Another JuJo thread....with a different angle.

[EastDallasCowboy]

I know, I know....they're tiring. But I was mulling over stats earlier (hey, you can't get a jump on the FF draft early enough...right?) and came upon this.

If nothing else, it's a bit surprising.

Julius Jones (5' 10")(started all 14 games):
247 rushing attempts for 1019 yds (4.1 YPC). 4 TD. Long of 77.
8 receptions for 132 (16.5 YPC). 0 TD. 3 of 20+. 0 of 40+.
3 defensive tackles (***?)

Maurice Jones-Drew (5' 7")(virtually inactive first two weeks, started 0 games):
135 rushing attempts for 764 yds (5.7 YPC). 10 TD. Long of 48.
36 receptions for 379yds (10.5 YPC). 2 TD. 5 of 20+ and 1 of 40+.
Kick Return avg of 27.6 w/ 1 TD.

Your totals work out to 1151 yards (4.5yds a touch, 255 touches) for Julius vs. 1143 (6.7yds a touch, 171 touches) for Jones-Drew.

Considering Jones-Drew isn't a starter, played in virtually two less games (minimal touches in the first tweo weeks), and is 3" shorter of Julius (and absurdly small for an NFL RB).....I thought this was shocking.

I don't consider the yds per a touch impoortant, since Jones-Drew gets far more receptions than Julius....nor are the TDs overly important since Barber scavenges most Cowboys TDs (although most Jones-Drew TDs aren't goal-line ones).

What I do deduct from these numbers...and watching both players (I'm a proud fantasy dynasty draftee of Jones-Drew and watch him quite a bit) is that while Julius is good, Jones-Drew is a better "lightning to the thunder." Fred Taylor is no thunder, so it's more lightning to 40 year old lightning with a yearly injury, but you get my point.

Looking at it all, I would say that Jones-Drew is more of the back that we here in Dallas would want to complement MBIII's "thunder." I like Julius Jones, let me make it abundantly clear that I don't have an agenda regarding him...but I thought a look at the numbers of a rookie back with a relatively similar style would offer some insight as to what some people feel is lacking in Julius' game.

 

[Jimz31]

I know, I know....they're tiring. But I was mulling over stats earlier (hey, you can't get a jump on the FF draft early enough...right?) and came upon this.

If nothing else, it's a bit surprising.

Julius Jones (5' 10")(started all 14 games):
247 rushing attempts for 1019 yds (4.1 YPC). 4 TD. Long of 77.
8 receptions for 132 (16.5 YPC). 0 TD. 3 of 20+. 0 of 40+.
3 defensive tackles (***?)

Maurice Jones-Drew (5' 7")(virtually inactive first two weeks, started 0 games):
135 rushing attempts for 764 yds (5.7 YPC). 10 TD. Long of 48.
36 receptions for 379yds (10.5 YPC). 2 TD. 5 of 20+ and 1 of 40+.
Kick Return avg of 27.6 w/ 1 TD.

Your totals work out to 1151 yards (4.5yds a touch, 255 touches) for Julius vs. 1143 (6.7yds a touch, 171 touches) for Jones-Drew.

Considering Jones-Drew isn't a starter, played in virtually two less games (minimal touches in the first tweo weeks), and is 3" shorter of Julius (and absurdly small for an NFL RB).....I thought this was shocking.

I don't consider the yds per a touch impoortant, since Jones-Drew gets far more receptions than Julius....nor are the TDs overly important since Barber scavenges most Cowboys TDs (although most Jones-Drew TDs aren't goal-line ones).

What I do deduct from these numbers...and watching both players (I'm a proud fantasy dynasty draftee of Jones-Drew and watch him quite a bit) is that while Julius is good, Jones-Drew is a better "lightning to the thunder." Fred Taylor is no thunder, so it's more lightning to 40 year old lightning with a yearly injury, but you get my point.

Looking at it all, I would say that Jones-Drew is more of the back that we here in Dallas would want to complement MBIII's "thunder." I like Julius Jones, let me make it abundantly clear that I don't have an agenda regarding him...but I thought a look at the numbers of a rookie back with a relatively similar style would offer some insight as to what some people feel is lacking in Julius' game.

Being short for a RB can be an advantage.....before you know it, the little guy is streaking by you and you never saw him from the get-go.

Also, just look at JD....his center of gravity is very low....

 

[EastDallasCowboy]

Being short for a RB can be an advantage.....before you know it, the little guy is streaking by you and you never saw him from the get-go.

Also, just look at JD....his center of gravity is very low....

I tend to agree....but 5' 7"? And that's being generous, if you've seen MJD on the field. I'll put it this way, if he had been playing against the Cowboys Grammatica and his Darth Helmet head would have been the only smaller player on the field....and that would be a toss up.

He looks like a midget against the DLs.....and it amazes me that he's taken the punishment so well this year. He and Gramatica could almost moonlight as jockeys.

 

[Cowboys&Caps]

yea but he has a huge badonkadonk and can prolly squat seventeen metric tons. (MJD)​

 

[Muhast]

How many top runningbacks are over 6?

Barry wasnt, Walter wasnt, Emmitt Wasnt

 

[AdamJT13]

Julius Jones (5' 10")(started all 14 games):
247 rushing attempts for 1019 yds (4.1 YPC). 4 TD. Long of 77.
8 receptions for 132 (16.5 YPC). 0 TD. 3 of 20+. 0 of 40+.
3 defensive tackles (***?)

Maurice Jones-Drew (5' 7")(virtually inactive first two weeks, started 0 games):
135 rushing attempts for 764 yds (5.7 YPC). 10 TD. Long of 48.
36 receptions for 379yds (10.5 YPC). 2 TD. 5 of 20+ and 1 of 40+.
Kick Return avg of 27.6 w/ 1 TD.

Your totals work out to 1151 yards (4.5yds a touch, 255 touches) for Julius vs. 1143 (6.7yds a touch, 171 touches) for Jones-Drew.

If Julius had the same number of rushes and catches as Drew and had the same averages he has right now, he'd have the EXACT SAME total yardage that he does right now -- 1,151. But he'd be averaging 6.73 "yards per touch" to Drew's 6.68.

 

[MONT17]

I love threads that combine real football with fantasy football... Its like a hooker in Vegas!!!

 

[Rack]

If Julius had the same number of rushes and catches as Drew and had the same averages he has right now, he'd have the EXACT SAME total yardage that he does right now -- 1,151. But he'd be averaging 6.73 "yards per touch" to Drew's 6.68.

Jones-Drew > JuJo. I don't need to look at any numbers, just watch them play. MJD has moves JuJo doesn't have, and MJD breaks tackles.

Edit: Adam you're a sneaky bastid. Just caught the humor in your post. Nice one.

I know, I know....they're tiring. But I was mulling over stats earlier (hey, you can't get a jump on the FF draft early enough...right?) and came upon this.

If nothing else, it's a bit surprising.

Julius Jones (5' 10")(started all 14 games):
247 rushing attempts for 1019 yds (4.1 YPC). 4 TD. Long of 77.
8 receptions for 132 (16.5 YPC). 0 TD. 3 of 20+. 0 of 40+.
3 defensive tackles (***?)

Maurice Jones-Drew (5' 7")(virtually inactive first two weeks, started 0 games):
135 rushing attempts for 764 yds (5.7 YPC). 10 TD. Long of 48.
36 receptions for 379yds (10.5 YPC). 2 TD. 5 of 20+ and 1 of 40+.
Kick Return avg of 27.6 w/ 1 TD.

Your totals work out to 1151 yards (4.5yds a touch, 255 touches) for Julius vs. 1143 (6.7yds a touch, 171 touches) for Jones-Drew.

Considering Jones-Drew isn't a starter, played in virtually two less games (minimal touches in the first tweo weeks), and is 3" shorter of Julius (and absurdly small for an NFL RB).....I thought this was shocking.

I don't consider the yds per a touch impoortant, since Jones-Drew gets far more receptions than Julius....nor are the TDs overly important since Barber scavenges most Cowboys TDs (although most Jones-Drew TDs aren't goal-line ones).

What I do deduct from these numbers...and watching both players (I'm a proud fantasy dynasty draftee of Jones-Drew and watch him quite a bit) is that while Julius is good, Jones-Drew is a better "lightning to the thunder." Fred Taylor is no thunder, so it's more lightning to 40 year old lightning with a yearly injury, but you get my point.

Looking at it all, I would say that Jones-Drew is more of the back that we here in Dallas would want to complement MBIII's "thunder." I like Julius Jones, let me make it abundantly clear that I don't have an agenda regarding him...but I thought a look at the numbers of a rookie back with a relatively similar style would offer some insight as to what some people feel is lacking in Julius' game.

That's exactly why I said the other day it would of been nice to have him splitting carries with MBIII instead of JuJo. Exactly like you said, he's more of the lightning we need to MBIII's thunder.


Besides, how freakin' cool would it be to have MJD and MBIII as our backfield?

That's two cool individual chants you can say during the game for each of them, plus when referring to both of them you can simply call them "M&M".

 

[AdamJT13]

Edit: Adam you're a sneaky *****. Just caught the humor in your post. Nice one.

I have no clue what you're talking about. All I did was cite an odd statistical coincidence.

 

[Rack]

I have no clue what you're talking about. All I did was cite an odd statistical coincidence.

Oh, I thought you said if JuJo had the same number of carries and catches as MJD with the same averages (as MJD) he'd have the same amount of yards as MJD.


Misunderstood your post.

 

[AdamJT13]

Oh, I thought you said if JuJo had the same number of carries and catches as MJD with the same averages (as MJD) he'd have the same amount of yards as MJD.


Misunderstood your post.

Sorry -- I meant that Julius with Julius' averages (4.13 yards per carry and 16.5 yards per catch) and Drew's breakdown of touches (135 rushes and 36 catches) would have the exact same total yardage that Julius does now -- 1,151. He'd just have it a different way (more than half in receiving yards).

But then, back when Julius had just 135 rushes for the season, his yards per carry was higher than it is now. And if he had more catches, his yards per catch might be lower.