Another QB scenario...

[CowboyWay]

I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but there is another QB scenario that is highly probable, especially knowing Jerry...

Granted.... you always need a trade partner....but it is right up Jerry's alley to trade out of the 4th pick, still get a player much in need in the first round (Jaylon Smith who will fall because of injury, or Nekediche who will fall because he's a nutjob). Or a myriad of other players.

He will have to recieve next years first rounder of course, and take those two first rounders for next year, and package them up to trade for any qb coming out next year.

He helps the team this year....and has the picks for next year if he likes a qb coming out.

It also helps buy him one less year of having a backup quarterback while he's paying Romo big money and gives him one more year to evaluate the new QB before he has to decide to sign him for a big contract in free agency.

It makes sense. Jerry makes his splash this year, and could potentially make a monster splash next year.

 

[reddyuta]

I frankly don't see any QB coming out next year better than this year's crop, in fact it could be much worse.

 

[IAmLegend]

Brad Kaaya is the only QB in next year's class that I'm even remotely interested in at this point, and there's no guarantee he comes out, or that we'd be in position to draft him.

I'm almost certain that Jerry and Co draft a QB this year. The question is a matter of when.

 

[CowboyWay]

Brad Kaaya is the only QB in next year's class that I'm even remotely interested in at this point, and there's no guarantee he comes out, or that we'd be in position to draft him.

I'm almost positive that Jerry and Co draft a QB this year. The question is a matter of when.

Yeah, but this stuff happens every year. Next year doesn't look great......but then all of a sudden after the college season ends, there are plenty of viable options. Not to mention if you are right....and nobody worthy is there..... you can always trade out of one of those picks for a #1 the next year and do it all over again. Jerry is a horsetrading gamber, if he is nothing else.

 

[reddyuta]

Brad Kaaya is the only QB in next year's class that I'm even remotely interested in at this point, and there's no guarantee he comes out, or that we'd be in position to draft him.

I'm almost certain that Jerry and Co draft a QB this year. The question is a matter of when.

That guy looks so hot and cold, it may be his oline but he needs to improve a lot.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

That's why I think it's crazy people don't want a QB this draft. Sure, the talent isn't as great as other years, but we have the ability to get one of the top 2 QBs in the entire draft. Not only are the following drafts projected to be worse at QB than this one, but we'll most likely be picking much later so we'll have to settle for a much lower prospect. I understand that the draft is a crap shoot, especially at QB, but you have to position yourself to get the best possible prospect and hope that he can become your franchise QB. The Luck/RG3/Wilson class was considered the greatest of the modern era, and the #2 overall pick (RG3) is available for practically free now. So even a top pick in a great draft class isn't a guarantee. But you still have to go out and try to get the best QB you can get. It's always gonna be a gamble but sometimes the odds will be much more in your favor.

 

[waving monkey]

It's going to be a long season

 

[darthseinfeld]

I frankly don't see any QB coming out next year better than this year's crop, in fact it could be much worse.

Much much worse

 

[texbumthelife]

I frankly don't see any QB coming out next year better than this year's crop, in fact it could be much worse.

Deshaun Watson is worlds better than anything coming out this season. It's like no one on the board has heard of the kid--the only QB Heisman finalist in 2015. He is not being mentioned in any of the threads here for 2017 draft class.

Passing: 68.2% completions. 3704 yards. 31/12 TD/Int
Rushing: 187/1032 attempts/yards 12 TD

 

[reddyuta]

Deshaun Watson is worlds better than anything coming out this season. It's like no one on the board has heard of the kid--the only QB Heisman finalist in 2015. He is not being mentioned in any of the threads here for 2017 draft class.

Passing: 68.2% completions. 3704 yards. 31/12 TD/Int
Rushing: 187/1032 attempts/yards 12 TD

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/vince-young-1.html

I am not saying he is Vince young but i am wary of dual threat QBs,lets see how he does next season.HE could be the next Cam newton or another vince young.

 

[texbumthelife]

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/vince-young-1.html

I am not saying he is Vince young but i am wary of dual threat QBs,lets see how he does next season.HE could be the next Cam newton or another vince young.

Every guy in every draft could be the next (insert bust here). Kind of a ridiculous way to go about evaluating guys. Tell me who you want at number four and I will give you multiple busts at the position.

Watson's passing stats are equal to, or better than all the guys at the top of this years draft, with the exception of maybe Goff, but you're discrediting him because he has another dimension to his game? That just makes absolutely no sense.

I understand being weary of a guy who is predominantly a runner, but Watson's passing stats are equally, if not more impressive. He has great mechanics and foot work, unlike Young.

No matter how you slice it, unless he has a huge Junior slump next season, he is hands down the best QB prospect if he comes out. Hell, he would have been the best prospect if he could have come out this year.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I frankly don't see any QB coming out next year better than this year's crop, in fact it could be much worse.

Exactly...........there is nobody in next year's draft class that would be considered a better prospect than Goff this year. Most scouts are saying that as a pure passer (accuracy and ball placement), that he is the best QB since Andrew Luck.

There is virtually no way you can pass on him if he is on the board at pick 4.

 

[KB1122]

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/vince-young-1.html

I am not saying he is Vince young but i am wary of dual threat QBs,lets see how he does next season.HE could be the next Cam newton or another vince young.

Yeahm I hate winning the NFC, too.

 

[reddyuta]

Yeahm I hate winning the NFC, too.

I am a huge Cam fan,please read my post again.

 

[JW82]

I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but there is another QB scenario that is highly probable, especially knowing Jerry...

Granted.... you always need a trade partner....but it is right up Jerry's alley to trade out of the 4th pick, still get a player much in need in the first round (Jaylon Smith who will fall because of injury, or Nekediche who will fall because he's a nutjob). Or a myriad of other players.

He will have to recieve next years first rounder of course, and take those two first rounders for next year, and package them up to trade for any qb coming out next year.

He helps the team this year....and has the picks for next year if he likes a qb coming out.

It also helps buy him one less year of having a backup quarterback while he's paying Romo big money and gives him one more year to evaluate the new QB before he has to decide to sign him for a big contract in free agency.

It makes sense. Jerry makes his splash this year, and could potentially make a monster splash next year.

so we not only do NOT get a QB this year when we need it, we get a LB going in for ACL and MCL surgery? Let me think it over....

 

[visionary]

Every guy in every draft could be the next (insert bust here). Kind of a ridiculous way to go about evaluating guys. Tell me who you want at number four and I will give you multiple busts at the position.

Watson's passing stats are equal to, or better than all the guys at the top of this years draft, with the exception of maybe Goff, but you're discrediting him because he has another dimension to his game? That just makes absolutely no sense.

I understand being weary of a guy who is predominantly a runner, but Watson's passing stats are equally, if not more impressive. He has great mechanics and foot work, unlike Young.

No matter how you slice it, unless he has a huge Junior slump next season, he is hands down the best QB prospect if he comes out. Hell, he would have been the best prospect if he could have come out this year.

What you say be true but I will say 2 things:

1. A LOT can change in 1 year. We have all seen college QBs touted as great after 1 year but that turned out not to be the case

2. If he does turn out to be that great it is extremely unlikely whoever has the number 1 pick will give it up so we are unlikely to have a shot at him

This year we know what we can get
I'm on board with getting goff or Lynch if the scouts sign off on it

 

[texbumthelife]

What you say be true but I will say 2 things:

1. A LOT can change in 1 year. We have all seen college QBs touted as great after 1 year but that turned out not to be the case

2. If he does turn out to be that great it is extremely unlikely whoever has the number 1 pick will give it up so we are unlikely to have a shot at him

This year we know what we can get
I'm on board with getting goff or Lynch if the scouts sign off on it

None of that was the argument though. The argument was about there being no QB talent in next years draft, or it being more weak than this years. I think both arguments are ridiculous. Next year could have Watson, Mayfield, Kelly, Kayaa as the top four who could all be better than Goff and Lynch. All four of those guys could get first round grades. Clearly I can't predict what will happen next season, let alone in next years draft, but based on those players productions this year, next years QB class actually looks exceedingly more talented than this years.

As for your "great for one year" comment, what do you call Lynch? He didn't have a bad year in 2014, but he wasn't on anyone's radar. He shot up boards this season essentially out of nowhere.

I get your argument and I agree with it, to a certain extent. I am simply discussing the talent available next season is all. I don't personally think there is a top five pick worthy QB in this draft, but I appear to be alone in that regard.

 

[bsbellomy]

None of that was the argument though. The argument was about there being no QB talent in next years draft, or it being more weak than this years. I think both arguments are ridiculous. Next year could have Watson, Mayfield, Kelly, Kayaa as the top four who could all be better than Goff and Lynch. All four of those guys could get first round grades. Clearly I can't predict what will happen next season, let alone in next years draft, but based on those players productions this year, next years QB class actually looks exceedingly more talented than this years.

As for your "great for one year" comment, what do you call Lynch? He didn't have a bad year in 2014, but he wasn't on anyone's radar. He shot up boards this season essentially out of nowhere.

I get your argument and I agree with it, to a certain extent. I am simply discussing the talent available next season is all. I don't personally think there is a top five pick worthy QB in this draft, but I appear to be alone in that regard.

BS, Watson and Mayfield strengths are their running ability. That doesn't fly in the NFL. And how the heck are you high on Kayaa? I watched the bowl game and he looked like garbage, Falk was way better and he wasn't even that good either. At least he was coming off an injury.

 

[Direwolf63]

None of that was the argument though. The argument was about there being no QB talent in next years draft, or it being more weak than this years. I think both arguments are ridiculous. Next year could have Watson, Mayfield, Kelly, Kayaa as the top four who could all be better than Goff and Lynch. All four of those guys could get first round grades. Clearly I can't predict what will happen next season, let alone in next years draft, but based on those players productions this year, next years QB class actually looks exceedingly more talented than this years.

As for your "great for one year" comment, what do you call Lynch? He didn't have a bad year in 2014, but he wasn't on anyone's radar. He shot up boards this season essentially out of nowhere.

I get your argument and I agree with it, to a certain extent. I am simply discussing the talent available next season is all. I don't personally think there is a top five pick worthy QB in this draft, but I appear to be alone in that regard.

Assuming these QB's turn out as good as you say, and assuming the Cowboys have better year in 2016, then the Cowboys likely will not be in position to draft any of these guys. But they are in position to draft a top QB this year. That's why they need to draft Goff or Lynch this year, assuming the scouts sign off on it.

 

[texbumthelife]

Assuming these QB's turn out as good as you say, and assuming the Cowboys have better year in 2016, then the Cowboys likely will not be in position to draft any of these guys. But they are in position to draft a top QB this year. That's why they need to draft Goff or Lynch this year, assuming the scouts sign off on it.

Once again, that wasn't the argument... *Sigh*... Read the thread.

All I was arguing was the talent in 2017 could actually be better than this year at the quarterback position. My argument had absolutely nothing to do with whether or not we should take a guy this year, in light of next year.