Anyone else upset with the new era of reporting

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This new era of angry, uptight, ex-football players who think they know it all is getting to be very frustrating as a fan. In addition, the TMZ wannabe reporters like Ed Werder are also just as bad. In the past few seasons this aspect has increased by leaps and bounds.

Im a guy who was a kid in the golden era of football, for at least me it was and if not by many, the late 80's to early 90's. Emmitt, Rice, Irvin, Aikman, Young, Montana, Elway, MArino, DGreen, Rison, Moon, BSanders, Kelly, TThomas etc etc. You had Pat Summerall with John Madden. These guys just called the game and never ripped into a player unless they gave no effort. Those guys on most weeks were usually calling the one o'clock games. Then, being on the east coast, the 4 o'clock games were generally either a Bronco,Raider or Charger game. Most of the time you had Dick Enberg calling those games with Merlin Olsen, Marv Albert, Don Cricqui or some old guy I forget his name. Then you had on MNF Al, Frank and Dan who worked ok as a team and at the time many didnt like them. After hearing Jaws, Tirico and Kornheisier they dont seem as bad. Thats what I remember from that era. Lets fast forward to what Im remembering about this era.

All of those guys a decade or so ago were laid back guys. They called the game and were very professional. Buck, Simms and others are fast to give it to a player but what Im starting to remember the most this is the era of the angry ex player. This is what makes me mad the most. Cris Carter for example, when is this guy not yelling or screaming about something. He sounds like a defense attorney instead of an anaylsis. Keyshawns too good to ever give another player any accolades because hes conceited and still thinks he can walk in the league and be productive. Trent Dilfer talks like hes Dan Marino. Heres a memo for you Trent, you were first, a bust as a draft pick, you were the only player that could of prevented the Ravens from winning the Superbowl the year they did, and I beileve he got benched for Ken Dorsey in SF. Dont talk as if you know something. Now you got Tim Hasseleback. I laugh at him as he never made it over a 3rd stringer and now he talks like he was Elway. Bettis, Barber, Olberman, Patrick doing NFL primetime over Berman and Jackson. What a joke. More angry, know it all's, just out of the league. I know Berman and Jackson are not Cowboy fans but in the long run I do beileve theyre pretty fair. These players need to take notes from Marshall Faulk and Terrell Davis.

Last, you have the inside reporters of Werder, Glazer, Schefter etc who are all in competetion with each other for the top story. They turned the NFL into a tabloid or TMZ. They just throw stuff out there that in old days were no,no's for reporters. I just want to tell these guys to get off their high horse. Theyre nobodys, who think and are trying to be somebodies. If a player is being traded by all means report it but dont come out and for example say "I have conflicting reports this player got into an arguement with his wife last night. She was on his back to wash the car but the player angerily told her No. He has had anger issues in the past and therapy could be an option." I know that was a joke but you know what I mean when these reports just start stuff for no reason. Ill give John Clayton credit. He might be the only one who hasnt bought into this era.

In closing, anyone agree with me? I didnt even get to mention Sapp. Hes awful too. The one team that gets hurt the most out of all this is us cowboy fans. We have the most fans and because of that they target us to get their name out their. opinions
 

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I agree sports reporting (along with everything else) these days is all about the negative. Its been said in this forum ESPN is taking on a TMZ format. (so true)

My advice to you, never watch ESPN. I don't. NFL Network is much better. But, yes, Warren Sapp is terrible.
 

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playmakers;2618414 said:
This new era of angry, uptight, ex-football players who think they know it all is getting to be very frustrating as a fan. In addition, the TMZ wannabe reporters like Ed Werder are also just as bad. In the past few seasons this aspect has increased by leaps and bounds.

Im a guy who was a kid in the golden era of football, for at least me it was and if not by many, the late 80's to early 90's.

first time Ive ever heard those years called the golden era of football
 

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fiveandcounting;2618451 said:
first time Ive ever heard those years called the golden era of football

when obviously the Golden Era was the 60s and 70s

two announcers
not much in the studio
almost no pregame
no commercials
 

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They have shifted from reporting a breaking story to creating one and being judge and jury on it. Facts be damed..... let's get a rating point.
 

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There are a lot of media types who want to be part of the story rather than report on the story.

There are also a lot of very lazy journalists who will just hit the buzz words about the Cowboys to get cheap ratings.
 

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ESPN has no competition. Sports journalism isn't even journalism, it's getting the most people to watch your show.
The higher the rating, the more gatorade, nike, etc.. want to stick there commercial on it.
Also considering the I.Q of somebody watching ESPN probably isn't as high as somebody reading the New York Times or Time Magazine or The Wall Street Journal, most people don't have the thinking skills to realize what they're watching is GARBAGE.
Do you think the New York Times is going to publish an article about the CEO of Sprint being lazy and possibly having an affair because of an un-named inside source within sprint? Not unless they want a million dollar law suit shoved up there ***. It's called being held to a standard.
ESPN and sports journalism usually isn't held to any standard because bottomline as long as they get the score right, they can claim anything else they want.. to get people to read it.

MONEY, people. They could care less about actual sports writing, they want to make money. Watching ESPN is less news and more like going to the movies on a friday night.
 

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What I wouldnt mind watching is one of the NFL franchises slapping a reporter like Ed Werder with a hefty law suit for something like slander or perjury the next time he spins a story that tarnishes somebody's name.
 

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Things were always better when we were younger, that is typically how humans view things.

Unfortunately, alot of times this perception is exactly that, perception.

The media is not any worse than it was a decade or two ago, there is just alot more media now and that ultimately brings in more scrutiny. Heck, back in the "good old days" alot of the media was buddy buddy with players and wouldn't report certain things to the public.

Furthermore, Jerry Jones, the Owner and General Manager of the Dallas Cowboys not only craves media attention, he seeks it out. In fact, in one of his interviews this season he proclaimed that we "like" the spotlight.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2618473 said:
The media is not any worse than it was a decade or two ago, there is just alot more media now and that ultimately brings in more scrutiny. Heck, back in the "good old days" alot of the media was buddy buddy with players and wouldn't report certain things to the public.

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This sounds like a contradiction to me.... I seem to remember more "feel good" stories and admiration of players back in the day. I agree that there is more media (too much) today. Nowadays a player can't trust anyone, anywhere at anytime. Cameras phones and the interent have made the smart players stand-offish and have given dumb players a platform to show their stupidity.
 

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It has to do with the ex-players themselves. There are really some unintelligent people in those roles.

But years ago, there were fewer opportunities. You had the three major networks and that was it. The advent of ESPN, the NFL Network and so on has more opportunities for ex-athletes and unfortunately a larger stage for the parade of clownish individuals who use bad grammar.

It seemed that years ago, the brighter ex-players were the ones who secured prominent positions with the media. Personalities like Irv Cross, Merlin Olson, and Len Dawson were all very good there were also annoying imbeciles like Joe Namath, Paul Hourning and Joe Theismann. It just did not seem to be anything near the overwhelming wide of lowbrows that we see today.

The modern talking heads are just awful. You have poor Emmitt Smith who butchers the English language. Incredible buffoons like Warren Sapp, Cris Carter and Marshall Faulk really make it hard to watch sometimes. There are a few bright ones like Aikman, Collinsworth, Rod Woodson and Phil Simms. But they often get drowned out by crude oafs like Sapp.
 

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How is Ed Werder a wannabe reporter, he has over 20 years as a writer/reporter.

and yes, the players like alexander said the carters, sanders and sapps are a joke.

the networks pay them to be morons and they are happy to oblige.
 

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theebs;2618513 said:
and yes, the players like alexander said the carters, sanders and sapps are a joke.

I cannot believe I left off Deion Sanders.

He is simply the most offensive of them all. I loathe him.
 

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There isn't as much great sports writing as there used to be.

Columnists like the late Jim Murray painted pictures with their words and made us laugh. The in-depth feature stories are more rare these days. Game stories aren't as detailed.

Sports fans now receive their information in quick bursts of hype, misinformation and shock in the form of blogs or snippets on ESPN.

There are too many lazy, unskilled people delivering the information these days. It's that simple.
 

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playmakers;2618414 said:
They turned the NFL into a tabloid or TMZ.


Pandering to the lowest common denominator is the quickest way to reach the most people. If self promotion and satisfying your personal ego is priority #1 then you reach out to the lowest common denominator.

Give the people what they want is marketing 101.

The last time I watched ESPN was the day Umenyiora was a "guest" on the set and Berman essentially promised him a regular spot when he retires.

Style over substance rules today.
 

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Nothing has changed since journalism became a profession. The sensational sells. That's why the horrific leads and the cute and cuddly are buried inside the paper.
 

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Longboysfan;2618458 said:
They have shifted from reporting a breaking story to creating one and being judge and jury on it. Facts be damed..... let's get a rating point.

I don't think that's changed. There's just an internet now where they can be fact-checked.
 

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theebs;2618513 said:
How is Ed Werder a wannabe reporter, he has over 20 years as a writer/reporter.

The OP said 'TMZ wannabe reporter.' And yes, Mr. Blue Suit is a TMZ wannabe.

His very article of reporting the 'Owens jealousy of Romo and Witten's relationship' from ONE source who 'regularly speaks to Owens' teammates' is a dead on fit of the way papparazzi reporters do their work.

The problem with today's reporting is that it's focused on soundbytes and being the first to report a story while facts and in depth detail go to the wayside. Then if the story is false, the reporter is thought of as 'doing his job' because their source was wrong. So there's no incentive for a reporter to check out a source and their info.



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Overall, broadcast and print (which now includes the internet) journalism has regressed since the very early 80's, moving along the same timeline as the major expansion of cable television access. While there are still some very respectable journalists in the profession, they are no longer the norm, but are instead the exception.

Good, solid investigative reporting has taken a big hit during the past couple of decades. Once upon a time, typewriters and landline phones were tools used in great investigative reporting which conveyed the intricate details of Watergate to the general public. Fast forwarding ahead 25 years demonstrated that computers and cellphones were less efficient in getting solid in-depth information to the people about Whitewater than the journalistic tools of a quarter century before. Why? Who knows, but you certainly can't blame technology.

We (the forum) concentrate on the quality of sports journalism more because we pay attention to it more, but standards have gone down across the industry. It may be due to having TOO much verified or unverified information available in this modern age with very little time to always deliver it to the people in a proper and correct fashion. The sad part is knowing that there is no going back to saner practices of relaying news to the people. We just have to sift through the muck for what's both right and wrong, something which the majority of journalists used to do very well on the public's behalf.
 
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