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Well I would think BP & JJ would have learned their lesson after this season.
 

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Cowboy_love_4ever said:
One kick, could ruin a season. Let that soak in Jerry/Parcells.

...together a stat of the season of misses for kickers, but this year in my recent memory seems to be one of the worst.
 

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Cbz40 said:
Well I would think BP & JJ would have learned their lesson after this season.

...be fair to Mike though, it was 46 yards. Some of the Dallas kicks were under 35 yards - those are real hard lessons to swallow.
 

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davidyee said:
...be fair to Mike though, it was 46 yards. Some of the Dallas kicks were under 35 yards - those are real hard lessons to swallow.


True.......as you said it's been a very bad year for kickers.
 

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BigDFan5 said:
Mike V is the most accurate kicker in NFL History

... My post is in reply to all the posts clamouring for an accurate kicker. I think Vanderjagt's % speaks for itself.

The kicker isn't the only solution as shown by Vinatieri's miss yesterday. Please refer to my contributions to the post about Steve Hoffman.
 

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davidyee said:
... My post is in reply to all the posts clamouring for an accurate kicker. I think Vanderjagt's % speaks for itself.

The kicker isn't the only solution as shown by Vinatieri's miss yesterday. Please refer to my contributions to the post about Steve Hoffman.


So Steve Hoffman could of saved Mike V? lol
 

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Its funny how FGs have been becoming so interesting. They used to be about atomatic.
 

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BigDFan5 said:
So Steve Hoffman could of saved Mike V? lol

...who may be beyond Steve's expertise, but it doesn't mean a good special teams coach who focuses on the mental aspect of the kicking game couldn't help him focus.
 

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davidyee said:
...who may be beyond Steve's expertise, but it doesn't mean a good special teams coach who focuses on the mental aspect of the kicking game couldn't help him focus.

He is the most accurate kicker in NFL HISTORY lol I say he has done pretty good for himself. he missed a 46 yard kick. Its not like he missed a chipshot
 

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BigDFan5 said:
He is the most accurate kicker in NFL HISTORY lol I say he has done pretty good for himself. he missed a 46 yard kick. Its not like he missed a chipshot

...the kick, he really missed contact on the ball. It's not like it just missed, he really missed. The pressure got to him and he mi**** the ball. All purely focus.
 

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davidyee said:
...the kick, he really missed contact on the ball. It's not like it just missed, he really missed. The pressure got to him and he mi**** the ball. All purely focus.


So he was able to focuse on every kick this year except this one, So he needs a kicking coach? He is the most accurate kicker in the NFL, he missed. He will get past it and back to hitting 90% next year
 

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BigDFan5 said:
So he was able to focuse on every kick this year except this one, So he needs a kicking coach? He is the most accurate kicker in the NFL, he missed. He will get past it and back to hitting 90% next year

...the 90%, the real point is how to mitigate the 10% when you need it the most.

There's one thing about missing a 46 yard FG in the first quarter of week three and another thing to miss a FG in the divisional semi final with 11 seconds left in the game.

Focus is what that is all about. Focus isn't about the easy one or garbage time or games angainst 10 point underdogs. Focus is about this past situation with their playoff lives on the line. There is a time for the very best effort one can give and I would argue this game was it. With a week three miss you can still take your 90% after that and fight to get to the playoffs.

With a divisional semi final miss with 11 seconds left, it's all over.

I think you misunderstand coaching in sports. It's not all rah, rah, rah. I had a kicking coach who once took a pen and drew a dot on the top of my kicking foot just before a kick. He didn't say anything, but he was trying to give me something to focus on - the point of impact on my foot to ensure consistent contact. Oddly enough the one thing I think Vanderjagt didn't get on this kick.

The saem coach on another occasion just before my kick came over to me and started talking to me about what I wanted to do for my upcoming spring break to stop me from focusing so much on my mechanics.

He was there just to take the temp of my mental state and help me readjust if necessary. If you wonder why, then you've never been on the sidelines before. When a kick is on that's crucial, you have no friends on the team. They walk away from you and avoid you like the plague before the kick as if you don't exist.

The pressure is tremendous. When you make the kick they come a running as if you are the president of the United States if you miss they want nothing to do with you as if you are a leper.

It's not the ideal situation for consistent success.
 
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