Anyone else happy they didn't enforce hip-drop tackle as penalty?

[RoboQB]

Pretty sure the hip drop tackle is illegal in Rugby which is largely considered
a much more tough-man sport than football.
It is not a "spontaneous" act despite claims that it is.

 

[Typhus]

Who said 15-20 serious concussions for a quarterback is too many?

Wealth sometimes comes with a price tag.

 

[CCBoy]

Wealth sometimes comes with a price tag.

Football isn't validated by money for permanent injury, demeaning life afterward, or a resulting death.

This is still just a sport, for those payments, sport be damned. Protect the person, even in full out war.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Pretty sure the hip drop tackle is illegal in Rugby which is largely considered
a much more tough-man sport than football.
It is not a "spontaneous" act despite claims that it is.

Pure myth. Pads collisions are far more brutal and violent than non pad contact the vast majority of the time. I've done pads football, no pads full tackle, boxing and judo. By far the most violent another human being has been to me was while in tackle football pads. With no pads the tackler has more concern for their own injury. Pads makes players more fearless and thus they hit you with reckless abandon much of the time.

 

[nightrain]

I think the best defense against that form tackle is to go down before the dude and breaks your legs.

 

[Ranching]

I for one am glad, they chose not to do it. I cant imagine seeing 60 flags a game. Since its such ambiguous form of tackling.

Dont think the defensive player plans it out. Is happens spontaneously, in milliseconds. Your job is to bring defender down. Long
as you dont involve the facemask.

I understand the tackle on Pollard was hip-drop tackle. I was so bummed and angry about it. Took Dallas momentum out of the game.
Nonetheless, I saw SF tackler just doing what he could to bring TP down. TP fighting further might of worsen the situation leading to hip tackle. Not sure, though.

You guys feel the same?

Let them play!

 

[RoboQB]

Pure myth. Pads collisions are far more brutal and violent than non pad contact the vast majority of the time. I've done pads football, no pads full tackle, boxing and judo. By far the most violent another human being has been to me was while in tackle football pads. With no pads the tackler has more concern for their own injury. Pads makes players more fearless and thus they hit you with reckless abandon much of the time.

Okay, but I never mentioned brutality or even violence.
The topic is the tackling style.
It is outlawed in Rugby. It could easily be outlawed in football.
I think it should. Just my opinion.

 

[erod]

It shouldn't be a penalty.

 

[acr731]

It shouldn't be a penalty.

What if they can prove it was intentional and the tackler was trying injure? No one will ever admit it, but I would bet every cent I have that it happens every week. No one will convince me that Pollard wasn't intentionally injured.

 

[Praxit]

What if they can prove it was intentional and the tackler was trying injure? No one will ever admit it, but I would bet every cent I have that it happens every week. No one will convince me that Pollard wasn't intentionally injured.

..it would probably be more circumstantial if followed. But I agree to what your saying. SF lowered their kilts on TP, knowing he was gashing them late in game.

One word, *******s.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

To the point you can affect someone's livelihood? I honestly thought they were gonna do Pollard like the Seahawks did Hurns. When we were watching it live I kept telling my friends those tackles looked dirty on Pollard.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

I for one am glad, they chose not to do it. I cant imagine seeing 60 flags a game. Since its such ambiguous form of tackling.

Dont think the defensive player plans it out. Is happens spontaneously, in milliseconds. Your job is to bring defender down. Long
as you dont involve the facemask.

I understand the tackle on Pollard was hip-drop tackle. I was so bummed and angry about it. Took Dallas momentum out of the game.
Nonetheless, I saw SF tackler just doing what he could to bring TP down. TP fighting further might of worsen the situation leading to hip tackle. Not sure, though.

You guys feel the same?

That is a dangerous type of tackle, for the one who gets tackled....because more times than not the defender falls on the back of the runners leg/ankle....similar to the horse collar but a little tougher to enforce. Pretty soon you outlaw almost all tackles and might as well make it flag football.

 

[Praxit]

To the point you can affect someone's livelihood? I honestly thought they were gonna do Pollard like the Seahawks did Hurns. When we were watching it live I kept telling my friends those tackles looked dirty on Pollard.

..Hurns tackle was dirty as &^%$. Still remember that.

 

[acr731]

The NFL will eventually start cracking down on this tackle, but it won't happen until the star players start becoming victims and start missing a lot of time. Dak lost a season to a hip-drop tackle, but it happened to Dallas and no one cared. Do you think the NFL would have tolerated that happening to Brady? Not a chance. The tackled ruined Dallas' last playoff game, but again, it happened to Dallas and no one cared.

I think, and this is just my opinion, that defenders who use this technique are using it with the intent to injure. Others can have their opinions, but this is mine.

I just wonder how much longer the NFL is going to tolerate the players getting their legs and ankles shattered by a tackle that has only one intent.

 

[Hardline]

 

[erod]

What if they can prove it was intentional and the tackler was trying injure? No one will ever admit it, but I would bet every cent I have that it happens every week. No one will convince me that Pollard wasn't intentionally injured.

Yeah, that's about 90 percent of all tackles. Defensive players are out for blood. That's how they get to this level. That's the game.

 

[CowboyFrog]

You dont have to have a rule the NFLPA can actually police players that seem to always "Be in a position to only" hip drop tackle. Many things can be fixed by the players simply having professional understanding when intent to injure is involved. Take it out of the leagues hands and let the players police this from the NFLPA..

 

[CouchCoach]

Pure myth. Pads collisions are far more brutal and violent than non pad contact the vast majority of the time. I've done pads football, no pads full tackle, boxing and judo. By far the most violent another human being has been to me was while in tackle football pads. With no pads the tackler has more concern for their own injury. Pads makes players more fearless and thus they hit you with reckless abandon much of the time.

This was the basis for Tony Dungy's solution for concussions, softer helmets and no face masks. The helmet is a weapon.

 

[CouchCoach]

I think we lose sight of the speed of the game and just how fast these players have to react. None ever intends to grab the face mask but it happens several times in every game.

They were supposed to stop RB's from using their helmets as weapons and they did not. When a big RB is coming at you with knees churning and up and lowering his helmet, how are you going to tackle him? He's a charging bull.

Tackling from the side or back is a lot healthier than taking on a RB up to full speed. And if they go low in front, they get accused of being a dirty player and trying to take his knees out.

 

[Motorola]

Any tackle is a potential injury. Heck, guys can get injured without any contact at all. There will never be a 100% safe sport. Even flag football will have serious injuries from time to time. I forget that Jags player from a couple of decades back that blew out both knees in a touch football game.

It was a Patriots RB - rookie Robert Edwards.
He wasn't a Pro Bowl selection; but his 1998 season was so good the league invited him to Hawaii to participate in a "Rookie Beach Bowl" during the week before the 1999 Pro Bowl.
(Other rookies selected to participate were Peyton Manning and Charles Woodson.)
The injuries Edwards sustained were all to his left knee:
Torn ACL, MCL, PCL, along with a partially torn LCL tendon.
There was servere nerve damage, plus a sliced artery.
There was a possibility Edwards' left leg would have to be amputated if the artery surgery was not successful.