Any Chance Another Team Pursues Canty?

[JohnnyHopkins]

I can't see it, but wanted to see if anyone else has heard anything.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Man, I hope not. I think he's just as big a must-keep as Barber...Maybe bigger.

He's the one I'd be trying to lock up long-term. He was really good last year, and in a system he'd never played before -- not even in college.

 

[Jaxonsdaddd]

I havent heard anything but It would not surprise me.

If I was a team drafting in the 20's that ran a 3-4 I would be interested. Its hard to find quality 3-4 DE's and hes young and still getting better

I know Miami is starting from scratch and will need 3-4 DE's. Wonder if Miami would trade up just a few spots from there second round pick, #32, to get in the first round and go after Canty

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

Man, I hope not. I think he's just as big a must-keep as Barber...Maybe bigger.

He's the one I'd be trying to lock up long-term. He was really good last year, and in a system he'd never played before -- not even in college.

if he leaves i will be mad. al groh plays a hybrid scheme i have seen him line up as a 3-4 end

 

[speedkilz88]

I havent heard anything but It would not surprise me.

If I was a team drafting in the 20's that ran a 3-4 I would be interested. Its hard to find quality 3-4 DE's and hes young and still getting better

I know Miami is starting from scratch and will need 3-4 DE's. Wonder if Miami would trade up just a few spots from there second round pick, #32, to get in the first round and go after Canty

I'm pretty sure teams have to use their own first. They certainly couldn't have two and choose which one to give up, it would have to be the first overall.

 

[fortdick]

I'm pretty sure teams have to use their own first. They certainly couldn't have two and choose which one to give up, it would have to be the first overall.

When you say a first round pick, does that mean any team's first round pick? The Giants first round pick won't be worth Canty, but Oakland's might be. Does the team place in the draft order have anything to do with tender offers?

 

[ayjackson]

Fortunately, a lot of the 3-4 teams are lousy and pick early - so they won't go after him. Miami, NYJ, maybe Cinci if they're switching to 3-4 might be interested in trading their early 2nds (+) for him. They'd be better off offering a lower pick for Spears though.

With all the teams trying to build a decent 3-4 Dline out there, I'd be surprised if Spears didn't get some interest.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Canty's a good player but he's not worth a first round pick, IMHO.

 

[cobra]

You mean other than Miami?

We all KNOW BP loves his players and tries hard to bring his players to his new teams. Canty is a MAJOR BP-guy. I would not be suprised at all to see BP go after Canty. I don't think he will do it at the cost his 1st round--#1 overall--pick. But I think he might look into a sign and trade deal with a 2nd rounder.

 

[sago1]

Your thinking of Canty as he played in 07 which is his first year in Phillips' 34. In Canty's 2nd year in this defensive scheme, his play should continue to improve since he's more familiar with his responsibilities and also Ratliff on other side should help more then Spears' play has to date.

 

[speedkilz88]

When you say a first round pick, does that mean any team's first round pick? The Giants first round pick won't be worth Canty, but Oakland's might be. Does the team place in the draft order have anything to do with tender offers?

The draft order wouldn't have anything to do with it, teams would only be able to use their own pick as compensation. Miami would have to use their top pick overall, Oakland their own, Seattle their own. They couldn't acquire someone else's late pick and use that instead unless the Cowboys agreed to it in a trade. If they don't have their own pick then they can't sign someone tendered player of that value.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

if he leaves i will be mad. al groh plays a hybrid scheme i have seen him line up as a 3-4 end

Yeah, I meant that in college, he played Groh's 2-gap 34 end... Which is exactly like Bill's. Last year was Canty's first in a system where he got to shoot gaps and make plays. And he did a darn good job of it.

I always thought Spears would be much better than Canty, but I was way wrong and am happy to admit it.

We're lucky Belicheat had that very low first rounder yanked, because I guarantee you he'd think long and hard about both Canty and Barber with that pick.

 

[superpunk]

Yeah, I meant that in college, he played Groh's 2-gap 34 end... Which is exactly like Bill's. Last year was Canty's first in a system where he got to shoot gaps and make plays. And he did a darn good job of it.

I always thought Spears would be much better than Canty, but I was way wrong and am happy to admit it.

We're lucky Belicheat that very low first rounder yanked, because I guarantee you he'd think long and hard about both Canty and Barber with that pick.

I wonder what the process is when you have multiple round picks and you sign a RFA?

 

[Redball Express]

I wonder what the process is when you have multiple round picks and you sign a RFA?

..if you have the pick to forfeit, it's your higheset pick in the round.

You can not make a deal with the league to force them to take your higher pick and award that to the team.

It's not going to happen, nobody is going to offer him a deal and give up their #1 pick, too.

Stop dreaming.

:starspin ReDBaLL ExPreSS:starspin

 

[superpunk]

..if you have the pick to forfeit, it's your higheset pick in the round.

You can not make a deal with the league to force them to take your higher pick and award that to the team.

It's not going to happen, nobody is going to oofer him a deal and give up their #1 pick.

Stop dreaming.

:starspin ReDBaLL ExPreSS:starspin

It's not a dream, I just wondered what the process was. Any team that would even entertain the thought of giving us a first for Canty, I wouldn't want their pick, because I don't think we'd get a 3-4 end as good as Canty at the spot we'd be picking, and I'd hate to go into a season with Spears and Hatcher and Ratliff playing DE and not much else.

For instance, if we were interested in some other team's tendered player, and they tendered him the first, which pick would we forfeit? Is it the highest without any question?

 

[Dodger]

I doubt someone makes him an offer that Dallas couldn't, or wouldn't, match.

 

[ethiostar]

Canty has been my 'pet' player since he got drafted. He is developing to become a stud DE, i really would hate to see him go.

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

the only way is if Bill gives us his so we can take Chris Long