position they are looking to train them in would be likely to take the chance. Meaning obviously not the Cowboys.

I agree on all counts.

I haven't been following Rubgy for a while, as I haven't been playing, and have no one to really watch it with. I miss it. Thought about joining up with the local Florida team here in the panhandle, but I just don't have the time. I miss it.

I've never been the most educated person on the topic....even when I did play, but I always like learning about it more.

I do often wonder why more guys aren't recruited to kick or punt in the NFL...I'd think the success rate would be pretty high....and they wouldn't even have to be top ruggers. I know there are some colleges that look that route though...I'd bet its a trend that we see more of in the future.

 

[BAZ]

I mention Tight End because it's the one position that he could reasonably learn, that would make the most use of his talent. What other position would he be suited to? Linebacker possibly, but he is best with the ball in hand.

His agent? Watch the ****ing video I posted. I say it because I've seen him play many times, I live in Melbourne, he plays for the Melbourne Storm. The man is an awesome talent, and has many translatable skills. I say he could make the transition because of his talent. Learning what you mention would take a while, but he has the natural talent to excel at it. The only thing would be learning the game. He may not succeed, obviously, I said he is the most likely player in Rugby to succeed at making the transition, not he would 100% make it. Learn to read.

He is 6'5 and about 245 pounds. He does a hell of a lot more running in rugby league than he would in the NFL, meaning he does a lot more aerobic training. He could easily add another 20-30 pounds. Even if he lost speed, he would still be faster than any tight end in the NFL his size.

You live in Melbourne? What a shocker. I watched the video, impressive but as you pointed out he is playing League, those lads might be good athletes, but in the NFL he speed wouldn't stand out as much. And there would be a lot more people his size on the pitch.

You make it sound like packing on 30 pounds is a piece of piss and dismiss leaning the game as if its just a small thing. Also just playing in pads could hamper him.

Being the best athlete doesn't mean he the most likely to make the transition, what if he's a dummy. Learn to think outside of the box.

It may sound like I being hard on your boyfriend, but I don't think NFL players could just walk on a pitch and chase the auld egg around either. And I'm not convinced that kickers can make the transition either. NFL ball has a smaller sweet spot and if it was that straight forward some would have made the transition by now. One of the few transitions that seem to be common is Aussie Rules to GAA and likewise the other way.

 

[Tass]

Props to the rugby players for wearing real honest-to-God shorts!

 

[Dundalis]

I agree on all counts.

I haven't been following Rubgy for a while, as I haven't been playing, and have no one to really watch it with. I miss it. Thought about joining up with the local Florida team here in the panhandle, but I just don't have the time. I miss it.

I've never been the most educated person on the topic....even when I did play, but I always like learning about it more.

I do often wonder why more guys aren't recruited to kick or punt in the NFL...I'd think the success rate would be pretty high....and they wouldn't even have to be top ruggers. I know there are some colleges that look that route though...I'd bet its a trend that we see more of in the future.

I think you could have some success with Rugby converted kickers. They do kick from more acute angles than in the NFL, but generally not from as far out, so you might wonder whether some of them have enough power in their leg to be able to hit those 50 yarders. Plus a rugby ball is a lot bigger than an NFL one, so it would take some adjusting to.

It is much easier I feel for an Australian Rules football player to convert to punter. That is a sport where pretty much the main skill is to punt the ball long distances for much of the game. McBriar is a former Aussie Rules player, and there are at least 2 other former players punting in the NFL, Saverio Rocca is the punter for the Eagles, and Ben Graham for the Cardinals.

You live in Melbourne? What a shocker. I watched the video, impressive but as you pointed out he is playing League, those lads might be good athletes, but in the NFL he speed wouldn't stand out as much. And there would be a lot more people his size on the pitch.

You make it sound like packing on 30 pounds is a piece of piss and dismiss leaning the game as if its just a small thing. Also just playing in pads could hamper him.

Being the best athlete doesn't mean he the most likely to make the transition, what if he's a dummy. Learn to think outside of the box.

It may sound like I being hard on your boyfriend, but I don't think NFL players could just walk on a pitch and chase the auld egg around either. And I'm not convinced that kickers can make the transition either. NFL ball has a smaller sweet spot and if it was that straight forward some would have made the transition by now. One of the few transitions that seem to be common is Aussie Rules to GAA and likewise the other way.

It depends on where he plays. As a tight end, at his size, I think he would be one of, if not the fastest in the league. I don't think there are THAT many 6'5 guys in the NFL faster than him. Feel free to list them if you feel you can. There are probably a few, Calvin Johnson comes to mind, but not that many. You can see in the clip how good his body control in the air is. That stands out no matter what sport you are playing. So no, he wouldn't be the best athlete in the NFL by a long shot, but to say he would be middle of the road is ridiculous.

Packing on 20-30 pounds WOULD be a piece of piss. You obviously don't understand the difference between aerobic and anaerobic exercise and the effects on muscle mass. NFL players, particularly at positions like Tight End or Linebacker, would do FAR more anaerobic exercise than Rubgy, where more endurance is required, meaning more aerobic exercise. There is a reason why marathon runners are all basically twigs, while 100m sprinters are built like tanks in comparison. With an NFL workout regimen, he could easily hit 265-270 pounds. Jason Witten is 6'5 265 pounds. Bennett 6'6 265. In fact he could get up to around 255-260, keep more of his speed and I think he'd be fine.

I didn't say he's just the best athlete. I said he is the best PLAYER in Rugby. He's a natural, you look at him and think he's just a big fast winger and that's it, but don't realise he has played fullback, centre and also 5/8th, which is a completely different position which requires playmaking skills and a complete understanding of the game and most definitely on field intelligence. He's dominated and won major awards at all positions. As a rugby player he has all round skills that very few of his athletic ability have had before. And no this is not just my opinion, journos have written the same about him from other countries, including England, whom he single handedly destroyed in the last tri-nations competition.

Again, I never said he would definitely make it, just that he would have the best chance of making it from Rugby.

But you are talking out your arse, you obviously have very little knowledge of him, and are just making sweeping generalisations when describing him. It's almost pointless even arguing with you about it.

 

[BAZ]

Yes, clearly I know nothing about anything because I don’t agree with your assessment of your home town hero strolling on to a football pitch and pirouetting around all the dumbfounded defenders standing mouth agape, in awe of this truly once in a generation athlete setting records, in between leaping buildings in a single bound and rescuing kids from burning orphanages.



Seeing as all of your seven posts have been E-********* him and you only showed up when this thread was posted I have changed my mind from thinking you are his agent to coming to the conclusion you are indeed himself.


Isn’t that right? MR.INGLIS!

I get it, you like slurping your boy a great deal. And just because I don't buy into your overt homerism, doesn't mean you have to throw your toys out of the pram. Listen, once he packed on 30 pounds, leaned the lingo, play book, how to black, run routes, and receive I'm sure he would be a natural tight end! Piece of piss.

 

[Dundalis]

Yes, clearly I know nothing about anything because I don’t agree with your assessment of your home town hero strolling on to a football pitch and pirouetting around all the dumbfounded defenders standing mouth agape, in awe of this truly once in a generation athlete setting records, in between leaping buildings in a single bound and rescuing kids from burning orphanages.



Seeing as all of your seven posts have been E-********* him and you only showed up when this thread was posted I have changed my mind from thinking you are his agent to coming to the conclusion you are indeed himself.


Isn’t that right? MR.INGLIS!

I get it, you like slurping your boy a great deal. And just because I don't buy into your overt homerism, doesn't mean you have to throw your toys out of the pram. Listen, once he packed on 30 pounds, leaned the lingo, play book, how to black, run routes, and receive I'm sure he would be a natural tight end! Piece of piss.

What a ****ing useless post. I get you are on a wind up given you clearly have no intention of actually debating any of the points I made, but the fact you are being such a cockhead about it takes all humour out of it.

Just admit you know **** all about the player, and stop trying to act like a smart arse know it all. It is piss weak sir.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Greg Inglis is drawing interest from N.F.L. teams as a possible linebacker.

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Greg Inglis is drawing interest from N.F.L. teams as a possible linebacker.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nf...-1225867234815


NFL giants knocking down Inglis' door Peter Badel From: Sunday Herald Sun May 15, 2010 9:34PM Increase Text SizeDecrease Text SizePrintEmail Share
Add to DiggAdd to del.icio.usAdd to FacebookAdd to KwoffAdd to *******Add to NewsvineWhat are these? Melbourne Storm star Greg Inglis could be contemplating a trial with NFL clubs Buffalo and Denver. Source: Herald Sun
GREG Inglis has received an invitation to trial with NFL clubs Buffalo and Denver as nine rugby league clubs target the Melbourne Storm champ.
As investigators continue their probe into Storm's $1.7 million salary cap breach, the Sunday Herald Sun can reveal the hunt for Inglis's signature has gone offshore.

Up to four American gridiron clubs want to trial the bustling Australian Test centre at three-day camps in September.

With the Storm out of finals contention and Australia's end-of-season Four Nations campaign not beginning until October 23, Inglis would be able to squeeze in a US trip to be assessed by the NFL clubs.

Inglis' manager, Alan Gainey, said he had received an approach from Australian-based NFL scouts even before news of Storm's salary-cap breach.

Inglis is contracted to the Storm until the end of 2012, but with the club facing a purge to get under the salary cap next season, there are fears the 23-year-old could go in the cleanout.

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The Brisbane Broncos have made informal inquiries about Inglis, but OzPunt, an Australian-based organisation, says NFL teams are receptive to the Queensland Origin star flying to the US to test his wares in the rugby league off-season.

"There are definite opportunities for Greg Inglis in the NFL," said OzPunt's Cameron McGillivray.

"We've sent tapes of him to NFL clubs and I know for a fact, if Greg was keen, there would be four clubs who would take him tomorrow.

"If Greg is interested, there is an offer for him to attend a mini-camp, where under NFL rules he would be allowed to trial for three days.

"The Storm won't be in the finals, so he would have the opportunity. The NFL scouts don't know a lot about NRL players unless we alert them, but they've seen footage of Greg and they believe he's an amazing talent who could succeed as a kick returner or a linebacker."

The minimum wage in the NFL is $325,000 and Inglis is understood to earn about $500,000 at the Storm, but McGillivray said Inglis could earn $2 million a season within two years if he was successful.

Inglis's interest in the NFL was piqued in December when he met American boxer Roy Jones Jr, who told the Storm ace he'd be a smash hit in the US.

Gainey said Inglis was committed to the Storm, but had not ruled out an NFL experiment later in his career.

"I've had inquiries from just about every sport, including (the NFL)," Gainey said.

"They've got some scouts out here and a few of the scouts thought Greg would be a sensation in the game.

"It's something that might interest Greg down the track. He'd have time to fly over there this year for a look around and to test himself out, but his preference is to stay at the Storm."
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[BAZ]

What a ****ing useless post. I get you are on a wind up given you clearly have no intention of actually debating any of the points I made, but the fact you are being such a cockhead about it takes all humour out of it.

Just admit you know **** all about the player, and stop trying to act like a smart arse know it all. It is piss weak sir.

No offence, like. I'm not trying to wind you up, and the fact that someone disagreeing with your statement of fact about how he can gain 30 pounds, put on pads and not lose a step, shows your overwhelming lust to have him perforate your colon.Don't pass your speculation off as the cold hard truth and expect me to take it serious.



Now tell me again how English journalists have heaped praise on him and let me bow my head.

 

[BAZ]

Also that ilnk Joe provided doesn't work, I'm starting to think Dundalis is a sock puppet created by Joe to drum up interest in this thread.

 

[Dundalis]

No offence, like. I'm not trying to wind you up, and the fact that someone disagreeing with your statement of fact about how he can gain 30 pounds, put on pads and not lose a step, shows your overwhelming lust to have him perforate your colon.Don't pass your speculation off as the cold hard truth and expect me to take it serious.



Now tell me again how English journalists have heaped praise on him and let me bow my head.

Greg Inglis has repeatedly come into preseason weighing in at around 113-114 kilos or around 250 pounds and had to trim down for the start of the season. I know he could add 30 pounds or around abouts because I know how exercise works. Doing a lot of aerobic fitness work makes you lose musclemass that you would build from doing the heavy lifting. Look it up for ****s sake. I don't think he'd need to add 30 anyways, 20-25 would be fine, it's only around 10 kilos. You provide no substantial reasoning to back up your claims he couldn't which is why I will disagree. In fact you provide no factual evidence of anything, just sweeping generalisations and random comments.

I agree it's not a certainty that he would be able to get the ins and outs of a position like tight end down and have made that pretty clear already. I'm confident he could though. In fact as an example, the Aussie Rules team I follow have an American former basketball player, who had also played some high school gridiron on their list being developed. He is 24, and is currently playing in the reserve team, but I am fairly confident he will play AFL eventually. He is a great athlete and has come on leaps and bounds in a short period of time. It will probably take another 2 years for him to be ready, but from what I've seen he was worth the risk of taking him. His skills are still infantile, but his athleticism is such that if he gets it down, he could be a pretty decent player. That's not always going to work, but if you have a talent with physical abilities that fit the game as well as some transferable skills (and there ARE transferable skills from Rugby to American football) and they are young enough to still have miles left in them once they get the game down then there's a decent chance it may work.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic with asking me to show you how english journos have heaped praise on him, you probably are, but I did a quick search and thrown in the below links anyway. In case you think I'm pulling that out my backside.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/...objectid=25023737&siteid=50061-name_page.html

http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-warriors/inglis_must_be_stopped_says_rads_1_202182

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_league/article6897994.ece

 

[BAZ]

I know he could add 30 pounds or around abouts because I know how exercise works.

In fact you provide no factual evidence of anything, just sweeping generalisations and random comments.

Look out Mr.Pot here comes Mr.Kettle!

 

[Dundalis]

Look out Mr.Pot here comes Mr.Kettle!

Erm no.

http://www.weightlossforall.com/aerobic exercise.htm

FACT.