Another nail in the Aint's Coffin

[burmafrd]

Supposedly the NFL has a ledger. Names dates and how much.

Vilma is going to really look even dumber then he already has.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--s...ailing-weekly-earnings-in-bounty-scandal.html

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Yea, he might look dumber but you gotta love the guy for standing up to Goodell. Im sure he has earned the respect of most of his peers for doing this.

 

[Hoofbite]

Yea, he might look dumber but you gotta love the guy for standing up to Goodell. Im sure he has earned the respect of most of his peers for doing this.

Standing up against what, a fitting punishment?

 

[Chopzley]

Yea, SO fitting.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Standing up against what, a fitting punishment?

He's not playing their game nor is he bending over for Goodell.

I dont blame him. If they dont want to show him the "evidence" why should he make anything easier for them? They are not his friends, and at this point they are viewed as the enemy.

Personally, I like it!

How do we know the punishment is fitting?

Was the salary cap penalty for the Boys and Foreskins fitting?

 

[Muhast]

Yea, SO fitting.

If your the NFL and are pushing for a safer league due to all of the concussion issues, what punishment would see as fitting for players paying to hurt other players? They weren't doing a pot for interceptions or sacks, they were paying to head hunt. If your hoping for a cleaner league, with less malicious hits, you HAVE to punish people for intentionally hurting other players.

 

[burmafrd]

He's not playing their game nor is he bending over for Goodell.

I dont blame him. If they dont want to show him the "evidence" why should he make anything easier for them? They are not his friends, and at this point they are viewed as the enemy.

Personally, I like it!

How do we know the punishment is fitting?

Was the salary cap penalty for the Boys and Foreskins fitting?

You sound like someone who was cheering when OJ was found innocent.

 

[burmafrd]

If your the NFL and are pushing for a safer league due to all of the concussion issues, what punishment would see as fitting for players paying to hurt other players? They weren't doing a pot for interceptions or sacks, they were paying to head hunt. If your hoping for a cleaner league, with less malicious hits, you HAVE to punish people for intentionally hurting other players.

amazing how many do not get it

But then with the state of schools in this day and age education and judgement is something rare anymore

 

[Hoofbite]

He's not playing their game nor is he bending over for Goodell.

I dont blame him. If they dont want to show him the "evidence" why should he make anything easier for them? They are not his friends, and at this point they are viewed as the enemy.

Personally, I like it!

How do we know the punishment is fitting?

They don't have to show him evidence. The commissioner can discipline as he sees fit.

He's free to appeal all he wants but he knows damn well that evidence will come out during a closed appeal and he'll be laughed at for wasting everyone's time.

He's simply playing a media game because he thinks, for whatever reason, that he can appeal enough to get the league to show what they have against him. Sadly for him, the league doesn't have do anything close to that.

Was the salary cap penalty for the Boys and Foreskins fitting?

You're asking the wrong guy about this topic.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I'm sorry, but I love this story...it keeps getting better and better.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

You sound like someone who was cheering when OJ was found innocent.

Cheering? No.

But as I watched that trial unfold I was not at all upset with the verdict because the prosecution never proved their case. Everybody I knew told me I was crazy when halfway through the trial I said the prosecution is not proving their case. At the time I had a job where the TV was on all the time and I was able to watch much of the trial, while most just based their opinion on soundbites and news shows.

The prosecution team was pretty incompetent and I still find it hard to believe that team of prosecutors was the best they could come up with. Incompetence never wins.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

They don't have to show him evidence. The commissioner can discipline as he sees fit.

He's free to appeal all he wants but he knows damn well that evidence will come out during a closed appeal and he'll be laughed at for wasting everyone's time.

He's simply playing a media game because he thinks, for whatever reason, that he can appeal enough to get the league to show what they have against him. Sadly for him, the league doesn't have do anything close to that.



You're asking the wrong guy about this topic.

I know the commish can do as he sees fit - and that is one of the biggest complaints people have had about him. I'm no Saints fan but I'm still happy to see that somebody isnt rolling over for him just becuz he is the commish.

Actually, I'm surprised more Cowboys fans - after the salary cap penalty - aren't happy to see Vilma doing this.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I wonder if we have seen the last of the punishment being handed out by Goodell.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'm glad Vilma is standing up to him too.

This way if something like this is true they can smack him even harder for being dumber than first believed and I can laugh even more about it.

 

[Hoofbite]

I know the commish can do as he sees fit - and that is one of the biggest complaints people have had about him. I'm no Saints fan but I'm still happy to see that somebody isnt rolling over for him just becuz he is the commish.

His punishments have come at the request of the players.

When he was first given the job he met with a bunch of players, Witten included, and they asked him to clean up the league.

That's exactly what he is doing here and somehow people are supposed to be pissed that he's following through.

Actually, I'm surprised more Cowboys fans - after the salary cap penalty - aren't happy to see Vilma doing this.

Why's that? Even for those who are 100% pissed at the salary cap penalty, what sense does it make to get pissed when seeing legitimate punishments handed out for legitimate offenses?

Don't tell me you are advocating that people question every single move the guy makes now regardless of legitimacy because they feel he has wronged their favorite team.

That's completely irrational and dishonest as all hell.

 

[ShiningStar]

If your the NFL and are pushing for a safer league due to all of the concussion issues, what punishment would see as fitting for players paying to hurt other players? They weren't doing a pot for interceptions or sacks, they were paying to head hunt. If your hoping for a cleaner league, with less malicious hits, you HAVE to punish people for intentionally hurting other players.

u just might as well quit the game, pass all the rules u want someone is going to get hurt,. u draft and pay des based on their skill of getting to the qb, not taking him out for a date, and you hit players hard, fans dont scream technique they scream "bring the wood" so dont grab a morale high ground now.

U are intentionlly sending guys out there to take down another guy. however u want to word it, at the end of the day thats their job.

 

[silverbear]

Supposedly the NFL has a ledger. Names dates and how much.

Vilma is going to really look even dumber then he already has.

So much for those who insinuated that Goodell had no real evidence on them...

One wonders if the NFLPA will change its position if and when the bonafides of this ledge are established... up to a point, you understand them siding with the players, even advocating for them... but if indisputable evidence of their guilt becomes public, then shouldn't they be advocating for player safety?? And wouldn't that mean taking a stand against the Aints and those players??

The union is about to find itself smack between a rock and a hard place, I think...

 

[silverbear]

He's not playing their game nor is he bending over for Goodell.

I dont blame him.

I do, for being stupid... he knows exactly what he did, and he should be bright enough to know that Goodell wouldn't have laid the heaviest punishment on him if he didn't have some pretty clear evidence that he was the most egregious offender...

He probably should have been bright enough to figure out exactly what that evidence was, I doubt that ledger is a surprise to him...

If they dont want to show him the "evidence" why should he make anything easier for them? They are not his friends, and at this point they are viewed as the enemy.

Uhhh, because he's pissing away money on lawyers, when he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning??

Personally, I like it!

Which suggests that you're about as bright as Vilma is...

How do we know the punishment is fitting?

What would you consider a fitting punishment for paying teammates to injure opponents?? Personally, I think he got off light...

Oh wait, you're still telling yourself that Goodell judged these players guilty with no evidence to suggest they were, aren't you?? Perhaps you should ask yourself why he'd want to do that; do you think he has some kind of vendetta against the Saints??

One of these days, with any luck, you'll wake up and realize your defending the wrong guys here... you're on the wrong side of this one, siding with the slimeballs...

 

[silverbear]

I know the commish can do as he sees fit - and that is one of the biggest complaints people have had about him. I'm no Saints fan but I'm still happy to see that somebody isnt rolling over for him just becuz he is the commish.

Actually, I'm surprised more Cowboys fans - after the salary cap penalty - aren't happy to see Vilma doing this.

Equating the two situations is beyond idiotic... any real FOOTBALL fan has to condemn what the Saints did... football is a violent game, but it's not meant to be a thuggish game... there is no sportsmanship in deliberately attempting to injure opponents... to the contrary, it suggests you're afraid you can't win if that player plays the whole game against you... it's just gutless...

Vilma is a gutless punk, apparently the ringleader of a band of gutless punks... they don't deserve to be defended, but go right ahead, side with the punks...

 

[silverbear]

His punishments have come at the request of the players.

When he was first given the job he met with a bunch of players, Witten included, and they asked him to clean up the league.

That's exactly what he is doing here and somehow people are supposed to be pissed that he's following through.



Why's that? Even for those who are 100% pissed at the salary cap penalty, what sense does it make to get pissed when seeing legitimate punishments handed out for legitimate offenses?

Don't tell me you are advocating that people question every single move the guy makes now regardless of legitimacy because they feel he has wronged their favorite team.

That's completely irrational and dishonest as all hell.

It should be noted that the man responsible for the cap penalties was John Mara, not Roger Goodell... but some in here just have a knee-jerk reaction whenever the league does anything, the blame falls entirely on Goodell...

I can say with honesty that I would never associate myself with anybody who would defend Jonathan Vilma in real life... to me, that would demonstrate an utter lack of character, of integrity...