Any Reason Why Offense Struggles more Against 3-4s
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I have read "expert" opinions from writers who opine that our OL cannot block 3-4 outside LB's well enough. While they can handle DL well, (Peppers,Osi, Tuck, Peterson, etc.) they struggle to handle big athletic LB's in the 3-4.
Our OL cannot handle stunts and blitzes very well for certain, so these "experts" just might be right.
Our OL cannot handle stunts and blitzes very well for certain, so these "experts" just might be right.
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coblue;3086408 said:
it's a nasty circle it works because he can't and or won't adjust to what is being thrown at him and because he doesn't it keeps working
if he used his "genius" that everyone claims he has he'd be more open to on the fly adjustments and making the things that are working against him not.
It's not hard to sit in the film room monday morning and go through the game and see the plays he picked and know why he picked them (he did it afterall) and make the mental notation to say ok this didn't work we shouldn't do it again or at the least as often etc etc
Really it seems as though he doesn't spend much time studying himself and his playcalling and just keeps assuming he's smarter than the guy across the field and going with the same shotgun plays over and over.
As to the original question I see it more as we have a big beefy strength O-Line getting beat by the generally faster OLB's in other teams 3-4 D you'll notice we have the same troubles anytime the other team has good fast outside rushers it's not really a 3-4 only problem.
I'd really love to know the reason why if they're playing against a good 3-4 in practice every week that it would be a struggle but as I mentioned above my best guess (as I'm not on the practice field or any of that) that it's just the fact that we have big bulldozers on the front line that excel and pushing the line forward but lack in lateral ability.
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With 3-4 looks a defensive coordinator can disguise his blitzes, run support, etc. They can more easily line up showing one look and then morphing to execute another. That's wht Garrett gets in trouble with his "take what the defense gives us" mentality. A 3-4 scheme has the opportunity to trick him better into the wrong formation and play call. And the more easily Garrett gets baited/outcoached, the worse the offense plays. So at the end of the day, the root of the problem is not a 3-4 opposition; it's an inferior offensive coordiantor that gets more outcoached against a 3-4 team.
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Rampage;3086461 said:
They do that against every team, but I see what you're saying.
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In the 90's we destroyed 3-4 D's. Our O-line were licking their chop's to run the ball.
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Monster Heel;3086470 said:
Not so, a few weeks ago we had been lining up earlier and Romo was calling out all the protection with plenty of time to spare before we went, seems we relapsed back to that old habit of snapping the ball on 1 again.
As far as the 3-4, I remember a few years ago there was talk that Peyton Manning had trouble with the 3-4 as well, that was when we beat them when they were previously undefeated.
I'd say some of the blame has to be on Romo as well as Garrett and the other guys, it seemed like a lot of times Romo would look up and everyone was covered in addition to having pressure. I found it amazing we were having so much trouble beating the blitz, and not for the first time this season either.
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Our offensive line is built to win straight up fights. Four man lines tend to lean towards man on man blocking assignments. We don't have an especially finesse or mobile group. Practically every team we face talks about how physically brutal our offensive line is. Rarely will anyone marvel at how well they move or adjust.canters;3086416 said:
A 3-4 defense lends itself more to schematics and is far more cerebral than your run of the mill 4-3 team. But even twists and stunts out of a four man line tend to give us fits with our line's skill set. Make those a 3 man line with some quicker LBers with even DBs sprinkled in, it becomes an issue. If you look at the sacks we've given up this year, quite a few have been to the back six-seven. Hawthorne from Seattle picked up a few, Hali from KC did fairly well, we saw Matthews, Woodson and Collins get theirs Sunday. The games where Romo has been protected well were cases where the blitzes weren't that exotic and teams played the physical matchups our line prefers and are built for.
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Alexander;3086498 said:
Several teams and commentators have commenting on how nimble our guards are for their size. Especially Kosier.
I think the issue really isn't anything more than the fact that we've happened to play some good defenses that were 3-4s.
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Idgit;3086487 said:
Bingo
This Offense faces a 3-4 everytime they practice. And I think I would hold Ware and Spence up against almost any LB's in the game.
They are play good 3-4 defenses and coming up short in those games on offense.
Dallas struggles with teams period. Some more then others.
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Idgit;3086620 said:
Yeah, but two of those games were there man. Oh wow how the Ravens and Stealers game stung last year.
The Ravens win was on the D.
Offense sputtered away a great effort in Pissburgh, just to come up short.
I think this team is on the verge of getting the December monkey off of their backs.