Antitrust Hearing Post 2pm CDT Break Updates *Hearing Complete*

[WoodysGirl]

New thread for the post 2pm break updates...

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SportsLawGuy Gabe Feldman by SBJLizMullen
Judge Nelson focused on key question- would labor exemption even apply to a lockout post-decert?

usatoday_nfl USA TODAY NFL team
After break, NFL attorney David Boies told Judge Nelson she simply doesn't have the authority to issue an injunction to stop lockout ...

... in any case involving or growing out of a labor dispute." (End Boies statement)

nflnetwork NFL Network
#NFLNetworkNow: Check out the latest news from the NFL, including a labor update from @AlbertBreer: http://******/dLpmIt

darrenrovell darren rovell
The NFL is getting slammed today by the judge. Even still, I'm in awe from watching David Boies be as good as he is.

 

[peplaw06]

SportsLawGuy Gabe Feldman by SBJLizMullen
Judge Nelson focused on key question- would labor exemption even apply to a lockout post-decert?

usatoday_nfl USA TODAY NFL team
After break, NFL attorney David Boies told Judge Nelson she simply doesn't have the authority to issue an injunction to stop lockout ...

... in any case involving or growing out of a labor dispute." (End Boies statement)

That's not a good idea.

 

[theogt]

I'm getting confused about which breaks happened when.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I'm getting confused about which breaks happened when.

This is after the 1pm break. I'll add that to the thread title

 

[YosemiteSam]

That's not a good idea.

Ha! We agree on something! :laugh2:

Though I think the post was hyperbole by the media based on his argument.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Keep poking the bull NFL.. see what happens.

 

[WoodysGirl]

SBJLizMullen Liz Mullen
Legal expert about tweets coming outta NFL Lockout Hearing: Can't tell anything based on # of questions. "Oral arguments can be deceptive."


ProFootballTalk ProFootballTalk
@SBJLizMullen . . . In my experience, the side that gets asked the most questions is always the side that's in the most trouble.

darrenrovell darren rovell
David Boies is so good he could talk a horse out of eating hay. But this judge seems pretty set on siding w/the players.

AlbertBreer Albert Breer
NFL outside counsel David Boies just went another 55 minutes before Nelson. That gives him almost three hours for the day.

 

[WoodysGirl]

AlbertBreer Albert Breer
NFLPA outside counsel Jim Quinn calls for quick ruling, injunction, and end to the lockout due to "incredible irreparable harm" in rebuttal.

usatoday_nfl USA TODAY NFL team
From court: Judge Nelson cast doubt on the NFL's argument that the players' decertification as a union is a sham or negotiating ploy

... "These folks can disclaim if they want, can't they," Nelson said. "It's a big risk on their part. They risk a lot by doing it."

... Nelson also said there are potential consequences if she declines to issue an injunction stopping the lockout. ...

... "You would be free to lock them out forevermore," Nelson said. "It could be years from now." Complete wrapup: http://******/evV6ZR

 

[edmon]

New thread for the post 2pm break updates...

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SportsLawGuy Gabe Feldman by SBJLizMullen
Judge Nelson focused on key question- would labor exemption even apply to a lockout post-decert?

usatoday_nfl USA TODAY NFL team
After break, NFL attorney David Boies told Judge Nelson she simply doesn't have the authority to issue an injunction to stop lockout ...

... in any case involving or growing out of a labor dispute." (End Boies statement)

nflnetwork NFL Network
#NFLNetworkNow: Check out the latest news from the NFL, including a labor update from @AlbertBreer: http://******/dLpmIt

darrenrovell darren rovell
The NFL is getting slammed today by the judge. Even still, I'm in awe from watching David Boies be as good as he is.

This sounds more like positioning for an appeal rather than argueing for a judgement.

 

[theogt]

AlbertBreer Albert Breer
NFLPA outside counsel Jim Quinn calls for quick ruling, injunction, and end to the lockout due to "incredible irreparable harm" in rebuttal.

usatoday_nfl USA TODAY NFL team
From court: Judge Nelson cast doubt on the NFL's argument that the players' decertification as a union is a sham or negotiating ploy

... "These folks can disclaim if they want, can't they," Nelson said. "It's a big risk on their part. They risk a lot by doing it."

... Nelson also said there are potential consequences if she declines to issue an injunction stopping the lockout. ...

... "You would be free to lock them out forevermore," Nelson said. "It could be years from now." Complete wrapup: http://******/evV6ZR

 

[DallasEast]

This sounds more like positioning for an appeal rather than argueing for a judgement.

That's my opinion as well.

 

[casmith07]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say there will be no football this year.

That's my prediction.

 

[YosemiteSam]

This sounds more like positioning for an appeal rather than argueing for a judgement.

He is arguing the Norris/LaGuardia Act could prevent her from issuing a ruling on the injunction. If she can't rule on it, then there would be no appeal. (although if she did, they could use it as grounds for an appeal)

 

[WoodysGirl]

PFT: Judge Nelson could be trying to soften up the league for settlement talks

Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2011, 4:10 PM EDT

Like many of you, we’ve been monitoring today’s developments in Minnesota federal court via Twitter.

By most accounts, Judge Susan Nelson peppered NFL counsel David Boies with questions, while asking far fewer of his counterpart, Jim Quinn.

(Curiously, the players opted to put Jeffrey Kessler on the sidelines. It possibly means that NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith realizes that Kessler, when speaking in court, can be a tad abrasive.)

In my own experience, the side that gets the bulk of the questions is the side that is teetering on the brink of defeat.

Read the rest: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...to-soften-up-the-league-for-settlement-talks/

 

[WoodysGirl]

Greg_A_Bedard Greg A. Bedard
Hearing finish. Nelson said she will prob need "a couple weeks" to consider both sides fairly

Hearing finished. Nelson said she will need a couple weeks but urged both sides to use federal court to mediate

SBJLizMullen Liz Mullen
Story on NFL Lockout injunction hearing by @usatoday_NFL Today MLB scribe @BNightengale is covering it: http://usat.ly/gtCmHM

usatoday_nfl USA TODAY NFL team
Court is adjourned at NFL/NFLPA hearing in Minnesota

Before adjourning, Judge Nelson implored both sides to return to the bargaining table. She says she will try to make a ruling in two weeks

darrenrovell darren rovell
Judge Susan Nelson says she'll take a couple weeks to decide where she falls on NFL case.

 

[theogt]

PFT: Judge Nelson could be trying to soften up the league for settlement talks

Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2011, 4:10 PM EDT

Like many of you, we’ve been monitoring today’s developments in Minnesota federal court via Twitter.

By most accounts, Judge Susan Nelson peppered NFL counsel David Boies with questions, while asking far fewer of his counterpart, Jim Quinn.

(Curiously, the players opted to put Jeffrey Kessler on the sidelines. It possibly means that NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith realizes that Kessler, when speaking in court, can be a tad abrasive.)

In my own experience, the side that gets the bulk of the questions is the side that is teetering on the brink of defeat.

Read the rest: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...to-soften-up-the-league-for-settlement-talks/

This is cool stuff. I know most people hate the labor dispute, but for lawyers who are football fans, it's fascinating.

 

[DallasEast]

(Curiously, the players opted to put Jeffrey Kessler on the sidelines. It possibly means that NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith realizes that Kessler, when speaking in court, can be a tad abrasive.)

Mr. Smith would know.

 

[theogt]

Before adjourning, Judge Nelson implored both sides to return to the bargaining table. She says she will try to make a ruling in two weeks

How anti-climactic.

 

[DallasEast]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say there will be no football this year.

That's my prediction.

Greed will probably prevent it, but it's not totally out of the question either.

 

[WoodysGirl]

AlbertBreer Albert Breer
All done here. Judge Nelson says shell take case "under advisement", that it'll likely take her "a couple weeks" to rule. ..

... In the meantime, she advises parties to return to mediation, only this time to do it in federal court setting.

Greg_A_Bedard Greg A. Bedard
"This is a matter that should be resolved. A lot of folks are impacted."

adbrandt Andrew Brandt
So much for slight chance that Judge Nelson would "rule from the bench" (today). Says she'll take "a couple weeks" to rule.

judybattista Judy Battista by mortreport
Judge Nelson said she thought both sides at risk, why she urged them to start talking.

BobGlauber Bob Glauber by mortreport
Judge Nelson also urges both sides to talk to one another under federal mediation - supervised by her - before she renders decision. #nfl