Another Year Of Absolutely No Depth

BigD_95 said:
I mostly agree with what you wrote besides this : "OT...i think steele,knight and nsheke give us better depth than some think."

what have you seen from any of them to think its better than what we have seen? They have all been awful. I was actually hoping drafting Ball would have helped but obviously he isnt stepping up.
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balls been hurt.
steele...coming in as a udfa and beating out vets for his spot...was a bright spot in a crap season last year.
as the season went on...i thought he played much better.
and from what i've seen...he looks better than last season.
love his size and to my eyes moves well.
going forward,i think he has a chance to continue to develop into a good pro.
nsheke is a vet who played well when called on in buffalo.
if that happens here...i think he'll handle business.
the nebraska rookie has looked good.
mcgovern has played well.
i think the oline depth is better than others think.
none of them are tyron zack or la'el.
but they dont need to be.
just my opinion.
hopefully we wont have to find out.
if im wrong,i'll own it.
 
I don't usually deal in absolutes, this post is no exception. While I get it, depth is an issue and has been since the 90's SB teams, can we be realistic?
NO depth at running back? I guess Pollard isn't the same Pollard who some here wanted to start ahead of Zeke?
NO depth at receiver? Hmm, Cooper, Gallup and Lamb to start, so Wilson and Brown are trash?
NO depth at defensive end? Let's see, Lawrence and Gregory to start, then Armstrong, Anae, Carter, Watkins, Urban and Basham should all be cut, they're no good at all obviously.
NO depth at guard? Martin and Williams, after that I thought we had McGovern and I guess we know the rookie Farniok is no good, 4 preseason games is surely enough time to judge him, right?
NO depth at linebacker? Smith, LVE and Parsons, but seemed to me Cox is showing something, guess I was seeing things, and Neal and Gifford were spirited away by a UFO.

Depth is an issue, no doubt, but it's not a question of NO depth, there is some question of how much QUALITY depth there is, but we have depth, and some of the depth guys just got here, they may be quality depth, or maybe not, but it's too early to tell.
 
yet 70% of the players who played yesterday wont be here in any way not even on the PS...i cant get over how clueless some of you are..

seriously,

first off they played all their starters and for long while against our 2 AND 3S and then their 2s against our 3s and 4s..they literally used this game as their tune-up while we didn't paly any starters and used backup coordinators to call the game , this was a glorified practice for us while they were trying to gain some confidence by beating up on our practice squad and backup coaching staff..

to the rest of you complaining about our lack of depth...
curious how long have you been watching sports?

you do realize that these players we call our backups and some 3rd on the depth chart

1. should they ever be called upon they will be sprinkled in with our STASRTERS so its not like they will be all paying together at once like in PS..if you play the backups here and there you cover up their flaws with the play around them..

2.if the time comes like last season when the depth is down to 3 with 4 qbs and so many injuries you are playing backup team, lower the dang expectations no team can overcome that..

you all keep crying for depth like there s not drop off , its always drop off you just hope to not need so many that it becomes too many holes to patch and the dam breaks..

that what happened in 2020 and no coach or team can overcome it. proof look at the most inured teams last year not one finished 500 or above..not one

everyone's depth is lacking.

outside of backup qb which well if they are needed for more then game or two seasons is most likely in jeopardy.

i agree our is lacking there but we have the best depth ive seen in quite awhile if you look at them as individuals who all play alongside or starters in spot duty,..not 11 of them all on the field at once..

BTW on my last soap box rant the roster is hardly set not even close to game 1 43 decided on, let alone 53 and 10 for the PS..there's lots of time to change backup QB and maybe add a DT or two to make up for injuries' the last two games..

so calm down!! jeez Louise the overactions here is lie the world has ended..this is football you all will be ok and lets see them actual play season and then cry about the misfortunes, not before they happen..
 
LACowboysFan1 said:
I don't usually deal in absolutes, this post is no exception. While I get it, depth is an issue and has been since the 90's SB teams, can we be realistic?
NO depth at running back? I guess Pollard isn't the same Pollard who some here wanted to start ahead of Zeke?
NO depth at receiver? Hmm, Cooper, Gallup and Lamb to start, so Wilson and Brown are trash?
NO depth at defensive end? Let's see, Lawrence and Gregory to start, then Armstrong, Anae, Carter, Watkins, Urban and Basham should all be cut, they're no good at all obviously.
NO depth at guard? Martin and Williams, after that I thought we had McGovern and I guess we know the rookie Farniok is no good, 4 preseason games is surely enough time to judge him, right?
NO depth at linebacker? Smith, LVE and Parsons, but seemed to me Cox is showing something, guess I was seeing things, and Neal and Gifford were spirited away by a UFO.

Depth is an issue, no doubt, but it's not a question of NO depth, there is some question of how much QUALITY depth there is, but we have depth, and some of the depth guys just got here, they may be quality depth, or maybe not, but it's too early to tell.
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so many fans use concrete words like absolutely non never or always and back themselves into a corner with emotional statements..smh

i agree we have solid depth with few exceptions and as I've been saying teams all have this issues , fans think we are supposed to have two teams 1 a and 12 b and cover up the injuries' like we had last year, its seldom done..all the teams last season with the injury bug similar to ours all under 500 , period even the best coaches couldn't overcome it..there arent enough quality players to have no drop off at backup and not enough money with cap to even do that like they did pre 1995..those days are over..

the chiefs how come they couldn't overcome losing 2-3 OL in the playoffs why did they have depth..they did want enough to fill those holes especially against a great team..chit happens people grow up be sensible use common sense, i know thats a lot to ask but hey give it a whirl..
 
Blackspider214 said:
NFL seasons always have injuries. Having depth is a good idea. But yet again, we have no depth. Our #2 QB is horrendous. OL depth is nonexistent. Which is a huge issue because Collins is getting hurt this offseason. And we all know Tyron will go down and most likely Maetin. And on the defense, the secondary depth is bad. Really no depth on that side of the ball at all. Another year of expecting the starters to stay on the field all year to have any chance to win.

The term "next man up" spells disaster.

But this is no surprising if you follow the drafts year and year. So much wasted junk, especially 2nd round picks.
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yup the oline depth is absurd. After watching last season, with me and you as the starting tackles, they felt no need to address that spot with a quality player is mindless.
 
4GET depth, we aren't even good enough on 1st string. Case and ^ is DT. We are lookin at going into Tampa with a free agent DT no one wanted(WATKINS) and a 6th rd guy STARTING. Tampa will test us early and often on the ground. This may get ugly unless we fix this stat.
 
Before we disparage the depth, keep in mind the number of reserve players is likely less than you think and certainly less than what you see in preseason. For instance, last year, they had nine offensive linemen total on their opening day roster not counting La’el Collins. If we assume a similar number this year, once we’re past the starters, the top two reserves are probably McGovern and Ty Nsekhe, both of whom are highly regarded. Then you get to Farniok (probably) and one or two developmental prospects. The depth is neither as poor or robust as you think it is.

One you get to the number of injuries they had last year, everyone is competing for the same street free agents because anyone who showed any potential in preseason is already on a roster somewhere.
 
I am ok with RT, if Collins goes down, I believe they would move Zack out to RT with McGovern at RG, but LT, who knows. I guess they could do the same with Zack, but that's a big ask for even the future HOFer. Of course both of these plans rely on and aging Zack to never get dinged up.
 
Blackspider214 said:
NFL seasons always have injuries. Having depth is a good idea. But yet again, we have no depth. Our #2 QB is horrendous. OL depth is nonexistent. Which is a huge issue because Collins is getting hurt this offseason. And we all know Tyron will go down and most likely Maetin. And on the defense, the secondary depth is bad. Really no depth on that side of the ball at all. Another year of expecting the starters to stay on the field all year to have any chance to win.

The term "next man up" spells disaster.

But this is no surprising if you follow the drafts year and year. So much wasted junk, especially 2nd round picks.
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We have more depth this year than we've had in many years. Most of those players yesterday that played will not be on the roster opening day.
 
silver said:
Looking at the video of the War Room Stories you can tell the problem lies at the top. Too much ego involved, too much emotional investment for Jerry and now Stephen to get out of the way. These guys enjoy playing manager too much to relinquish the role. Having won the Switzer superbowl was the worst thing that could've happen to the franchise. It empowered Jerry to think there was nothing hard in running a successful NFL franchise. We've been spinning our wheels ever since.
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Switzer never won the "superbowl". He won the Super Bowl... two words.
 
cowboyec said:
we'll see.

QB...behind Dak is crap.
RB..i like whats behind zeke.
WR...5 deep...maybe 6....like it.
TE...schultz and a healthty mckeon give us good depth there.
OT...i think steele,knight and nsheke give us better depth than some think.
OG...martin williams mcgovern farnoik...i like whats there....the cornhusker has looked good.
C...behind biadasz....makes me nervous.

DE...like it.
DT...like it.
LB....5 or 6 deep...excited about parsons and cox...gifford has managed to stay healthy so far and has played well.
CB...behind diggs...i like what i've seen from wright and canady.
joseph...like the potential.
S...we'll see.

so i dont think its fair to say we have no depth at all.
problem spots to me are..QB2...C2...S.

but you wont get an answer til they are called on.
thats when you'll find out what you have.
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I think the depth is ok actually except for QB and OL. DT is not good at any level so that doesn’t count. OL is tough because the drop off from Smith, Collins and Martin is HUGE.
 
iRepDatStar said:
so theres no depth at RB..WR ..CB.. and LB? Also you guys are awfully worried about QB2.. what did QB2 do for dallas last year? Just like any other team if QB1 goes down for anyone in the league.. its most likely over for them. Dak breaks his leg now everyone is scared, before his leg injury a lot of yall were even calling for the coaches to run him more.
-----Just like any other team if QB1 goes down for anyone in the league.. its most likely over for them.

Thank you!!!!!!!
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Most teams don't have depth. But I'm mostly watching the Cowboys and thus what I've seen of them. They can lose one guy any where on offense and it's nearly over. Dak, Zeke or any key one O-lineman. Have people forgot what happened when we lost Smith? And sadly a lot of this is really caused by these puppet coaches not able to coach once their meal ticket goes down.
 
QB and CB - those are the two limited in depth on this roster. CB might not be too bad either if the young guys can step up quickly.

The injuries last year helped in getting your Oline some experience and the depth there is better than many teams around the league.

So basically it's no depth at QB - which is the case for a lot of teams around the league. Would have loved to get Minshew for a 6th...not sure why we sat by and watched that transaction go. Would have shored up the back up QB for this year and next - plus might get a comp pick in 2023 if he signed for a decent contract.

Personally I would draft a QB ever other year at the very least - 5th-7th rounder. Too much value in a rookie QB contract that can show they can play - either in pre-season or if your starter goes out.
 
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